Talking Footy

King-Eliagh wrote:

Ah yeah, whatever. There's more than 1 aboriginal and probably more of other descents in the shot. As I said geelongs pic would not offend a white supremcist group.

Again the AFL shot does not adequately reflect the diversity of backgrounds in Aus. It reflects the anglo dominated aussie population of the 1930's:

King-Eliagh wrote:

Ah yeah, whatever. There's more than 1 aboriginal and probably more of other descents in the shot. As I said geelongs pic would not offend a white supremcist group.

Again the AFL shot does not adequately reflect the diversity of backgrounds in Aus.:

One in three players in the NRL today are of Maori or Pacific descent.
By 2012, it is predicted Pacific island players will comprise 50% of the total number of NRL players.
The situation is comparable to what happened in the United States in the 1970s where black Americans began to outnumber white players in the professional NBA Basketball and NFL Gridiron competitions.
The rise in numbers in Australia is being helped by increased migration there by island families, via New Zealand or direct from the Pacific.
**** the pantheon of NRL stars today are 2009 Dally M Player of the Year, Jarryd Hayne (Fijian) of the Parramatta Eels, Newcastle Knights flyer Akuila Uate (Fijian) who was this year's top try scorer in the NRL, West Tigers captain Benji Marshall (Maori), Eels' crowd favourite, Fuifui Moimoi (Tongan), Tigers forward Dean Halatau (Niuean), strapping Panthers forward Frank Pritchard (Samoan), Souths Rabbitohs captain Roy Asotasi (Samoan) and giant Warriors wing Manu Vatuvei (Tongan).
There are many more.
Fifteen years ago, there were on average three Pacific islands players per club in the NRL. That figure is now around seven. There were 110 players of Maori and Pacific descent playing for NRL clubs in 2009. Polynesian players now represent almost 30 per cent of the NRL total roster. And in the NRL feeder competition, the Toyota Cup (under 20) over 50% of the players are of Maori or Pacific descent.
"The coaches are going for the bigger, stronger Polynesian players, rather than the quicker, more agile players," said Steve Hall, a development officer with the New South Wales RL for the past 20 years.

TLPG wrote:

Name all 51 countries that the NRL draws from, KE!

King-Eliagh wrote:

And as for your posts Xman? Half decent points there but you fail to acknowledge RL also has many players from ethnic backgrounds other than polynesian or 'aussie'.

In sum all you've really done is skew my argument to suit your needs. I've clearly argues that the NRL competition provides a 'better' representation of "diversity" in i.e "multicultural" Australia than the AFL comp. I find it amusing how you conveniently leave this out. The answer is clear as day, yes, the NRL is a better representation of ethnic diversity and because of this the potential for racism to bubble up is inevitably less.

Xman its ok if you know this to be true, just agree. There's no need to skew my argument here, cause 1) I'm not changing my argument and 2) I'm dead right.

King-Eliagh wrote:

I'd argue if you took islanders and anglos the NRL would have significantly more representation of italian, greek and middle eastern players than the AFL. Significantly more. Then you add the islanders in and, shazam, you've got multicultural nation, a code which represents multicultural diversity and harmony in Australia much better than the AFL. Thems the facts Xman.

Game, set and match to the NRL.

King-Eliagh wrote:

I watch and know much about both codes.

You watch and only know much about one.

Therefore I know and gots da knowledge.

And you dont Xman.

Simple really, just let go and trust me. I'm telling the truth...the bleeding obvious in fact.

Chow.

AFL/VFL Players With A Multicultural Background
Albania: Adam Yze

Austria/Ukraine: Alex Jesaulenko

Brazil/Congo: Heritier O'BrienBarbados Joshua Gibson (Barbadian father)

Canada: Mike Pyke

Chile: Jose Romero, Daniel Segovia

China: George Tansing, Wally Koochew (Carlton), Les Kew Ming (North Melbourne)

Croatia: Adrian Barich, Alan Didak, Marc Dragicevic, Jon Dorotich ,Damien Gaspar, Darren Gaspar, Travis Gaspar, Brent Grgic, Ilija Grgic, Allen Jakovich, Glen Jakovich, Stephen Jurica, Ivan Maric, Matthew Pavlich, Val Perovic, Steven Salopek, Craig Starcevich, Peter Sumich, Jacob Surjan, Scott Watters

Cyprus: Andrew and James Demetriou

England: Clive Waterhouse, Brad Moran

Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia: Nick Malceski, Peter Berbakov, Mark Nicoski, John Gastev, Peter Daicos, John Rombotis, Jason Trianides

