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Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:24 pm
by NlolRL
AFLcrap1 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:11 pm
I posted the article .
Where it was admitted .
As in printed.

What your fumbler mate rants with ....lol
the article is about an AFL employee who thought he heard what he believed was a racial issue from one AFL recruiter. The AFL recruiter has a different account of the discussion. You assume the AFL employees account is the truth despite the fact it makes zero sense for the recruiter to 'out' himself to the AFL as a racist for risk of losing his career. This AFL employee also has a history of getting these issues incorrect.

Your only supporting evidence is a smaller than usual number of indigenous drafts 6 months later that year. Another ludicrous assumption given anomalies in recruiting patterns are perfectly normal, AND, the 'rule' would be far more likely to be in place while Rendell was still working in 2011, not after he was sacked.

You're doing a lot of assuming to support your view. Dont insult us by calling it proof

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:31 pm
by Fred
Thanks for clarrifying nlolrl.

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:53 pm
by AFLcrap1
Lol

3 days later the clarification comes
Wow
Wonder what transpired in those 3 days

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:58 pm
by NlolRL
AFLcrap1 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:53 pm
Lol

3 days later the clarification comes
Wow
Wonder what transpired in those 3 days
yeah, I know what you're suggesting happened, the AFL got to him so he'd tow the party line. Yet he slammed the AFL, so that clearly wasnt it. Hmm, maybe he was dealing with the media storm and deciding his future with the Crows.

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:28 pm
by AFLcrap1
Lol he slammed the AF, because he Lost his job
Vlad rang him to tell him he'd be better off finding another job .
So he tell an AFL employee why he & others are not recruiting .
Suddenly the pressures in him .
He tries to explain what he meant( most people would after someone had opened the can of worms)
Quits before he was fired ...then has a shot at the AFL .
Can't blame him

Thrown under the bus for telling it how it is

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:44 pm
by NlolRL
AFLcrap1 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:28 pm
Lol he slammed the AF, because he Lost his job
Vlad rang him to tell him he'd be better off finding another job .
So he tell an AFL employee why he & others are not recruiting .
Suddenly the pressures in him .
He tries to explain what he meant( most people would after someone had opened the can of worms)
Quits before he was fired ...then has a shot at the AFL .
Can't blame him

Thrown under the bus for telling it how it is
So why did he tell the AFL's indigenous officer he was a racist when that was always going to lose him his job?

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:28 pm
by AFLcrap1
Ask him .
Like I said maybe he's honest .
A foreign concept I know but there are honest people out there

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:30 pm
by AFLcrap1
Havnt you ever had an OFFICIAL OFF THE RECORD talk to someone .
That'd be my guess .
He prob told him the truth & didn't think it go any further .

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:21 pm
by NlolRL
AFLcrap1 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:30 pm
Havnt you ever had an OFFICIAL OFF THE RECORD talk to someone .
That'd be my guess .
He prob told him the truth & didn't think it go any further .
so Im trying to picture this.....
Rendell: "Hey Mifsy, dont think I can recruit any more indigenous players unless they have a white parent. Wadya reckon"?
Mifsud: "err, thats being a racist...."
Rendell: "oh yeah, suppose it is. Oops" :(/

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:26 pm
by AFLcrap1
Prob not like that

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:58 am
by AFLcrap1
Lol,if this is true
Apparently on Ch 9 this morning they were into the AFL over the rampant racism .
Read that one of them said that collingfumblewood did not have an indigenous player until 1990s
Any one know if this is right .
If it is it's disgusting

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:00 pm
by Fred
I am sure mark Williams captioned collingwood before then.

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:38 pm
by Terry
Fred wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:00 pm
I am sure mark Williams captioned collingwood before then.
Thats great Fred!!! Which cartoon character was he a "caption" for???? Lolololololololololololololololol. ..

