Talking Footy

The_Wookie wrote:

post_hoc wrote:

Wookie, you are wrong about the socceroos, the existing deal with FIFA appointed broadcaster who's name escapes me (they changed names recently) is for later stages of qualifying and obviously world cup. It does not include early rounds and friendlies, these are owned by the FFA and I do not believe they have been bundled into this package.

Every other report seems to mention that Fox paid for the socceroos friendly rights as part of this deal.

Having said all of that, I know it is hard for the AFL crowd to understand but the total broadcasting rights is a lot larger than the one mentioned and the FTV and digital to come. Fox also pays to broadcast the socceroos in the World Cup (usually on-sells as well) SBS have paid to broadcast the Confederations Cup in Russia, Fox also pays every year to broadcast the Asian Champions League etc etc. Optus has also paid to broadcast the confederations and world and women's world cups

All of these rights etc do find their way back to the FFA for instance the last world cup the FFA earned $8 million, they will get a share of the rights from the confederations cup etc etc.

Evidently its worth a million a match.

I know it is hard for you AFL guys to understand, but the $57 million is not the whole story and far from it.

I know its hard to not be a condescending fuckwit. You're right its not the whole story. A story i published yesterday on my own website (which has the references to the material below)

http://www.footyindustry.com/?p=3158

The deal includes:

* The new deal is comprised of $310 million in cash and $36 million in contra payments.
* Fox will commit $51 million next season, rising to $56 million per annum thereafter with the potential to earn an extra $7.5 million per year for the last two years if certain TV ratings triggers are met.
* The FFA has, crucially, also negotiated to end the “last rights” clause that has previously enabled Fox Sports to match any other bid the governing body receives.
* Foxsports will broadcast all A-League games live on Foxtel TV, Foxtel Go & Foxtel Play services,
* Socceroos, Matildas, W-League and FFA Cup matches will continue to be broadcast on the Foxtel platform
* One A-League match will be broadcast live on free to air television on Saturday nights in a deal to be concluded next year.
* Gallop confirmed that if a free-to-air deal did not eventuate, then the fifth game would revert to Fox Sports, which will fork out extra money. The Australian understands the figure is around $3m and that, theoretically, Fox could sell that game to networks for significantly less than the $10m to $15m FFA would like to get for it.
* There is also a clause in the Fox Sports agreement for the pay-TV network to increase the FFA deal annually when the A-League expands to 12 teams, within about two years
* The FFA has retained some digital rights that it hopes to strike a deal with a company such as Telstra in the new year, and could also sell A-Leagues to several countries overseas.

leeroy*NRL* wrote:

well done wook for that post..

how many friendly socceroos matches are per year on avg that are included in the fox deal..
/ the $1M per match..

Beaussie wrote:

How many of these World Cup qualifiers and confederation cup cup games will actually be broadcast prime time in Australia?

If not prime time, isn't the value greatly reduced and games are set to be shown on the secondary channel of whichever FTA network is interested enough after the BBL rights are sold?

eelofwest wrote:

So its looks like my prediction of 80m a year was close to the mark.

57m a year from Fox, 10-15m from FTA, 3m from Overseas tv rights and still have online from Telstra to be signed.

70-80m which for Aleague is a good chunk of money.

Looks like the ARU and rugby have been relegated to 4th football code, 5th if we count Cricket.

AFLcrap1 wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

So its looks like my prediction of 80m a year was close to the mark.

57m a year from Fox, 10-15m from FTA, 3m from Overseas tv rights and still have online from Telstra to be signed.

70-80m which for Aleague is a good chunk of money.

Looks like the ARU and rugby have been relegated to 4th football code, 5th if we count Cricket.

Dunno about that . I've seen it broken down on various sites & it seems that to get what the figure announced there are a few hurdles to overcome .