The AFL all Sydney Final - Clouded by the seedy underbelly of the code

[Fred]

Any proof he wasn't. I do recall prior to him having a name for faking frees and being booed for this. I also recall at the time this being the arguement. But if you have evidence to the contrary please provide. But i do agree he was booed afterward and it did become racial for some, for others it was a protest at being told not to boo. But i definetely thought i recalled him being booed prior to his award.

[Fred]

Just an opinion piece but does point to what i was saying

Booing Adam Goodes
May 29, 2015 by Steve Hodder 22 Comments
It’s on again. It’s been tooted about since Saturday, caulking up the airwaves around the Carlton v Malthouse saga; indignant radio types were deploring the besmirching of a great indigenous Australian. Why do people boo Adam Goodes? I know why many Maybloomers do, but I’m more interested how the subject is scrutinised by the so-called experts. In other words how the subject of racism is explored within popular culture.

Commentators within the media don’t get the Hawthorn v Goodes thing, with the exception of one, a “spin king” on Radio SEN no less. Some plonk for outright racism, some think it’s the tall poppy syndrome and some think Goodes “unAustralian” for dobbing on a racist; truly Mick McGuane actually posited that one on Radio 927. All that tells me is they don’t get racism and the insidious vileness that it generates. I hope they were all disgusted when Howard decided to re-invade indigenous Australia, probably not.

The booing has got nothing to do with race or politics or because he’s a “tall poppy”. He certainly doesn’t get booed because of pointing out a young racist at a game, he had every right for doing that and while the actions of security made me cringe, I think the supervising adult should’ve been kicked out, but I wouldn’t hold Goodes responsible for that. He did the right thing! The booing began before this incident, at least for Hawthorn it did.

I’ve got no idea what Goodes’ politics are. I don’t care about such lame nationalist awards as Australian of the Year, but I know some fine people have been so awarded and I don’t begrudge it to Goodes. I wouldn’t accept it, but then the likes of me will never be considered so it’s not an issue.

For the record I don’t boo Adam Goodes but I’ve been know to boo; not Goodes; but the likes of Ross Oakley, Bruce Ruxton, Peter Reith at the docks and the odd umpire. Booing can be likened to Marx’s “sigh of the oppressed” (the bit before the “opium of the masses”) it’s the voice of the plebs, the great unwashed and can be a form of catharsis. Often it’s about the only way you can contribute. “Tutt tutt” I can hear some people say. My primary school principal, Mr Gray, once gave a bunch of boys a ferocious dressing down for booing a visiting netball team. “Disgraceful and ungracious” I heard him tell them. They were all ashamed. But booing persists because if people are allowed to cheer, or jeer then they can also boo. Too bad if others don’t approve.

Hawthorn know how brilliant a player Goodes has been and I’ve begrudging respect for the numerous times he’s destroyed Hawthorn, almost single handed and of course he played his best game for the year against Hawthorn on Saturday. Maybloomers boo Goodes because a few years ago he slid feet first into a pack in a game at the SCG. It wasn’t the first time he had done that sort of thing. Unfortunately, a once brilliant player has fallen into the unedifying habit of staging and whinging. He also gets booed because he is a perennial stager, a poser and some think him a bit of a poonce.

Within any mob there are all kinds, some are fine and some lousy, yet Australian football crowds are usually well behaved, generous to all players and knowledgeable. I’ve never known racists to distinguish themselves by booing; usually they identify themselves by words. On Saturday night people booed but they didn’t racially abuse Goodes, not even on the quiet. They reminded each other of Goodes past indiscretions while some lamented the booing because it sounded racist, but no one was racist.

In the end I put a stop to my Lil’ Fella booing because I didn’t want him dragged into the whole conflated affair. I explained why I didn’t want him to boo but he had no idea what I was on about. He doesn’t like Goodes because Goodes kicks goals against the Mustardpots. He was booing because others were. Booing can be self-perpetuating. I know why people boo Adam Goodes and I don’t mind.

[pussycat]

lol
I'll put it in 1950 terms that hopefully you will understand .
One darkie dared to try & make a stand .
He was booed out of the game
The other darkie was a good boy
He didn't dare try to say anything bad about whities
Therefore he knows his place & doesn't need to be abused .

Most people seem to understand this .
You & swines have trouble .
Lol
That's not really surprising .

That's why no aboriginal plays AFL........wait oh that's right they do, ok that's why they all get booed............oh they don't, oh well that's why no other people of colour play..........no again fuck looks like an individual being booed might be for other Reasons than race if it is isolated to just him!

