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Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:32 am
by Topper
Xman wrote:
Where exactly did I say that?

Your comprehension skills are breathtakingly low!
That's another reason why he's nothing more than a burp machine!

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:03 pm
by enarelle
Yes the retreat to the dollars - a safe haven. A number of reasons why the AFL would get the dollars it got -one main one would be they will play an extra game each round this year. Of course they are paying $30m a year to provide that ((AFL figures).

We will just have to wait and see what the NRL gets but with a lower cost model anywhere in the vicinity of $1b and they wont know what to do with themselves.

Of course TV ratings and TV deals are somewhat different things so always interesting to watch the AFL crew get to the dollars sanctuary when the ratings war is being lost.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:29 pm
by Xman
enarelle wrote:
Yes the retreat to the dollars - a safe haven. A number of reasons why the AFL would get the dollars it got -one main one would be they will play an extra game each round this year. Of course they are paying $30m a year to provide that ((AFL figures).

We will just have to wait and see what the NRL gets but with a lower cost model anywhere in the vicinity of $1b and they wont know what to do with themselves.

Of course TV ratings and TV deals are somewhat different things so always interesting to watch the AFL crew get to the dollars sanctuary when the ratings war is being lost.
Not sure its a 'retreat'. More a reality check. The ratings are samples. The best indication of whether a product is popular on TV is the amount the networks will pay. They clearly like the AFL a lot!

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:56 pm
by enarelle
Ratings is one of the key things if not the key thing they use to work out dollars. Things like length of coverage(AFL advantage) and how much product also important. These are businessman. The bottom line is that the AFL/NRL out rate all other sports and dominate FTA.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:04 pm
by Xman
enarelle wrote:
Ratings is one of the key things if not the key thing they use to work out dollars. Things like length of coverage(AFL advantage) and how much product also important. These are businessman. The bottom line is that the AFL/NRL out rate all other sports and dominate FTA.
SO dollars are related to ratings. Got it!

No wonder the AFL got so much money!

DO you think the NRL will get that much? How much do you think they will get then? Why?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:21 pm
by Topper
enarelle wrote:
Ratings is one of the key things if not the key thing they use to work out dollars. Things like length of coverage(AFL advantage) and how much product also important. These are businessman.
....who are far more interested in metropolitan ratings than regional ratings because they know the latter is full of holes.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:47 pm
by enarelle
Topper do you have any evidence that supports such a view? Any a comment from anyone in TV World? The TV stations put all the cost and work into regional ratings just to keep score **** themselves?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:52 pm
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:
Beaussie wrote:
enarelle wrote:
"Culmative" is just further proof that things "add up" differently in the alternate AFL world. Some cannot spell it and at least one does not know what it means.
Mythbusted :wink:
NRL cannot kick broadcast rights can for as much as AFL

by: James Chessell
From:The Australian
June 25, 201112:00AM

ON any rational analysis, the NRL's media rights are not worth as much as the AFL's.

This will not stop many members of the extended rugby league family - including the odd commentator and club chairman - from making unrealistic claims about the the game's value. But strip away the emotion, ideology and historic grievances and you are left with good news and bad news as far as the NRL broadcast rights are concerned.

There are several reasons why the NRL is less valuable. The most obvious is that a free-to-air broadcaster cannot show as many ads. This is because a game of rugby league is not only shorter but contains less tries than goals and therefore fewer breaks in play.

While AFL is not big in NSW or Queensland, it is a more national game, which is important. For example, a company such as Telstra will always pay more for mobile and internet (IPTV) rights if it can market them across the country. Having the AFL is often the reason Seven finishes the week on top for all mainland capital cities combined.

National reach counts. NRL tragics talk about the code's Sydney and Brisbane audiences - which are very strong - but they forget that both AFL grand finals last year outrated the NRL equivalent (2.8 million and 2.7 million v 2.1 million) for the capital cities. Last year's NRL finals games averaged almost 700,000 metro viewers compared with more than 900,000 per AFL finals game, according to Goldman Sachs. These are the numbers FTA broadcasters care about. Not curious "cumulative audience" figures quoted in some newspapers (including The Australian) in March.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sp ... 6081603237

There you go enarelle

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:06 pm
by enarelle
Another example of one. Not even sure of what bona fides this guy has. I will stick with the pros advising the NRL that see a $1b to $1.4b offering. That will do nicely

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:10 pm
by Xman
enarelle wrote:
Another example of one. Not even sure of what bona fides this guy has. I will stick with the pros advising the NRL that see a $1b to $1.4b offering. That will do nicely
so you beleive 1b to 1.4b?

Dont you think the people making these guesses are involved in the process so they have a vested interest?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:52 pm
by Raiderdave
enarelle wrote:
Another example of one. Not even sure of what bona fides this guy has. I will stick with the pros advising the NRL that see a $1b to $1.4b offering. That will do nicely

same bloke said the AFL wouldn't get a billion

hows his form ?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:59 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:
enarelle wrote:
Another example of one. Not even sure of what bona fides this guy has. I will stick with the pros advising the NRL that see a $1b to $1.4b offering. That will do nicely
so you beleive 1b to 1.4b?

Dont you think the people making these guesses are involved in the process so they have a vested interest?

a tad less this time round is the most likely outcome ...but a remote chance at beating the flogball deal if we creatively break up our code for broadcasters
we have something other then a domestic club comp don't ya know

& most certainly a bigger deal after this one to be done this year
1.5 Billion plus for 2018-22

anything else you need to be worried about ? :wink:

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:42 pm
by Topper
enarelle wrote:
Topper do you have any evidence that supports such a view? Any a comment from anyone in TV World? The TV stations put all the cost and work into regional ratings just to keep score **** themselves?
What work into regional ratings? The majority of the Australian population is in the metropolitan areas. That is where any good TV business plan will concentrate.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:55 am
by enarelle
A good business plan will look to Maximilien it returns from any market it can find. While they obviously focus on the metro it remains that 30% of our population lives outside the metro. No business is going to ignore that large a part of the total Australian market

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:49 am
by Topper
It will if it's spread as far as it is. It's just not worth the expense.