NRL on paytv in NZ not guaranteed

[Raiderdave]

The Suns were lucky to get over 50k last year.

they're average was about 40K
the Lions about 75K ... they got to 100K ... once i think

the Titans in brissie..... about 150K on average
the Broncos .... about 300K

close
errrrrr......... ............ nope

Suns
92, 48, 75, 36 but on fox as well, 102 plus on fox, 64 plus on fox, 110, 28 plus on fox, 69plus on fox, 41, 48, 53 plus on fox, 42 plus on fox, 63 plus on fox, 37 plus on fox, 55 plus on fox, 40 plus on fox, 85 plus on fox, 31 plus on fox, 52, 37 plus on fox.
Average 57k plus foxtel ratings

Lions
115 plus on fox, 76, 75 plus on fox, 102 plus on fox, 83, 87 plus on fox, 69 plus on fox, 72 plus on fox, 74 plus on fox, 66 plus on fox, 72 plus on fox, 77, 60, 59 plus on fox, 85 plus on fox, 81, 32 plus on fox, 44 plus on fox.
73 average plus foxtel.

Not bad for two teams that finished on the bottom. Where I'd the warriors finish last year? Hmmm. Did they have games that were broadcast on FTA and payTV simultaneously? Hmmmmmm

pathetic ratings for both
the Titans ... the NRL wooden spooners for 2011... more then twice as popular as the Lions
4 times more popular then the Thuns

the Warriors .... a team in a country where the sport is overshadowed by union in a world cup year hosted by NZ
& also.. not a single Aust ex pat sthn **** in site .. unlike the thousands in SE Qld
but still.. more then double the Lions & nearly 4 times the Thuns in popularity in its respective untraditional market

aint a contest
RL .. big & getting bigger in NZ

AR ... not so much in QLD

[Xman]

Foxtel! You keep forgetting the double broadcasts!

The titans were 3 times the suns on FtA, not 4. Add foxtel and the difference would be closer to 2 times.

The broncos are shown live on FN almost every week. The majority of lions and suns games were sat and sun and in the afternoon. None of the broncos games were also on foxtel! Difference much?

[ParraEelsNRL]

And seeing as we have the throng as well as metro and regional tam out here, I see no reason why you (Bea) should not put all the ratings in for RL and AFL this coming season from all sites

yep I agree about putting kiwi ratings in

up to an extra 200K for some warriors games in NZ
100K for some other NRL clashes X 7
nearly a million a week watching our game across the ditch

& for the AFL.............

So up to 200k is good from 4million people?

PAY TV, ever heard of that?

NZ has a smaller population than Sydney and the swans are on FTA, yet the warriors and RL in general in NZ smash what the AFL gets in NSW.

[ParraEelsNRL]

Clearly, theyre certainly indifferent to RL.

& sydneysiders to the Swans ... what would they be then ?

Who ever said Sydney was AFL territory?

The lions rate up to 100k in Brisbane. That's comparable to the Warriors in NZ as far as interest levels go. The suns are not far off these levels too.

Again, Lions are FTA while the Warriors are on Pay TV, got it yet?

[ParraEelsNRL]

The Suns were lucky to get over 50k last year.

they're average was about 40K
the Lions about 75K ... they got to 100K ... once i think

the Titans in brissie..... about 150K on average
the Broncos .... about 300K

close
errrrrr......... ............ nope

Suns
92, 48, 75, 36 but on fox as well, 102 plus on fox, 64 plus on fox, 110, 28 plus on fox, 69plus on fox, 41, 48, 53 plus on fox, 42 plus on fox, 63 plus on fox, 37 plus on fox, 55 plus on fox, 40 plus on fox, 85 plus on fox, 31 plus on fox, 52, 37 plus on fox.
Average 57k plus foxtel ratings

Lions
115 plus on fox, 76, 75 plus on fox, 102 plus on fox, 83, 87 plus on fox, 69 plus on fox, 72 plus on fox, 74 plus on fox, 66 plus on fox, 72 plus on fox, 77, 60, 59 plus on fox, 85 plus on fox, 81, 32 plus on fox, 44 plus on fox.
73 average plus foxtel.