Fiji: David Rodan, Setanta Ãhailpã¬n (Fijian mother), Alipate Carlile, Nick Naitanui

Germany: Carl Ditterich, Ray Gabelich, Fraser Gehrig, Justin Koschitzke, Stewart Loewe, David Mensch, David Neitz, Nick Riewoldt, Andrew Schauble, Adam Schneider, Jacob Schuback, David Schwarz, Wayne Schwass, Jason Snell, Carl Steinfort, Tyson Stenglein, Michael Voss, Brett Voss, Murray Weidemann

Greece: Ang Christou, James Condos, Josh Francou, Paul Koulouriotis, Anthony Koutoufides, Angelo Lekkas, Zeno Tzatsaris, Spiro & Tony Malakelis, Athas Hrysoulakis, Con Gorozidis, Peter Kanis, Spiro Kourkoumelis, Andrew Lukimitis, Steve Malaxos, Daniel Metropolis, Albert, Alby, Charlie Pannam & Vasil Varlamos

India: Balraj Singh, Jade Cleary, Daniel Kerr (Indian Father), Liam Kelly (Indian Father) 

Ireland: Dermott Brereton, Sean Denham, Tadhg Kennelly, Dermott McNicholl, Rick Olarenshaw, Brian Stynes, Jim Stynes, Setanta Ãhailpã¬n (Irish father, Fijian mother), Sean Wight, Colm Begley

Italy: Steven Alessio, Ron Barassi Sr, Ron Barassi Jr, Scott Camporeale, Matthew Capuano, Blake Caracella, Andrew Carrazzo, Vin Catoggio, Nick Dal Santo, Danny Delre, Brett Deledio, Andrew Dimattina, Paul Dimattina, Robert Dipierdomenico, Brendan Fevola, Anthony Franchina, Daniel Giansiracusa, Brent Guerra, Anthony Koutoufides (Italian mother, Greek father), Tony Liberatore, Paul Licuria (Italian father, Spanish mother), Phil Manassa, Al Martello, Peter Matera (Italian father, Aboriginal mother), Phillip Matera (Italian father, Aboriginal mother), Wally Matera (Italian father, Aboriginal mother), Mark Mercuri, Mark Merenda, Joe Misiti, Leigh Montagna, Romano Negri, Mark Ricciuto, Guy Rigoni, Michael Rischitelli, Anthony Rocca, Saverio Rocca, Sergio Silvagni, Stephen Silvagni, Andrew Leoncelli

Japan: Sean Yoshiura

Latvia: Adam Ramanauskas (Palestinian Grandfather)

Lebanon: Bachar Houli, Milham Hanna

Netherlands: Paul Van Der Haar, Richard Vandenberg

New Zealand: Trent Croad, Wayne Schwass, Donald Dickie and Daniel Mcalister

Papua New Guinea: Mal Michael, James Gwilt (Papua New Guinean mother)

Poland: Brian Sierakowski, David Sierakowski, David Wojcinski

Samoa: Aaron Edwards, Thomas Caldow

Scotland: Heath Scotland, Neil Roberts

Singapore: Paul Medhurst

South Africa: Damian Cupido, Ian Muller

South Korea: Peter Bell

Spain: Paul Licuria (Italian father, Spanish mother)

Sudan: Majak Daw

Switzerland: Henri Jennert
Thailand: Sudjai Cook (Adelaide Crows)

Turkey: Sedat Sir

Ukraine: Alex Jesaulenko, Steven Kolyniuk, Steven Kretiuk, Shane Woewodin

USA: Dwayne Armstrong, Don Pyke (West Coast Eagles), Sandford Wheeler, Shae McNamara

Wales: John Mccarthy (North Melbourne/Fitzroy)

Zimbabwe: Stephen Lawrence (Hawthorn)

King-Eliagh wrote:

TLPG wrote:

Name all 51 countries that the NRL draws from, KE!

Stop being silly TLPG. This would take too long and I'm too lazy to bother. If we go by your definition of representation there'd be more than 100 countries represented in the NRL

pussycat wrote:

Why is there a list stateing players cultural backgrounds? Is this for segregational purposes


Fair dinkum though, Even I must admit this whole AFL racism thing is absurd... totally ridiculous. The AFL does'nt care what a players skin colour is.To suggest otrerwise is just plain WRONG!























Just As Long As One Of there parents Is White