Talking Footy

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:15 pm

Oh dear .

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:35 pm

If you had a brain or something resembling it you could see that to try to use 2 USA sports that play nowhere near the same amount of games as each other & try to use as some sort of comparison to AFL & RL which play the same season .....same time slots a lot of the time & nearly the same amount of games is not even in te same ballpark .
It's laughable
It's not even close to te same .
But you go to These insane & I mean that literally lengths to try to justify your arguments .
Get help

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:42 pm

SportCapital wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:37 am

Terry wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:19 am

Ok here we go........again!!!!! Pal, the incontrovertable fact is that in 2018 RL had around 20 million more viewers than AFL. In that figure I am using NRL, SOO and a few International games that add up to the exact same number of games in the AFL season, finals included. PLEASE NOTE - the same number of games. A pretty fair comparison I would say.

That is a monumental win to RL. As such it could be fairly said that RL is the most popular sport on Australian TV in 2018.

You argue that the cumulative number is not representative of the actual popularity of a code. Good luck with that one pal!!!!!

You then give us a myriad of excuses why the AFL could, should, maybe, get bigger ratings. Most are around scheduling. Some of your points may be correct. The fact remains though that RL thrashed the AFL this year. The only way to prove your point is to get Gilty to change the scheduling & see what any perceived increase would be. He won't do it.....so tough titties. The facts are the facts.

Conversely the NRL only has the home ratings for 15 teams. NZ ratings this year increased by 40%. Over the season that's about another 7 million viewers in total. That's an actual fact.....not a could, should or maybe.

You can and will continue to tell us that the AFL wins most Fridays and finals and that 'proves' they are the most popular code. You are right that on balance more people watch AFL than RL on Friday's & finals. However the numbers and averages over the year, taking in RL's 3 tiers, proves RL is the easy winner.

It's facts v could, should, maybe. The codes have different structures and viewing patterns. AFL do well on Fridays. RL go stupendously with SOO, are very strong with Internationals and have great domestic (NRL) numbers.

(Having said that the NRL comp alone, with many less games, outrated the AFL season for the first time in many years.)

You can and will continue on and on and on with your excuses, theories and spurious comparisons. It won't change the facts.

I will not be going round and round the goldfish bowl with you about this again......it's been done to death pal. Let's just say you can stick to your if, but's and maybe's and I'll stick to the cold hard facts.

Another cold hard fact Terry.
By claiming a 20mil viewers win, your actually saying in reality it's only about 6500 more logs of an Oztam box.
Another way to see it is about half the average crowd at one NRL game.

Stop deflecting onto crowds ..you seem to have a habit of it . .

You ignored my last post where you ranted about Rating boxes .
Cold hard fact is that media companies spend billions of $$$ on what results these boxes provide.

You ignored that ..why.

Oh that's right the AFL fan agenda .
Can't accept that your sport gets smashed by another so make excuse after excuse .
Or try to downplay the way ratings are assessed .

An old ploy .laughable ..but understandable .
You don't have anything else .

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:12 pm

Gold .Gold .Gold
RL

NlolRL wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:46 pm

Terry wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:40 pm

Well folks here we have exhibit A as to why this site is struggling. How many times do we have to have this argument? For the sake of sanity lets just say there are differing....ummmm…...'opinions' on this matter and maybe, just maybe move on. Anything other than that is just plain and utter idiocy.

I fear we are heading straight back to the:

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the point of this site is to discuss such topics. You guys just cant argue beyond "cumulative ratings equals most popular".

I made a perfectly good post showing how scheduling on one day greatly affects cumulative ratings and all you hear is crickets. There's no attempt to argue my points, all you return to is "but the cumulative ratings......"

FFS, even biassed old Masters acknowledged the cumulative ratings do not account for the AFLs scheduling disadvantages.