Not bad for two teams that finished on the bottom. Where I'd the warriors finish last year? Hmmm. Did they have games that were broadcast on FTA and payTV simultaneously? Hmmmmmm

Again, FTA vs Pay TV.

[NSWAFL]

Again - you are full of it, Debbie!

[ParraEelsNRL]

Prove otherwise or I'll call a bs file on you again.

[Xman]

& sydneysiders to the Swans ... what would they be then ?

Who ever said Sydney was AFL territory?

The lions rate up to 100k in Brisbane. That's comparable to the Warriors in NZ as far as interest levels go. The suns are not far off these levels too.

Again, Lions are FTA while the Warriors are on Pay TV, got it yet?

Lions are both FTA and pay for most games yet their payTV numbers are never added.

[NSWAFL]

Prove otherwise or I'll call a bs file on you again.

No, I'm expressing an opinion so you can't. You have to prove your case!

[Raiderdave]

Foxtel! You keep forgetting the double broadcasts!

The titans were 3 times the suns on FtA, not 4. Add foxtel and the difference would be closer to 2 times.

The broncos are shown live on FN almost every week. The majority of lions and suns games were sat and sun and in the afternoon. None of the broncos games were also on foxtel! Difference much?

pay reaches only 15% of Australians .... a tick over 3 Million people
meaning about 85% of the available audience in SE QLD would have been watching the teams there on FTA when they were on ... even if that same game was on pay at the same time

56K for the Thuns on FTA ... another 8K on Pay .. the rest from other parts of Aust
is that half of the Titans 197K FTA average audience
no its not even a third

the Lions may have hd theirs bumped up to 90K combined
again
not even a 3rd of the Broncos


put the Broncos on at midnight on a Wednesday in Jan
& they'd still wipe the floor with the Lions if they were put on Live on a Friday night in June.

difference much
yep
in the respective popularities of the sports in SE QLD there is .........

[Xman]

Foxtel! You keep forgetting the double broadcasts!

The titans were 3 times the suns on FtA, not 4. Add foxtel and the difference would be closer to 2 times.

The broncos are shown live on FN almost every week. The majority of lions and suns games were sat and sun and in the afternoon. None of the broncos games were also on foxtel! Difference much?

pay reaches only 15% of Australians .... a tick over 3 Million people
meaning about 85% of the available audience in SE QLD would have been watching the teams there on FTA when they were on ... even if that same game was on pay at the same time

56K for the Thuns on FTA ... another 8K on Pay .. the rest from other parts of Aust
is that half of the Titans 197K FTA average audience
no its not even a third

the Lions may have hd theirs bumped up to 90K combined
again
not even a 3rd of the Broncos


put the Broncos on at midnight on a Wednesday in Jan
& they'd still wipe the floor with the Lions if they were put on Live on a Friday night in June.

difference much
yep
in the respective popularities of the sports in SE QLD there is .........

Subscription rates in QLD are higher than VIC SA WA TAS. The QLD game would be televised to QLD and a few other interested markets so the proportion of viewers from QLD would be higher than 10%. The games are ad free on Foxtel too, so people who have Foxtel will watch it instead of FTA.

AFL games suffer from a longer TV coverage because the audience is averaged over 3 hrs. Its also fairly well acknoledged that RL is better suited to TV and AFL to live at the game.

To say the difference in interest is purely the difference in ratings is wrong.

[Raiderdave]

Foxtel! You keep forgetting the double broadcasts!

The titans were 3 times the suns on FtA, not 4. Add foxtel and the difference would be closer to 2 times.

The broncos are shown live on FN almost every week. The majority of lions and suns games were sat and sun and in the afternoon. None of the broncos games were also on foxtel! Difference much?

pay reaches only 15% of Australians .... a tick over 3 Million people
meaning about 85% of the available audience in SE QLD would have been watching the teams there on FTA when they were on ... even if that same game was on pay at the same time

56K for the Thuns on FTA ... another 8K on Pay .. the rest from other parts of Aust
is that half of the Titans 197K FTA average audience
no its not even a third

the Lions may have hd theirs bumped up to 90K combined
again
not even a 3rd of the Broncos


put the Broncos on at midnight on a Wednesday in Jan
& they'd still wipe the floor with the Lions if they were put on Live on a Friday night in June.

difference much
yep
in the respective popularities of the sports in SE QLD there is .........

