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TLPG wrote:

And you are part of the problem with the world today.

Nuff said.

Families clash at trial of AFL star

POLICE were last night on the lookout for trouble in Alice Springs and in the remote community of Yuendumu after a court heard that Melbourne Demons AFL star Liam Jurrah twice led armed attacks on an "enemy" family during a night of violence in March.

The rival groups clashed outside Alice Springs Magistrates Court yesterday, hurling insults at one another in Warlpiri and forcing officers to intervene to calm the situation.

Earlier, the court heard that the Demons' leading goalkicker of last year used a machete to inflict "skull-deep" wounds on Basil Jurrah, his cousin, at Little Sisters town camp near Alice Springs. Another man, Christopher Walker, "pounded" on Basil's leg and head.

The violence in March erupted after Mr Walker allegedly shouted provocations over a death in 2010 at a nearby Warlpiri camp, according to opening statements by prosecutor Steve Robson.

Mr Robson told magistrate David Bamber that Mr Walker had approached a property known as "House 1" in Little Sisters camp, where members of a rival group were gathered.
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"He shouted to the group words to the effect of 'I'm here now, anybody want to fight me?' and 'Come and get me, I'm one of the murderers' and 'I'm going to get my family and come back'," he said.

"Later, a group returned . . . Jurrah and Walker were at the front of the approaching group (that) had formed the common intent to assault the group around the fire."

Mr Robson said Mr Jurrah had struck a man on the head with a weapon, and was involved in three other assaults, including one on a woman that caused "lacerations and bleeding".

Mr Jurrah, Mr Walker and Josiah Fry are each charged with four counts of aggravated assault, one count of unlawfully causing serious harm, and another of being armed with an offensive weapon at night.

The court heard that about 20 people launched a "stealth attack" on their "enemies" by walking across a creek in the dark, while others approached House 1 from the opposite side in a vehicle.

Witness Alan Collins said the weapons used had included nulla-nullas and axes; Esau Marshall said he had also seen rocks and knives.

Mr Collins and Mr Marshall said they and others had been drinking when the fighting broke out. They testified that they themselves had not been "full-drunk", although they said others were.

The committal hearing, set to last three days, will determine whether the matter should go to trial at the NT Supreme Court in Darwin.

eelofwest wrote:

TLPG wrote:

And you are part of the problem with the world today.

Nuff said.

This problem is evident in all codes.

Families clash at trial of AFL star

POLICE were last night on the lookout for trouble in Alice Springs and in the remote community of Yuendumu after a court heard that Melbourne Demons AFL star Liam Jurrah twice led armed attacks on an "enemy" family during a night of violence in March.

The rival groups clashed outside Alice Springs Magistrates Court yesterday, hurling insults at one another in Warlpiri and forcing officers to intervene to calm the situation.

Earlier, the court heard that the Demons' leading goalkicker of last year used a machete to inflict "skull-deep" wounds on Basil Jurrah, his cousin, at Little Sisters town camp near Alice Springs. Another man, Christopher Walker, "pounded" on Basil's leg and head.

The violence in March erupted after Mr Walker allegedly shouted provocations over a death in 2010 at a nearby Warlpiri camp, according to opening statements by prosecutor Steve Robson.

Mr Robson told magistrate David Bamber that Mr Walker had approached a property known as "House 1" in Little Sisters camp, where members of a rival group were gathered.
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"He shouted to the group words to the effect of 'I'm here now, anybody want to fight me?' and 'Come and get me, I'm one of the murderers' and 'I'm going to get my family and come back'," he said.

"Later, a group returned . . . Jurrah and Walker were at the front of the approaching group (that) had formed the common intent to assault the group around the fire."

Mr Robson said Mr Jurrah had struck a man on the head with a weapon, and was involved in three other assaults, including one on a woman that caused "lacerations and bleeding".

Mr Jurrah, Mr Walker and Josiah Fry are each charged with four counts of aggravated assault, one count of unlawfully causing serious harm, and another of being armed with an offensive weapon at night.

The court heard that about 20 people launched a "stealth attack" on their "enemies" by walking across a creek in the dark, while others approached House 1 from the opposite side in a vehicle.

