NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

[pussycat]

The AFL reward the clubs who make the 8 the previous year with more Friday night games. Plus we have Saturday night live too. It's therefore evenly shared amongst clubs over a number of years. The NrL show the Broncos almost exclusively no matter where they finish, to the detriment of many other NRL teams.

All for ratings, nothing for the smaller clubs struggling for exposure. Any wonder why the raiders struggled for sponsors

Your Hypocracy is laughable, Canberra were shown at least twice of a Friday night this year(more than 4-5 of your teams). A couple of times on Sunday and every week on Fox. And just like your clubs more success will result in more TV coverage.

How often do WA see a WA game ? every week?

Every week but they dont own Friday night! That's the difference. The majority of AFL teams are on FTA every week but the biggest game is Friday night and this is shared between the successful clubs of the year before.

Yet the majority of NRL teams are not on FTA every week, except the broncos who own Friday night, the biggest stage. Why? To maximise ratings and nothing else. And teams like the raiders get left behind.

Rugby League has 3 tv games , 2 just happen to be of a Friday night. 1 just happens to be a Qld game. Just like in AFL one is a WA game. And Brisbane arn't shown in tha Qld timeslot everyweek. They just happen to be the most succesful of the Qld teams.

[piesman2011]

Your Hypocracy is laughable, Canberra were shown at least twice of a Friday night this year(more than 4-5 of your teams). A couple of times on Sunday and every week on Fox. And just like your clubs more success will result in more TV coverage.

How often do WA see a WA game ? every week?

Every week but they dont own Friday night! That's the difference. The majority of AFL teams are on FTA every week but the biggest game is Friday night and this is shared between the successful clubs of the year before.

Yet the majority of NRL teams are not on FTA every week, except the broncos who own Friday night, the biggest stage. Why? To maximise ratings and nothing else. And teams like the raiders get left behind.

Rugby League has 3 tv games , 2 just happen to be of a Friday night. 1 just happens to be a Qld game. Just like in AFL one is a WA game. And Brisbane arn't shown in tha Qld timeslot everyweek. They just happen to be the most succesful of the Qld teams.

What do you mean by this? One friday night game is a WA game? If so that is not the case. AFL only has one friday night game and it usually doesn't involved a WA team. Feel free to explain.

[piesman2011]

All states except Vic get to see their clubs live on FTA every week. Most of the time it is not on friday night. In terms of exposure on TV the AFL clubs get a much better deal. This may affect their gate intake but at least they get exposure.

[piesman2011]

So 1 FTA game for a top 8 team. AFL clubs would never put up with that sort of deal. With almost half of your games televised on FTA TV you should expect that you get at least 6 games televised out of 24 (one quarter) For a top 8 team they should be getting about half of their games televised. Out of the 72 games in regular season they have 1 televised. This means that the Raiders feature in less then 1.5% of FTA games.

Correct me if i'm wrong , but arent GWS and Gold coast barred from Friday nights? I also can recall showing some figures showing that12months ago showing how near half the AFL clubs had got fewer than 10 matches of a Friday night over the previous 4 years. Melbourne and Nth Melbourne didn't get much more than one.

Bottom 4 (5) teams I believe will not be on friday night next year. But they all get good exposure on FTA TV with the GWS, and GC always being shown live in their respective markets. Even Melbourne and Western bulldogs will get plenty of FTA exposure on Saturdays and sundays.

[Raiderdave]

Ah no. The Raiders made a loss like 15 other NRL clubs

The Raiders business arm made a profit and only supplied a small amount to the Raiders NRL club meaning they relied on ACT government and NRL grants to survive.

Now theres a good business model!!

Collingwood have the funds to spend 5 times the money the Raiders do on their club.

Hmm, Raiders are better off though!

ah no gumby .... the Raiders football operation made a tiny loss of 200K
its other business's made a 3.6 Million dollar profit
thats right .. its .... it owns all of the other operations , the same board controls the lot
hardly any NRL clubs can claim this .....


collinsford have 5 times the money to spend .... but also....5 times more costs then the Raiders
they're banking exactly the same amount of dough at seasons end

meanwhile....
Port Tankelaide haven't seen a deposit book for 5 years


Collinsturd ....

Collingwood have a 35M training facility across the train line from the MCG. They employ a massive contingent of support staff. They arent necessities, theyre luxuries because theyre loaded!