Subscription rates in QLD are higher than VIC SA WA TAS. The QLD game would be televised to QLD and a few other interested markets so the proportion of viewers from QLD would be higher than 10%.

AFL games suffer from a longer TV coverage because the audience is averaged over 3 hrs. Its also fairly well acknoledged that RL is better suited to TV and AFL to live at the game.

To say the difference in interest is purely the difference in ratings is wrong.

I didn't say 10% .. I said 15%

& subscription rates are about 24% in QLD .... add another 5K
but we're........... still........... not anywhere near the NRL SE QLD teams
better live eh ?

that'd be why the Lions crowds dropped by 33% in 2011 .... & Thuns members are less interested by about the same % for 2012 so far too
seems they don't have the bug eh

[ParraEelsNRL]

The Broncos are on FTA most weeks, so why would a lot of qlders have pay tv?

[Xman]

pay reaches only 15% of Australians .... a tick over 3 Million people
meaning about 85% of the available audience in SE QLD would have been watching the teams there on FTA when they were on ... even if that same game was on pay at the same time

56K for the Thuns on FTA ... another 8K on Pay .. the rest from other parts of Aust
is that half of the Titans 197K FTA average audience
no its not even a third

the Lions may have hd theirs bumped up to 90K combined
again
not even a 3rd of the Broncos


put the Broncos on at midnight on a Wednesday in Jan
& they'd still wipe the floor with the Lions if they were put on Live on a Friday night in June.

difference much
yep
in the respective popularities of the sports in SE QLD there is .........

Subscription rates in QLD are higher than VIC SA WA TAS. The QLD game would be televised to QLD and a few other interested markets so the proportion of viewers from QLD would be higher than 10%.

AFL games suffer from a longer TV coverage because the audience is averaged over 3 hrs. Its also fairly well acknoledged that RL is better suited to TV and AFL to live at the game.

To say the difference in interest is purely the difference in ratings is wrong.

I didn't say 10% .. I said 15%

& subscription rates are about 24% in QLD .... add another 5K
but we're........... still........... not anywhere near the NRL SE QLD teams
better live eh ?

that'd be why the Lions crowds dropped by 33% in 2011 .... & Thuns members are less interested by about the same % for 2012 so far too
seems they don't have the bug eh

So their drop has nothing to do with on field performance?

Of course they lost fans to the suns. But together they will end up with way more than the lions ever had on their own.

[Raiderdave]

Subscription rates in QLD are higher than VIC SA WA TAS. The QLD game would be televised to QLD and a few other interested markets so the proportion of viewers from QLD would be higher than 10%.

AFL games suffer from a longer TV coverage because the audience is averaged over 3 hrs. Its also fairly well acknoledged that RL is better suited to TV and AFL to live at the game.

To say the difference in interest is purely the difference in ratings is wrong.

I didn't say 10% .. I said 15%

& subscription rates are about 24% in QLD .... add another 5K
but we're........... still........... not anywhere near the NRL SE QLD teams
better live eh ?

that'd be why the Lions crowds dropped by 33% in 2011 .... & Thuns members are less interested by about the same % for 2012 so far too
seems they don't have the bug eh

So their drop has nothing to do with on field performance?

Of course they lost fans to the suns. But together they will end up with way more than the lions ever had on their own.

I'd doubt it
theres only about 30K people motivated enough to attend AFL in SE QLD
the Lions used to have them all .... now 10K of them have gone to the Thuns

10K .... newbies ..all thuns watchers in 2011but just bandwagoners
will all drop off in the next few years ..as poor performances continue ..& as interest & the newness of that side fades
we're seeing it already
the code is just not that popular in QLD... just the way it is

meanwhile the Broncos will hit a 40K average in the coming years
& the Titans & Bombers will both be around 20K each

crystal ball predictions ova n out