Talking Footy

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

The football departments can not be put in the same category, the Broncos look after the Broncos while the Storm looks after Victorian RL (VFL).

It's not that hard to understand, really, it's not.

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

The football departments can not be put in the same category, the Broncos look after the Broncos while the Storm looks after Victorian RL (VFL).

It's not that hard to understand, really, it's not.

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Yes they do you dickhead.

Xman wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Yes they do you dickhead.

Prove it

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Xman wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Yes they do you dickhead.

Prove it

Why don't you stfu mr never backs anything up/cuts posts to suit agenda blah blah blah.

Stewie wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

The football departments can not be put in the same category, the Broncos look after the Broncos while the Storm looks after Victorian RL (VFL).

It's not that hard to understand, really, it's not.

so you're saying the Storm basically bankroll the VRL? Proof?

Stewie wrote:

Storm2013 wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Wow, so many things wrong in that post in so little words . Correction time.

I said the Storm were a tiny club in comparison with the Broncos, which is true.

Collingwood make their own money through a huge membership base, massive crowds and big sponsorships. No money whatsoever comes from private owners because they're a member owned club, unlike the Storm.

The Storm's average crowd went down by 2,000 in 2012 despite making the prelim in 2011 and winning the grand final in 2012. Their fan base is in fact shrinking!

Like i said stewie that is like comparing (lions and collingwood) apples with bananas thats how silly your statement is. Storm are fully owned by news ltd and broncos aren't. broncos are a 1 city team atm in a rl state where storm battle against 9-10 AFL teams.

Collingwood make thier money from memberships, crowds and sponsors and for the storm all those same money spinners offset the money news ltd put in if any towards their footy department. So i guess its quite convenient you choose to use your owners money (members) but then in the same breathe disregard the news ltd money (owners). double standards much???

Whether you agree on the private ownership business structure or not you cannot admit that it is a bad thing. if im not mistaken WAFC is owned by a indian consortium AKA west cost and fremantle?? and then there are little clubs around the world called Arsenal, Chelsea, and NFL teams that all seem to do pretty well! just because in your little AFL world the majority of AFL clubs dont do it, doesnt mean its not a way profitable way of structuring a club.

Xman wrote:

As I've said the Storm are tiny compared to the Broncos but the Storm still manage to out spend the Broncos on their football department by million! Yes the Lions are tiny compared to Collingwood, but who spends more on their football department? Yep, Collingwood. If the nRL did not have a private ownership structure then they would not be able to spend more on their footy dept than Brisbane Broncos, that's the point. Private ownership for some clubs but not others creates a flawed league.

Xman wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Xman wrote:

Prove it

Why don't you stfu mr never backs anything up/cuts posts to suit agenda blah blah blah.

Because your claims are far fetched at best. So no, I'm not just believing you. Show us proof

Storm2013 wrote:

Stewie wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

The football departments can not be put in the same category, the Broncos look after the Broncos while the Storm looks after Victorian RL (VFL).

It's not that hard to understand, really, it's not.

so you're saying the Storm basically bankroll the VRL? Proof?

Stewie wrote:

Storm2013 wrote:

Like i said stewie that is like comparing (lions and collingwood) apples with bananas thats how silly your statement is. Storm are fully owned by news ltd and broncos aren't. broncos are a 1 city team atm in a rl state where storm battle against 9-10 AFL teams.

Collingwood make thier money from memberships, crowds and sponsors and for the storm all those same money spinners offset the money news ltd put in if any towards their footy department. So i guess its quite convenient you choose to use your owners money (members) but then in the same breathe disregard the news ltd money (owners). double standards much???

Whether you agree on the private ownership business structure or not you cannot admit that it is a bad thing. if im not mistaken WAFC is owned by a indian consortium AKA west cost and fremantle?? and then there are little clubs around the world called Arsenal, Chelsea, and NFL teams that all seem to do pretty well! just because in your little AFL world the majority of AFL clubs dont do it, doesnt mean its not a way profitable way of structuring a club.

As I've said the Storm are tiny compared to the Broncos but the Storm still manage to out spend the Broncos on their football department by million! Yes the Lions are tiny compared to Collingwood, but who spends more on their football department? Yep, Collingwood. If the nRL did not have a private ownership structure then they would not be able to spend more on their footy dept than Brisbane Broncos, that's the point. Private ownership for some clubs but not others creates a flawed league.

lol stewie you say it is flawed because it gives clubs with little funds and low membership base a chance to compete with big clubs like the broncos??? really stewie that sounds a pretty fair system to me. Thats why in AFL you can bet there will be a couple of floggings every week. clubs will never be able to compete in the AFL until the differances between the most and least shrink.

Storm2013 wrote:

Stewie wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

The football departments can not be put in the same category, the Broncos look after the Broncos while the Storm looks after Victorian RL (VFL).

It's not that hard to understand, really, it's not.

so you're saying the Storm basically bankroll the VRL? Proof?

Stewie wrote:

Storm2013 wrote:

Like i said stewie that is like comparing (lions and collingwood) apples with bananas thats how silly your statement is. Storm are fully owned by news ltd and broncos aren't. broncos are a 1 city team atm in a rl state where storm battle against 9-10 AFL teams.