But the Raiders are just as well off.....even though their trying to sell home games to Perth to gain much needed revenue... Not to mention the fact theyre leaching off the AACT government for 20% of their revenue!

so do the Raiders ..... on Haydon Drive at Bruce , about 1K from Canberra Stadium.
one of the best facilities there is anywhere in Australia ....
they have another older facility in town at Braddon used mainly by their Jnr Development 16's & 18's sides
they have further playing & training facilities at kippax in Belconnen

yep... the raiders know about luxury too
they have used their profits to invest in their off field facilities

while some VFL clubs with triple the crowds .. & 4 times the members ... can't shout a round at the pub

you can cry all you want
the Raiders are a remarkable sporting franchise .... a model for others accross the land =D> =D> =D> =D>

[Raiderdave]

The AFL reward the clubs who make the 8 the previous year with more Friday night games. Plus we have Saturday night live too. It's therefore evenly shared amongst clubs over a number of years. The NrL show the Broncos almost exclusively no matter where they finish, to the detriment of many other NRL teams.

All for ratings, nothing for the smaller clubs struggling for exposure. Any wonder why the raiders struggled for sponsors

Your Hypocracy is laughable, Canberra were shown at least twice of a Friday night this year(more than 4-5 of your teams). A couple of times on Sunday and every week on Fox. And just like your clubs more success will result in more TV coverage.

How often do WA see a WA game ? every week?

Every week but they dont own Friday night! That's the difference. The majority of AFL teams are on FTA every week but the biggest game is Friday night and this is shared between the successful clubs of the year before.

Yet the majority of NRL teams are not on FTA every week, except the broncos who own Friday night, the biggest stage. Why? To maximise ratings and nothing else. And teams like the raiders get left behind.

Port Tankelaide ... 22 FTA appearances in 2012
Raiders ...... 2

Raiders post a bigger Profit then Collinsthongs
Port Tankelaide .... ahhhhh ... , can some one spot a bit of coin to pay the power bill ?

imagine if the number of FTA games was reversed

[Xman]

So 1 FTA game for a top 8 team. AFL clubs would never put up with that sort of deal. With almost half of your games televised on FTA TV you should expect that you get at least 6 games televised out of 24 (one quarter) For a top 8 team they should be getting about half of their games televised. Out of the 72 games in regular season they have 1 televised. This means that the Raiders feature in less then 1.5% of FTA games.

Correct me if i'm wrong , but arent GWS and Gold coast barred from Friday nights? I also can recall showing some figures showing that12months ago showing how near half the AFL clubs had got fewer than 10 matches of a Friday night over the previous 4 years. Melbourne and Nth Melbourne didn't get much more than one.

Bottom 4 (5) teams I believe will not be on friday night next year. But they all get good exposure on FTA TV with the GWS, and GC always being shown live in their respective markets. Even Melbourne and Western bulldogs will get plenty of FTA exposure on Saturdays and sundays.

yep, and thats the point. All AFL clubs get decent FTA exposure. The most successful ones from the year before get the pinnacle game which is Friday night. This is irrespective of who the club is and how big they are.

Meanwhile the NRL have a poor FTA deal with limited coverage of many teams. So what do they do? They let Ch9 show the Broncos almost every Friday night irrespective of their ladder position. This is at the expense of smaller teams who really need FTA exposure including the Raiders who get 1 FTA game for the entire year!

[Xman]

ah no gumby .... the Raiders football operation made a tiny loss of 200K
its other business's made a 3.6 Million dollar profit
thats right .. its .... it owns all of the other operations , the same board controls the lot
hardly any NRL clubs can claim this .....


collinsford have 5 times the money to spend .... but also....5 times more costs then the Raiders
they're banking exactly the same amount of dough at seasons end

meanwhile....
Port Tankelaide haven't seen a deposit book for 5 years


Collinsturd ....

Collingwood have a 35M training facility across the train line from the MCG. They employ a massive contingent of support staff. They arent necessities, theyre luxuries because theyre loaded!

But the Raiders are just as well off.....even though their trying to sell home games to Perth to gain much needed revenue... Not to mention the fact theyre leaching off the AACT government for 20% of their revenue!

so do the Raiders ..... on Haydon Drive at Bruce , about 1K from Canberra Stadium.
one of the best facilities there is anywhere in Australia ....
they have another older facility in town at Braddon used mainly by their Jnr Development 16's & 18's sides
they have further playing & training facilities at kippax in Belconnen

yep... the raiders know about luxury too
they have used their profits to invest in their off field facilities

while some VFL clubs with triple the crowds .. & 4 times the members ... can't shout a round at the pub

you can cry all you want
the Raiders are a remarkable sporting franchise .... a model for others accross the land =D> =D> =D> =D>

yep, luxury. Playing in a cold hole of a stadium in front of wet freezing fans....

