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Well 1/3rd of the population can watch the early game. If fans were going to chose the 8pm game would always win out because it's FTA and in a more friendly viewing time slot. Therefore it's clearly going to be the choice of the 2 games.
Was there more to the deal than the reported 1.8b?leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:00 pmoh ok... thanksSportCapital wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:41 pmIt's actually 56m more per season. 50m was a nice round number.leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:01 pmSportsCaptial >>> where did you get the AFL get 50mill per year..
i was of the assumption it was only 20mill per season...?
you got to remember the NRL deal is 5 years the AFL is 6 years..
Now a Network would pay that little bit extra for an extra year of security ...
2.5b / 6 = 416m
1.8b / 5 = 360m
the deal i had counted N.Z T.V deal as the warriors are part of the league..
yes yes i know, Australian Tv Media only...
but that pushed it closer to the 2billion mark.
15 to 18 teams if not counted N.Z (plus 3 SOO games) pretty good outcome for the NRL really..
both codes dealsSportCapital wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:57 pmWas there more to the deal than the reported 1.8b?leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:00 pmoh ok... thanksSportCapital wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:41 pm
It's actually 56m more per season. 50m was a nice round number.
2.5b / 6 = 416m
1.8b / 5 = 360m
the deal i had counted N.Z T.V deal as the warriors are part of the league..
yes yes i know, Australian Tv Media only...
but that pushed it closer to the 2billion mark.
15 to 18 teams if not counted N.Z (plus 3 SOO games) pretty good outcome for the NRL really..
We acknowledge it all the time. and then we reply, 'you get extra FTA coverage , Crows, Port, Freemantle, Swans, Suns, WCE, GWS and Lions, all being shown on FTA into there home market'. But it just goes in one ear and out the other. Then around we go again. Or sometimes a different excuse, only more fucked up than the first. Then round & round we go. Another excuse, a fucked up theory, but, but, but.NlolRL wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:38 pmWell 1/3rd of the population can watch the early game. If fans were going to chose the 8pm game would always win out because it's FTA and in a more friendly viewing time slot. Therefore it's clearly going to be the choice of the 2 games.
Funny how none of you acknowledge this when we show 5 games on Saturday
Surprising, there is no figures on this.leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:31 amboth codes dealsSportCapital wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:57 pmWas there more to the deal than the reported 1.8b?leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:00 pm
oh ok... thanks
the deal i had counted N.Z T.V deal as the warriors are part of the league..
yes yes i know, Australian Tv Media only...
but that pushed it closer to the 2billion mark.
15 to 18 teams if not counted N.Z (plus 3 SOO games) pretty good outcome for the NRL really..
included
Ch9 FOX Telstra / digital rights >>> 5 year deal
Ch7 FOX Telstra / digital rights >>> 6 year deal
however both codes did not include radio deals in
as they were signed months later.
NRL did not include N.Z T.V Deal
which fetched 100million in the 2013 tv deal>> and since than tv deals have doubled.
tv figures are up.. but there is no sources suggesting how much N.Z actually paid..
well nothing i can find..
yeah it is surprising>> its very hard these days even to find NZ tv Figures..SportCapital wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:40 pmSurprising, there is no figures on this.leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:31 amboth codes deals
included
Ch9 FOX Telstra / digital rights >>> 5 year deal
Ch7 FOX Telstra / digital rights >>> 6 year deal
however both codes did not include radio deals in
as they were signed months later.
NRL did not include N.Z T.V Deal
which fetched 100million in the 2013 tv deal>> and since than tv deals have doubled.
tv figures are up.. but there is no sources suggesting how much N.Z actually paid..
well nothing i can find..
So are both deals due to expire at the same time?
and I respond with you only have 3 metro markets, 2 of which have only 1 team. We have 5 metro markets with 4 having 8 teams.pussycat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:11 pm
We acknowledge it all the time. and then we reply, 'you get extra FTA coverage , Crows, Port, Freemantle, Swans, Suns, WCE, GWS and Lions, all being shown on FTA into there home market'. But it just goes in one ear and out the other. Then around we go again. Or sometimes a different excuse, only more fucked up than the first. Then round & round we go. Another excuse, a fucked up theory, but, but, but.
Concise!NlolRL wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:57 pmWe have 1 or 2 games shown on their own, and win those almost every time. The all our other games are overlapped with other AFL games which means they rate about half their potential. Afterall, no one can watch 2 games at once, and even if you could it wouldnt be counted by OZTAM. So taking this into account the ratings are similar per round, but the NRL have more rounds, SOO and other rep games. So counting all those together means RL is ahead.
However, one point that isnt taken into account is our 9 games go over 27 hours of viewing, while their 8 games go for only 16 hours. So for an NRL fan to be counted 8 times by OZTAM over a round (ie a neutral fans watching every game) they only need to watch 2 hours on Thursday, 4 hours on Friday, 6 hours on Saturday and 4 hours on Sunday. While that's a fair bit of TV it's spread out over 4 days and therefore achievable.
For an AFL fan to be counted 9 times by OZTAM over a round (ie watching every game) they need to watch 3 hours on Friday, a whopping 15 hours on Saturday, then 9 hours on Sunday. Realistically, who is going to watch 27 hours of sport in 2 and a bit days? In fact they couldnt even do it if they tried because all but one of those games overlap with another AFL game. Therefore, the most they can watch is 18 hours which means they are only counted 6 times, not 9 times. In other words an AFL fan can watch 2 more hours of AFL over a weekend and counted as watching 2 less games, which drastically effects the season total.
For these reasons the ratings totals for the full season are completely misleading and heavily favour the NRL.
An even bigger question is which deal will be done first?leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:39 pmyeah it is surprising>> its very hard these days even to find NZ tv Figures..SportCapital wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:40 pmSurprising, there is no figures on this.leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:31 am
both codes deals
included
Ch9 FOX Telstra / digital rights >>> 5 year deal
Ch7 FOX Telstra / digital rights >>> 6 year deal
however both codes did not include radio deals in
as they were signed months later.
NRL did not include N.Z T.V Deal
which fetched 100million in the 2013 tv deal>> and since than tv deals have doubled.
tv figures are up.. but there is no sources suggesting how much N.Z actually paid..
well nothing i can find..
So are both deals due to expire at the same time?
Yes both codes deals are now aligned with the AFL doing a 6 Year Deal.
now the question is.. if you were a media Network would you pay more for a 6 year tv deal
to get that extra security of a extra year locked in.
my opinion is yes.. the big question is how much..
Not if your ratings are tanking like the AFL's are this year!SportCapital wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:06 pmAn even bigger question is which deal will be done first?leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:39 pmyeah it is surprising>> its very hard these days even to find NZ tv Figures..SportCapital wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:40 pm
Surprising, there is no figures on this.
So are both deals due to expire at the same time?
Yes both codes deals are now aligned with the AFL doing a 6 Year Deal.
now the question is.. if you were a media Network would you pay more for a 6 year tv deal
to get that extra security of a extra year locked in.
my opinion is yes.. the big question is how much..
To answer your question, "my" network would look for the longest deal possible. Paying 2018 prices for a product in 2024 sounds like a bargain to me.
The fans are up in arms about leave the game alone? You'll find most fans acknowledge the congestion issue, don't like it and want the AFL to step in.AFLcrap1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:00 pmYep if they can't fix the ugly mess that has caused the ratings to dive & the ch 7 boss to ask for rule changes then they will not get an increase .
GIl the dill has to try to change the game yet the fans are up in arms about leave the game alone
Lol he will go for the $$$$