International AFL vs International RL

[TLPG]

I don't make things up. You do, and I've exposed you for who you are. Live with it.

[eelofwest]

Oh dear. TLPG there's a sense of community in every sports club you dimwit. I've played union and RL and in both there was a strong sense of community. But in any case we're talking here about which code has a greater presence internationally you silly peanut. And you're nattering on about sense of community.

This one's well and truly over and like parra said, it was over before it began. But what a funny thread indeed. 'Community'!

This thread actually got me started on these forums, its a once in a lifetime thread =D> . The funniest classic thread ever , i troll forums looking for others like it and have not found one to my despair .
One day i hope to set my eyes upon another thread like this one. :D

[King-Eliagh]

Yes you're right eels this thread is a bloody hoot. The way parra belted them to billio with overwhelming evidence, the hilarious photos...and all the while a few dingbat AFL fans desperately trying to save face, to twist the story to try and make out that marngrook is actually 'big' o/s. It was like they were trying to convince us the earth is flat and that the lochness monster resides in sydney harbour. And now we have one douchebag trying to say its all about 'sense of community' and that noone but him would know about that! Absolutely hilarious, thankyou AFL fans for giving us the laughs.

[piesman2011]

AFL is not big overseas, however we do have quite a few people doing auskick in south Africa, PNG and NZ. It is not to hard to get 20000 participants doing Auskick for example. What this 20K figure represents is 20000 people doing a 6 week auskick course. In the end it doesn't really mean that much. There are a few AR football leagues in south Africa but most of the numbers generated from overseas participation is in essence auskick clinics. The numbers are real the idea that there are 60000 + people playing AR for a season with 20+ games in it is not.

[King-Eliagh]

I would concur with this pies, although im not too privy as to what is going on in SA. I know what goes on in Europe in regards to marngrook and that's pretty little. We shouldnt lie about it and make stuff up i think. Its better to tell the truth and be real about what's working well and what isnt. Although i gotta say, watching those who lie through their teeth or are completely deluded about the standing of their favourite sport is kinda funny.

I still believe NZ would prob be the best option for growth internationally for marngrook. Its close and they could easily be included in the national comp eventually like in RL. BUT. I still believe they wont take it up simply because its commonly called Aussie Rules. Kiwis just wont buy into a code that is called that, simple as that. And I believe neither will many other countries take to the game, above an expat driven novelty amateur level, while it is called aussie rules either. Its just not kocher.

[piesman2011]

Guess we ned a name change. Hows Australasian footy or Southern footy sound. Yeah I understand what you are saying about the name. For me if the game itself is good enough then people will play and watch it, even then I believe that codes like soccer are so big it will be hard to get a footprint any where off Australian soil.

[King-Eliagh]

I like marngrook but australasian or southern footy would increase buy in from our neighbours in the southern hemisphere. problem is people dont like change and even it would take a long time for folk here to get used to the name change, a real pickle this one. But in the long term i think a positive thing to change the name. soccer is big in many countries so tough for any other code to break in but there is opportunity if it is done properly.

[eelofwest]

I would concur with this pies, although im not too privy as to what is going on in SA. I know what goes on in Europe in regards to marngrook and that's pretty little. We shouldnt lie about it and make stuff up i think. Its better to tell the truth and be real about what's working well and what isnt. Although i gotta say, watching those who lie through their teeth or are completely deluded about the standing of their favourite sport is kinda funny.

I still believe NZ would prob be the best option for growth internationally for marngrook. Its close and they could easily be included in the national comp eventually like in RL. BUT. I still believe they wont take it up simply because its commonly called Aussie Rules. Kiwis just wont buy into a code that is called that, simple as that. And I believe neither will many other countries take to the game, above an expat driven novelty amateur level, while it is called aussie rules either. Its just not kocher.

I gotta say Pies is the only sane AFL fan on this site who puts the facts on the table and does not let his passion for the game he loves blind him to no end.
Everybody knows AFL is non existent at or close to a Pro level anywhere in the World and to try and prove otherwise with dodgy arguments is just insane.
For a good example of what i am talking about just read some of these OS threads to see who the insane ones are, not hard to spot out.
Coslettuce is sitting on the Iron throne of insanity, and Xman is is hand..

[piesman2011]

I would concur with this pies, although im not too privy as to what is going on in SA. I know what goes on in Europe in regards to marngrook and that's pretty little. We shouldnt lie about it and make stuff up i think. Its better to tell the truth and be real about what's working well and what isnt. Although i gotta say, watching those who lie through their teeth or are completely deluded about the standing of their favourite sport is kinda funny.

I still believe NZ would prob be the best option for growth internationally for marngrook. Its close and they could easily be included in the national comp eventually like in RL. BUT. I still believe they wont take it up simply because its commonly called Aussie Rules. Kiwis just wont buy into a code that is called that, simple as that. And I believe neither will many other countries take to the game, above an expat driven novelty amateur level, while it is called aussie rules either. Its just not kocher.

I gotta say Pies is the only sane AFL fan on this site who puts the facts on the table and does not let his passion for the game he loves blind him to no end.
Everybody knows AFL is non existent at or close to a Pro level anywhere in the World and to try and prove otherwise with dodgy arguments is just insane.
For a good example of what i am talking about just read some of these OS threads to see who the insane ones are, not hard to spot out.
Coslettuce is sitting on the Iron throne of insanity, and Xman is is hand.. :lol:

I love game of thrones. Good book and good TV series.