Collingwood make thier money from memberships, crowds and sponsors and for the storm all those same money spinners offset the money news ltd put in if any towards their footy department. So i guess its quite convenient you choose to use your owners money (members) but then in the same breathe disregard the news ltd money (owners). double standards much???

Whether you agree on the private ownership business structure or not you cannot admit that it is a bad thing. if im not mistaken WAFC is owned by a indian consortium AKA west cost and fremantle?? and then there are little clubs around the world called Arsenal, Chelsea, and NFL teams that all seem to do pretty well! just because in your little AFL world the majority of AFL clubs dont do it, doesnt mean its not a way profitable way of structuring a club.

As I've said the Storm are tiny compared to the Broncos but the Storm still manage to out spend the Broncos on their football department by million! Yes the Lions are tiny compared to Collingwood, but who spends more on their football department? Yep, Collingwood. If the nRL did not have a private ownership structure then they would not be able to spend more on their footy dept than Brisbane Broncos, that's the point. Private ownership for some clubs but not others creates a flawed league.

lol stewie you say it is flawed because it gives clubs with little funds and low membership base a chance to compete with big clubs like the broncos??? really stewie that sounds a pretty fair system to me. Thats why in AFL you can bet there will be a couple of floggings every week. clubs will never be able to compete in the AFL until the differances between the most and least shrink.

Xman wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Why don't you stfu mr never backs anything up/cuts posts to suit agenda blah blah blah.

Because your claims are far fetched at best. So no, I'm not just believing you. Show us proof

Xman and Stewie, i had to spend all of 5 mins trying to find some info. Nrl clubs keep the finacials reasonable close to their chest so specific numbers are hard to get but i think these couple links might "shut ya guts".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_league_in_Victoria

This link shows that between 2005-2009 23 million was spent on vrl by the melbourne storm so its pretty reasonable to expect that more has been spent from 2010-12/13.
http://www.melbournestorm.com.au/news-d ... side/66874

nothing more needs to be said really!!

$23 million has been invested by the Melbourne Storm and its partners in promoting and developing rugby league in Victoria since 2005

Stewie wrote:

Storm2013 wrote:

Stewie wrote:

so you're saying the Storm basically bankroll the VRL? Proof?

Stewie wrote:

As I've said the Storm are tiny compared to the Broncos but the Storm still manage to out spend the Broncos on their football department by million! Yes the Lions are tiny compared to Collingwood, but who spends more on their football department? Yep, Collingwood. If the nRL did not have a private ownership structure then they would not be able to spend more on their footy dept than Brisbane Broncos, that's the point. Private ownership for some clubs but not others creates a flawed league.

lol stewie you say it is flawed because it gives clubs with little funds and low membership base a chance to compete with big clubs like the broncos??? really stewie that sounds a pretty fair system to me. Thats why in AFL you can bet there will be a couple of floggings every week. clubs will never be able to compete in the AFL until the differances between the most and least shrink.

It's flawed because a small club like the Storm has access to millions more dollars than other clubs like the Broncos, that they didn't even generate themselves. Because you're a Storm fan you're obviously too blind to see how ridiculous the nRL's private ownership structure is. If I was a Broncos fan I would be spewing at the fact that the small Storm spend millions more on their football dept than the Broncos do, despite them having triple the Storm's crowds and double their membership base.

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Storm2013 wrote:

lol stewie you say it is flawed because it gives clubs with little funds and low membership base a chance to compete with big clubs like the broncos??? really stewie that sounds a pretty fair system to me. Thats why in AFL you can bet there will be a couple of floggings every week. clubs will never be able to compete in the AFL until the differances between the most and least shrink.

It's flawed because a small club like the Storm has access to millions more dollars than other clubs like the Broncos, that they didn't even generate themselves. Because you're a Storm fan you're obviously too blind to see how ridiculous the nRL's private ownership structure is. If I was a Broncos fan I would be spewing at the fact that the small Storm spend millions more on their football dept than the Broncos do, despite them having triple the Storm's crowds and double their membership base.

spewie crying things aren't fair because his football club... despite having 3 times the members & 50% bigger crowds .. & not having 10 other clubs from a stronger code to compete with in its home city ... like the Storm do ..... is STILL broke , skint .. pennyless .... dead set don't know where their next dime is coming from
& privately owned Storm is not


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Stewie wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

It's flawed because a small club like the Storm has access to millions more dollars than other clubs like the Broncos, that they didn't even generate themselves. Because you're a Storm fan you're obviously too blind to see how ridiculous the nRL's private ownership structure is. If I was a Broncos fan I would be spewing at the fact that the small Storm spend millions more on their football dept than the Broncos do, despite them having triple the Storm's crowds and double their membership base.

spewie crying things aren't fair because his football club... despite having 3 times the members & 50% bigger crowds .. & not having 10 other clubs from a stronger code to compete with in its home city ... like the Storm do ..... is STILL broke , skint .. pennyless .... dead set don't know where their next dime is coming from
& privately owned Storm is not


whaaaaaaa
whaaaaaaaaaaa

Just imagine if Port's stadium deal was as good as the Raiders who only need 10k to break even (yet still make a $200,000 loss )

Things will change in 2014 though