The average free-to-air audience for the NRL was 600,181 in 2018, compared to 307,793 for the AFL (down 13 per cent on 2017), acknowledging that the AFL has cross-over timeslots and doesn’t go free to air with the same games nationally.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-tr ... 502u1.html

Terry wrote: Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:20 pm

NlolRL wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:46 pm

Terry wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:40 pm

Well folks here we have exhibit A as to why this site is struggling. How many times do we have to have this argument? For the sake of sanity lets just say there are differing....ummmm…...'opinions' on this matter and maybe, just maybe move on. Anything other than that is just plain and utter idiocy.

I fear we are heading straight back to the:

gold.jpg

the point of this site is to discuss such topics. You guys just cant argue beyond "cumulative ratings equals most popular".

I made a perfectly good post showing how scheduling on one day greatly affects cumulative ratings and all you hear is crickets. There's no attempt to argue my points, all you return to is "but the cumulative ratings......"

FFS, even biassed old Masters acknowledged the cumulative ratings do not account for the AFLs scheduling disadvantages.

The average free-to-air audience for the NRL was 600,181 in 2018, compared to 307,793 for the AFL (down 13 per cent on 2017), acknowledging that the AFL has cross-over timeslots and doesn’t go free to air with the same games nationally.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-tr ... 502u1.html

Masters said nothing of the sort ya first class dill!!! He merely stated the facts of AFL scheduling. Read the headline of the article: NRL TRUMPS AFL IN TV RATINGS WAR. There's ya story pal.

When you have to distort facts and tell lies you have lost the argument. And you lost this argument a long long time ago.

And don't come back with ya lame, 'you won't argue my points' BS. This issue has been argued, debated, hashed, re-hashed and scrutinised over and over day after day week after week with the same BS every time.

If you have short term memory problems just print out some of the posts about this and stick it on ya fridge. And every time you get the urge to post about it AGAIN read the posts and don't bother.

What this site needs is for issues to be shut down when they have been done to death. You are never going to believe reality and I am never going to believe your fantasy. End of story. Close down this never ending goldfish bowl argument. 2018 is over. It's run and won. 2019 is another year.

Terry wrote: Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:20 pm

NlolRL wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:46 pm

Terry wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:40 pm

Well folks here we have exhibit A as to why this site is struggling. How many times do we have to have this argument? For the sake of sanity lets just say there are differing....ummmm…...'opinions' on this matter and maybe, just maybe move on. Anything other than that is just plain and utter idiocy.

I fear we are heading straight back to the:

gold.jpg

the point of this site is to discuss such topics. You guys just cant argue beyond "cumulative ratings equals most popular".

I made a perfectly good post showing how scheduling on one day greatly affects cumulative ratings and all you hear is crickets. There's no attempt to argue my points, all you return to is "but the cumulative ratings......"

FFS, even biassed old Masters acknowledged the cumulative ratings do not account for the AFLs scheduling disadvantages.

The average free-to-air audience for the NRL was 600,181 in 2018, compared to 307,793 for the AFL (down 13 per cent on 2017), acknowledging that the AFL has cross-over timeslots and doesn’t go free to air with the same games nationally.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-tr ... 502u1.html

Masters said nothing of the sort ya first class dill!!! He merely stated the facts of AFL scheduling. Read the headline of the article: NRL TRUMPS AFL IN TV RATINGS WAR. There's ya story pal.

When you have to distort facts and tell lies you have lost the argument. And you lost this argument a long long time ago.

And don't come back with ya lame, 'you won't argue my points' BS. This issue has been argued, debated, hashed, re-hashed and scrutinised over and over day after day week after week with the same BS every time.

If you have short term memory problems just print out some of the posts about this and stick it on ya fridge. And every time you get the urge to post about it AGAIN read the posts and don't bother.

What this site needs is for issues to be shut down when they have been done to death. You are never going to believe reality and I am never going to believe your fantasy. End of story. Close down this never ending goldfish bowl argument. 2018 is over. It's run and won. 2019 is another year.

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:06 pm

Doesn't go FTA with same games nationally .
Lol is that because they target home markets to maximise the ratings .

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