Correction-Aboriginals that have one white parent!

[Fred]

I dont think that is actuallt true. I can think of several off the top of my head that have two aboriginal parents.

[pussycat]

From my recollection Goodes was booed a lot as he was seen as soneone who milked free kicks by staging. Many players get booed for this if known for it. Also he is a great player and they tend to get booed by opposition. Then there was the incident with the young girl where he made a stand. The booing intensified and people started relating the booing to being racial. When this happened the booing became greater as people did not want to be told they could not boo him because he was black. Then there was the morans who thought it was funny. In the end i think indeed it did become racial, very racial as Goodes saw it that way. Would they have booed him because he was white,,, definetely if milking free kicks. Would that have intensified if he was white and a big furore was made over it. Definetely. Did it have a racial component in the end. Sure did. Are all AFL supporters racist. Well that is just stupid. Are the majority. Of course not. Are thete racist AFL supporters. Of course there is.

I am also amazed that stereotyping, which is a major underpinning of racism, is used in an debate to denigrate others for being racist.

How is it stereotyping Fred? Every couple of weeks there's some type of racist article in the paper concerning The AFL - supporter -officials - monkeys - recruiters - banners- crowds - eddy. Its the general attitude.

[Swans4ever]

lol
I'll put it in 1950 terms that hopefully you will understand .
One darkie dared to try & make a stand .
He was booed out of the game
The other darkie was a good boy
He didn't dare try to say anything bad about whities
Therefore he knows his place & doesn't need to be abused .

Most people seem to understand this .
You & swines have trouble .
Lol
That's not really surprising .

That's why no aboriginal plays AFL........wait oh that's right they do, ok that's why they all get booed............oh they don't, oh well that's why no other people of colour play..........no again fuck looks like an individual being booed might be for other Reasons than race if it is isolated to just him!

Correction-Aboriginals that have one white parent!

Oh please that was something said by ONE recruiter from Adelaide it doesn't apply to other clubs you only have to see how many Koories have been drafted since then - your an idiot!

[Swans4ever]

From my recollection Goodes was booed a lot as he was seen as soneone who milked free kicks by staging. Many players get booed for this if known for it. Also he is a great player and they tend to get booed by opposition. Then there was the incident with the young girl where he made a stand. The booing intensified and people started relating the booing to being racial. When this happened the booing became greater as people did not want to be told they could not boo him because he was black. Then there was the morans who thought it was funny. In the end i think indeed it did become racial, very racial as Goodes saw it that way. Would they have booed him because he was white,,, definetely if milking free kicks. Would that have intensified if he was white and a big furore was made over it. Definetely. Did it have a racial component in the end. Sure did. Are all AFL supporters racist. Well that is just stupid. Are the majority. Of course not. Are thete racist AFL supporters. Of course there is.

I am also amazed that stereotyping, which is a major underpinning of racism, is used in an debate to denigrate others for being racist.

How is it stereotyping Fred? Every couple of weeks there's some type of racist article in the paper concerning The AFL - supporter -officials - monkeys - recruiters - banners- crowds - eddy. Its the general attitude.

I notice you don't talk about the same with RL - they have had their fair share and other issues - you don't see most AFL posters on here banging on about it! Stop taking the moral high ground when there isn't one!

[Fred]

So all AFL supporters are racist based on incidents being reported every couple of weeks.... which i doubt but if true that is at most 15 incidents ... yet how many attend the games. And what of those who found it abhorent?

[King-Eliagh]

Ahh swines? I think it's high time you fukk off outta this thread if you can't apologise to members and guests for:

A) lying to all and sundry claiming that the booing of goodes magically stopped before the end of his career when the AFL public were told it's a bit racist to boo him, and

B) deceiving all and sundry by suggesting that AFL crowds were a-okay because Nicky winmar after standing up against racism in 1993 was not booed out of the game like goodes was.

In regards to ur lying to all and sundry, I.e item ( a )I proved goodes was still booed out of the game - booed pretty much every time he touched the ball up until his very last matches.

In regards to your deceiving all and sundry I.e item (b) I proved Nicky winmar left the game shortly after his stand because he was recieving death threats by AFL supporters.

Unless you apologise for your lies and deception to the public on such an important issue I suggest you fukk off outta this thread

[Swans4ever]

Ahh swines? I think it's high time you fukk off outta this thread if you can't apologise to members and guests for:

A) lying to all and sundry claiming that the booing of goodes magically stopped before the end of his career when the AFL public were told it's a bit racist to boo him, and

B) deceiving all and sundry by suggesting that AFL crowds were a-okay because Nicky winmar after standing up against racism in 1993 was not booed out of the game like goodes was.