With a total budget of 10M per year do they even have support staff or are the medical and sport science services all supplied by elderly volunteers?

[Xman]

Your Hypocracy is laughable, Canberra were shown at least twice of a Friday night this year(more than 4-5 of your teams). A couple of times on Sunday and every week on Fox. And just like your clubs more success will result in more TV coverage.

How often do WA see a WA game ? every week?

Every week but they dont own Friday night! That's the difference. The majority of AFL teams are on FTA every week but the biggest game is Friday night and this is shared between the successful clubs of the year before.

Yet the majority of NRL teams are not on FTA every week, except the broncos who own Friday night, the biggest stage. Why? To maximise ratings and nothing else. And teams like the raiders get left behind.

Port Tankelaide ... 22 FTA appearances in 2012
Raiders ...... 2

Raiders post a bigger Profit then Collinsthongs
Port Tankelaide .... ahhhhh ... , can some one spot a bit of coin to pay the power bill ?

imagine if the number of FTA games was reversed

Again with the lies. The Raiders made a loss like they do every year. Their business arm made a small profit which is hardly startling given a business is supposed to make a profit. Collingwood are not supposed to make a profit. They are a non profit organisation and spend what they earn.

[pussycat]

Every week but they dont own Friday night! That's the difference. The majority of AFL teams are on FTA every week but the biggest game is Friday night and this is shared between the successful clubs of the year before.

Yet the majority of NRL teams are not on FTA every week, except the broncos who own Friday night, the biggest stage. Why? To maximise ratings and nothing else. And teams like the raiders get left behind.

Rugby League has 3 tv games , 2 just happen to be of a Friday night. 1 just happens to be a Qld game. Just like in AFL one is a WA game. And Brisbane arn't shown in tha Qld timeslot everyweek. They just happen to be the most succesful of the Qld teams.

What do you mean by this? One friday night game is a WA game? If so that is not the case. AFL only has one friday night game and it usually doesn't involved a WA team. Feel free to explain.[/quote]


What i am saying is that WA gets a game(exclusive to WA) each week, just like Qld does. Regardless of what night its on.

The3 NRL has 3 time slots

1 best game
2.Qld game
3. next best game.

Brisbane just happeen to fall into one of those time slots most weeks - usually 1 or 2 , both of these slots just happen to be on a Frideay night.

[Xman]

Thats not the same thing. Our FN is share amongst the successful (not biggest) teams. Yours is locked in for the Broncos with limited FtA exposure on other days or for other teams.

[pussycat]

Thats not the same thing. Our FN is share amongst the successful (not biggest) teams. Yours is locked in for the Broncos with limited FtA exposure on other days or for other teams.

Thats rubbish! it is the same thing EXACTLY!


How do you differentiate between biggest and most successful? If Collingwood finished last in the previous season would you still expect them to domiate the number 1 time slot?

[Xman]

Thats not the same thing. Our FN is share amongst the successful (not biggest) teams. Yours is locked in for the Broncos with limited FtA exposure on other days or for other teams.

Thats rubbish! it is the same thing EXACTLY!

Im sure the raiders think that! They made the finals last year yet have 1 FTA game this year! Is iit even on a Friday night?

Whats wrong with showing the Broncos on Sunday? It limits ch9s ratings thats why.

So TV money over fair exposure.....pathetic..

Imagine if CH7 demanded the Eagles played against the pies or bombers or Carlton every Friday night. Itd rate massive but screw many other teams over....

[Raiderdave]

Thats not the same thing. Our FN is share amongst the successful (not biggest) teams. Yours is locked in for the Broncos with limited FtA exposure on other days or for other teams.

Thats rubbish! it is the same thing EXACTLY!

Im sure the raiders think that! They made the finals last year yet have 1 FTA game this year! Is iit even on a Friday night?

Whats wrong with showing the Broncos on Sunday? It limits ch9s ratings thats why.

So TV money over fair exposure.....pathetic..

Imagine if CH7 demanded the Eagles played against the pies or bombers or Carlton every Friday night. Itd rate massive but screw many other teams over....

hmmmmm
the NRL excludes some of its teams from the highly sought after Friday Night TV slot

&

so does the VFL

yep pussycat
yr spot on pal ....
there isn't any difference

[Xman]

No Dave, wrong again....

No one is excluded from AFL's FTA coverage. In fact teams in SA WA NSW and QLD are show on FTA every week. The highly sort after friday night spot is shared amongst the last years best teams.

nRL, slaves to ch9