[TLPG]

Guess we ned a name change. Hows Australasian footy or Southern footy sound. Yeah I understand what you are saying about the name. For me if the game itself is good enough then people will play and watch it, even then I believe that codes like soccer are so big it will be hard to get a footprint any where off Australian soil.

We already have a small footprint in many countries, Pie. More countries than thugby can claim that's for sure. Yeah, thugby does have more countries playing the game at a semi pro level - that's true. But beyond that they drop off very badly.

As far as soccer goes - certainly in Europe it will be hard to shift off number one. After all, the German soccer comp averages higher crowds than the AFL does, and the EPL is only just behind the AFL as well. There's a lot of money as a result and shifting that is going to be the hardest. It can be done though - it just needs strong promotion as a strong alternative. Numbers are climbing, as the International Cup is a testament to.

[eelofwest]

Guess we ned a name change. Hows Australasian footy or Southern footy sound. Yeah I understand what you are saying about the name. For me if the game itself is good enough then people will play and watch it, even then I believe that codes like soccer are so big it will be hard to get a footprint any where off Australian soil.

We already have a small footprint in many countries, Pie. More countries than thugby can claim that's for sure. Yeah, thugby does have more countries playing the game at a semi pro level - that's true. But beyond that they drop off very badly.

As far as soccer goes - certainly in Europe it will be hard to shift off number one. After all, the German soccer comp averages higher crowds than the AFL does, and the EPL is only just behind the AFL as well. There's a lot of money as a result and shifting that is going to be the hardest. It can be done though - it just needs strong promotion as a strong alternative. Numbers are climbing, as the International Cup is a testament to.

Oh here we go again the looney is back. :D England super league semi pro? New Zealand world cup champions and former 4 nations champions semi Pro the Auckland Warriors finalists 2011 semi Pro? Mate spare yourself the embarrassment you have no idea what your talking about. And as for this international cup you talk about, mate all those countries that play in it are below amateur level. Its now clear why Aus don't compete in it, there will be scores of 200 - 20 if they did.

RLIF successfully gains recognition from Commonwealth Games Federation
BY RYAN NORMAN – MAY 10, 2011
POSTED IN: NEWS/RESULTS

The Rugby League International Federation has successfully gained support from the Commonwealth Games Federation to possibly be included in future Commonwealth Games. This announcement comes after the Commonwealth Games Federation’s meeting in Kuala Lumpar, the Malaysian capital.

Whilst Rugby League is not guaranteed to be in future Commonwealth Games this is an important first step for the Rugby League International Federation. Rugby League is now a “Category Three” sport, which means the Commonwealth Games Federation now recognises Rugby League as a sport working towards future inclusion in the Commonwealth games. Other “Category Three” sports include Cricket, European Handball, Volleyball, Water Polo, Golf and Fencing.

The Rugby League International Federation’s case was presented by Rugby Football League director of participation, David Gent, who, in the past, had successfully presented the International Canoe Federation’s case for addition to the list of optional sports at the Commonwealth Games.

It is believed that the Rugby League International Federation is keen to promote the shortened form of the game, Rugby League Nine’s, as the form played in the Commonwealth Games. If Rugby League is accepted in the Commonwealth games it will greatly help the funding Commonwealth nations get for developing Rugby League.

[King-Eliagh]

Europe would be a ridiculous idea TLPG atm and anytime during the next century. The AFL's hands are full and funds are tied with GWS and the GC for the next few decades so you may as well leave your pipe dreams of europe in the pipe my friend. It simple cant be done, for atleast a century and possible much much longer if ever.

And i think you're being a bit generous in saying marngrook has a "small footprint" in many countries. I'm thinking the measurement would be closer to a little toe print...the little toe print of a jockey couples' 6 week premature baby. Yes that'd be about right.

[TLPG]

We already have a small footprint in many countries, Pie. More countries than thugby can claim that's for sure. Yeah, thugby does have more countries playing the game at a semi pro level - that's true. But beyond that they drop off very badly.

As far as soccer goes - certainly in Europe it will be hard to shift off number one. After all, the German soccer comp averages higher crowds than the AFL does, and the EPL is only just behind the AFL as well. There's a lot of money as a result and shifting that is going to be the hardest. It can be done though - it just needs strong promotion as a strong alternative. Numbers are climbing, as the International Cup is a testament to.

Oh here we go again the looney is back. :D England super league semi pro? New Zealand world cup champions and former 4 nations champions semi Pro the Auckland Warriors finalists 2011 semi Pro? Mate spare yourself the embarrassment you have no idea what your talking about. And as for this international cup you talk about, mate all those countries that play in it are below amateur level. Its now clear why Aus don't compete in it, there will be scores of 200 - 20 if they did.

Hey that's not bad compared compared to the scores between the Kangaroos and some tinpot thugby nation! 100 - 0 anyone??

The NZ win in the World Cup was a fluke. That won't happen again. There is a lot more money in the NRL than there is anywhere else. To compare NRL to Super League is a laugh to say the least. The only reason the Poms have won the club challenge is because they use English referees who penalise more frequently.

The International Cup is amateur. There is no lower level, so I wonder if you are the one who has no idea! Besides, they play a pretty good brand of footy! I saw Nauru v Canada and South Africa v Ireland in 2008, and both games were solid skill wise. It helped that the second game was a close one complete with a grandstand finish.

[MarkZZZ]

"They play a pretty good brand of football" good enough to give any team in the AFL a run for their money? I think not.

[TLPG]

Who gives a crap, Mark? They can play - that's all one needs.