Witness Alan Collins said the weapons used had included nulla-nullas and axes; Esau Marshall said he had also seen rocks and knives.

Mr Collins and Mr Marshall said they and others had been drinking when the fighting broke out. They testified that they themselves had not been "full-drunk", although they said others were.

The committal hearing, set to last three days, will determine whether the matter should go to trial at the NT Supreme Court in Darwin.

King-Eliagh wrote:

Ok TLPG another hypothetical for you.

A close family member is being severely physically abused. Do you

a) step back and reach into your pocket for your mobile phone to call the police who will more than likely take 20-30mins to arrive on the scene.

or

b) step in and impose yourself physically and violently to help

King-Eliagh wrote:

I'd argue its an Australian cultural issue more than an 'Indigenous' issue Xman.

All the same this thread is about violence within sport. the NRL understands its inevitable. The AFL dont. 4 weeks pfffft. Stop the mollycoddling in the AFL and let the players have their say!

TLPG wrote:

King-Eliagh wrote:

Ok TLPG another hypothetical for you.

A close family member is being severely physically abused. Do you

a) step back and reach into your pocket for your mobile phone to call the police who will more than likely take 20-30mins to arrive on the scene.

or

b) step in and impose yourself physically and violently to help

A.

Because B will land me in jail.

Xman wrote:

King-Eliagh wrote:

I'd argue its an Australian cultural issue more than an 'Indigenous' issue Xman.

All the same this thread is about violence within sport. the NRL understands its inevitable. The AFL dont. 4 weeks pfffft. Stop the mollycoddling in the AFL and let the players have their say!

The AFL have addressed t long ago and all but eradicated deliberate crude acts of violence. All that's really left are acts of carelessness which are also dealt with harshly in order to teach players duty of care.

King-Eliagh wrote:

TLPG wrote:

King-Eliagh wrote:

Ok TLPG another hypothetical for you.

A close family member is being severely physically abused. Do you

a) step back and reach into your pocket for your mobile phone to call the police who will more than likely take 20-30mins to arrive on the scene.

or

b) step in and impose yourself physically and violently to help

A.

Because B will land me in jail.

TLPG, I'm shocked! I and most other human beings on this planet would take option b. In fact I'm sure there's a law about stopping bystanders/witnesses to crimes from not stepping in to discourage the act.

I certainly hope you're doing what you often appear to do here i.e. providing false information to support your cause in this argument?

King-Eliagh wrote:

Xman wrote:

King-Eliagh wrote:

I'd argue its an Australian cultural issue more than an 'Indigenous' issue Xman.

All the same this thread is about violence within sport. the NRL understands its inevitable. The AFL dont. 4 weeks pfffft. Stop the mollycoddling in the AFL and let the players have their say!

The AFL have addressed t long ago and all but eradicated deliberate crude acts of violence. All that's really left are acts of carelessness which are also dealt with harshly in order to teach players duty of care.

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you're joking right?

Good one!

King-Eliagh wrote:

I cant believe you'd stand back and calmly watch a family member being seriously abused. Now tell the truth TLPG. You'd step in and by all means possible save your family member from serious physical harm or death. And you'd do this because you know full well that the time it takes to seriously injure someon would be quicker than the time it would take for you to stand back find your phone, dial 000, explain to them whats happening, and then wait for the help to arrive.

Tell the truth now TLPG.

King-Eliagh wrote:

http://www.AFL.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

There's about five in there, rough and intentional acts of violence including Judd's intentional dislocation of a players shoulder. And that's just from round 16. Don't you look the buffoon Xman

And please do feel free to comeback with your usual subjective contortion of the facts i.e. "they should not be considered crude acts of violence"

Fact is they're violent, intentional and I'd say the fact the AFL banned these players for a number of weeks means they should be considered as 'crude' also.

Crude: 2. Lacking tact or taste; blunt or offensive:

Yes Xman believe all you like that the AFL has all but eradicated crude acts of violence but please do so with the knowledge you will be viewed as 'the talking footy buffoon'.