In regards to ur lying to all and sundry, I.e item ( a )I proved goodes was still booed out of the game - booed pretty much every time he touched the ball up until his very last matches.

In regards to your deceiving all and sundry I.e item (b) I proved Nicky winmar left the game shortly after his stand because he was recieving death threats by AFL supporters.

Unless you apologise for your lies and deception to the public on such an important issue I suggest you fukk off outta this thread

Since when did you become thread moderator or the opinion Police how about you fuck off for your deceiving statements IMPLYING that all AFL fans are racist - your nothing but a loud mouth the only claim to fame you have is being a biased and unobjective twat - go stick yah head up some guys arse after all it's firmly licking RL arse at the moment!!!! What a tosser!

[AFLcrap1]

Throw a banana at him swines .

[Fred]

So in a week where AFL has done well in crowds, ratings and media interest, particuarly in sydney, this is the best we have to try and put down the sport? I note little comment in other threads

[King-Eliagh]

Ahh swines? I think it's high time you fukk off outta this thread if you can't apologise to members and guests for:

A) lying to all and sundry claiming that the booing of goodes magically stopped before the end of his career when the AFL public were told it's a bit racist to boo him, and

B) deceiving all and sundry by suggesting that AFL crowds were a-okay because Nicky winmar after standing up against racism in 1993 was not booed out of the game like goodes was.

In regards to ur lying to all and sundry, I.e item ( a )I proved goodes was still booed out of the game - booed pretty much every time he touched the ball up until his very last matches.

In regards to your deceiving all and sundry I.e item (b) I proved Nicky winmar left the game shortly after his stand because he was recieving death threats by AFL supporters.

Unless you apologise for your lies and deception to the public on such an important issue I suggest you fukk off outta this thread

Since when did you become thread moderator or the opinion Police how about you fuck off for your deceiving statements IMPLYING that all AFL fans are racist - your nothing but a loud mouth the only claim to fame you have is being a biased and unobjective twat - go stick yah head up some guys arse after all it's firmly licking RL arse at the moment!!!! What a tosser!

Ummm listen, just because I'm not racist and you appear more racist than a kkk chief doesn't mean you gotta go all apeshit on me bro.

I've never stated or implied all AFL fans are racists. Just that there are thousands upon thousands of em. You seem little different than the thousands of AFL racists lying about the Adam Goodes and nicky winmar cases to make it sound better for the AFL racists out there.

Just because I caught you out doing this doesn't mean you gotta go all potty mouthed hissy fittin like a 6year old tanty queen. It just makes you look worse bro.

Now apologise or pissoff outta my thread

[King-Eliagh]

Throw a banana at him swines .

:_<>

If he had one and I was in front of him he'd be odds on to peg it at me right now aflcrap1!

[Swans4ever]

Ahh swines? I think it's high time you fukk off outta this thread if you can't apologise to members and guests for:

A) lying to all and sundry claiming that the booing of goodes magically stopped before the end of his career when the AFL public were told it's a bit racist to boo him, and

B) deceiving all and sundry by suggesting that AFL crowds were a-okay because Nicky winmar after standing up against racism in 1993 was not booed out of the game like goodes was.

In regards to ur lying to all and sundry, I.e item ( a )I proved goodes was still booed out of the game - booed pretty much every time he touched the ball up until his very last matches.

In regards to your deceiving all and sundry I.e item (b) I proved Nicky winmar left the game shortly after his stand because he was recieving death threats by AFL supporters.

Unless you apologise for your lies and deception to the public on such an important issue I suggest you fukk off outta this thread

Since when did you become thread moderator or the opinion Police how about you fuck off for your deceiving statements IMPLYING that all AFL fans are racist - your nothing but a loud mouth the only claim to fame you have is being a biased and unobjective twat - go stick yah head up some guys arse after all it's firmly licking RL arse at the moment!!!! What a tosser!

Ummm listen, just because I'm not racist and you appear more racist than a kkk chief doesn't mean you gotta go all apeshit on me bro.

I've never stated or implied all AFL fans are racists. Just that there are thousands upon thousands of em. You seem little different than the thousands of AFL racists lying about the Adam Goodes and nicky winmar cases to make it sound better for the AFL racists out there.

Just because I caught you out doing this doesn't mean you gotta go all potty mouthed hissy fittin like a 6year old tanty queen. It just makes you look worse bro.

Now apologise or pissoff outta my thread

F**k you douche I couldn't give a flying toss bag for your warped opinion!