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:37 pm
by AFLcrap1
Fred wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:00 pm
I am sure mark Williams captioned collingwood before then.
He might have played forcollington but he's not indigenous


Port coach Mark Williams' great, great grandad was a slave
RENATO CASTELLO, JESPER FJELDSTAD, Sunday Mail (SA)
August 9, 2009 12:05am
HE'S known as Choco, but the origin of Mark Williams' dark skin - and the family's athletic prowess - has always been a mystery...until now.
Research into the family bloodline has revealed that the Port Adelaide coach and SA's most successful football family are the descendants of an African-Jamaican slave.

Although some thought Choco was southern European, and many other believed he was part Aboriginal, Williams' cousin Christine Gibson has unravelled the family's history, revealing their great, great grandfather, Thomas Alexander Ferguson, was an Afro-Caribbean born 187 years ago - an orphan of the brutal transatlantic slave trade.

"It's something that I'm proud of," Williams said.

"I only found out about it through her (Christine's) research and she's done a wonderful job. She's spent huge hours and it's all true, there's no doubt about it. If you go back far enough, I think we're all from slaves. The Jamaican bit might explain the dark complexion a bit. And why I'm so fast ... like (Jamaican sprinter) Usain Bolt."

For years, many assumed Williams had Aboriginal heritage, often inviting him to take part in indigenous football matches during his playing career, which he declined.

"I said no because I didn't qualify and one player accused me of not being a brother," he said of one invitation which came in the 1980s.

Mrs Gibson, of Seaview Downs, said the news was a surprise to the whole family.

"We always laughed because everyone thinks Mark's got part Aboriginal blood in him, I always thought it was quite funny," she said.

"When I told him this (about their grandfather), we all laughed and (Mark's sister) Jenny and Mark rang me up and the first thing Jenny said was: 'It's no wonder we can all dance so well."

Using family archives, geneaology website ancestry.com and details gleaned from relatives, Mrs Gibson spent two years tracing her family tree. She has compiled an essay that links the Williams name with some of SA's founding fathers.

According to her investigations, Thomas Ferguson was born in Jamaica in 1822, possibly to a Negro Creole woman. His birth certificate listed his parents as "unknown".

At nine months old, he was registered as an "inherited slave" to his master Thomas Ferguson - a Scottish pastoralist - and was given the same name.

He worked as a slave in Scotland before coming to South Australia in 1854, at age 32, as personal valet to successful businessman, philanthropist and politician Sir Thomas Elder.

In an unusual event for the time he married Sarah Milligan - the white daughter of an Irish family - one year later at St Mark's Church in Adelaide.


Check out Choco's family tree in today's Sunday Mail

Thomas and Sarah's daughter, Soffea Ferguson, born on July 19, 1858, married lawyer John Williams, who was the grandson of Thomas Hudson Beare. He was one of the state's first settlers, arriving on Kangaroo Island in 1836 tasked with establishing a British colony.

The pair had five children including their only son Melville George Williams in July 15, 1883 who would grow up with a love for sport and excel at cycling, cricket, athletics and of course football in his hometown Quorn.

His genes would be passed on to his son Foster Williams, born in 1922, who along with his children Mark, Stephen and Anthony would make the Williams name synonomous with the success of the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Melville's granddaughter Jenny, meanwhile, become a member of Australia's world championship winning lacrosse team.

Ferguson moved to Nairne to work as a farm hand for Matthew Smillie, who was credited with being the founder of the Hills hamlet, before moving to Blinman, in the Flinders Ranges.

He died while working on the epic project to build a telegraph line between Adelaide and Darwin and is believed to be buried in or near Alice Springs, but Mrs Gibson said she could find no official recorded date of his death.

Mrs Gibson, who admitted "breaking down in tears" researching the history, said she was proud of her ancestors and the struggle they went through to build a future for herself and her family.

"We've all been a very close knit family...we're a fairly competitive strong willed very strong knit family," she said.

"From all the way down we've been encouraged to be the best we can be."

Re: Most racist sport in Aust

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:39 pm
by AFLcrap1
So maybe it is true
The biggest fumble club in the land looks like it didn't have an indigenous player till the 1990s

Oh my
Was Eddie McRacist around in the late 90s
That might explain it
He's got form ...good form when it comes to racism .