Talking Footy

Fred wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:38 pm

Here's the audio link to the interview.

https://www.4bc.com.au/podcast/perfectl ... c-stadium/

Again, not my words - just reporting what this guy is saying.

azif wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:53 pm

here is what they said about the Gabba 6 months ago & nothing has changed

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... toria-park

" That option was criticised by some for being a waste of money, and by others for being physically impossible. The Gabba’s tight inner city footprint is an architect’s nightmare and the impact on the adjoining East Brisbane state school lent weight to arguments that other locations should be considered "

Fred wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:19 pm

azif wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:53 pm

here is what they said about the Gabba 6 months ago & nothing has changed

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... toria-park

" That option was criticised by some for being a waste of money, and by others for being physically impossible. The Gabba’s tight inner city footprint is an architect’s nightmare and the impact on the adjoining East Brisbane state school lent weight to arguments that other locations should be considered "

Yes, agree with the later. Many people putting many options forward it seems. Still thinking a partial tear down of the Gabba - with rest to be done later, could be a smokey. Or that other stadium location on the river put forth by the other private consortium.

Fred wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:54 am

Public private partnerships is pretty popular with a lot of infrastructure projects with governments - not a big fan myself but does allow things to get done that otherwise wouldn't. But as I said, a smokey.

And yes - there is no way theere will be two oval stadiums. Either it is a gabba rebuild in one shape or another, or a new stadium elsewhere - not both, The push is to buld the new stadium elsewhere whilst using the gabba until the new one is ready - then demolishing the Gabba for green space or something like that.

Be interesting to see the outcome - the usual issues coming out of committees is that they try and please too many people- thus you get a mishmash of ideas - but also - the government would have been very clear what they wanted (I have been watching Utopia - which I suspect is likely to close to reality lol). I'd be very surprised if a new stadium was built at Mount Gravatt - but - who knows.

Fred wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:25 am

Optus Stadium in Perth is a Public Private Partnership arrangement


ps://www.wa.gov.au/system/files/2020-01/new- ... ummary.pdf

"Part One provides a broad overview of the DBFM Project, including the rationale to deliver it
under a public-private partnership model, a summary of the procurement process, the value for
money outcome, the public interest considerations and the timetable for the DBFM Project."

Fred wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:18 pm

See below Asif -

I said:

Public private partnerships is pretty popular with a lot of infrastructure projects with governments - not a big fan myself but does allow things to get done that otherwise wouldn't. But as I said, a smokey.


You said:

Freeways & the like yes , Stadiums ..... no for private investment.

There isn't one major venue in this country built by a private consortium ... wonder why fwed .. wonder why

And the govt are clear on what they want , to spend no more then 3 billion on venues for the Olympics
it limits their options but thats all QLD can afford.


As an aside- I am not sure why the name calling and abuse - and what me liking football (AFL) has to do with anything about the building of an olympic stadium? would be nice to have a discussion and to disagree without reverting to silly insults? I wouldn't expect that from my children and should not have to expect that on a chat forum get it in the Fight Club as that is what it is meant to be - but here?

Fred wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:32 pm

We were talking about funding: Government wanting to spend 6 billion - I pointed out PPPs is part of one of the proposals.

You said PPPs were not used to fund stadiums - freeways yes but not stadiums. Your words

I pointed out that they indeed used to fund stadiums.

you keep changing your point - from funding - where I mentioned PPP - to who was running the stadium - now to who would be constructing. I am happy to have the discussion - but you have to be consistent, you have to acknowledge where you get things wrong, and you have to be an adult.

So I will leave this topic here for now and return to it when new news comes in.