Talking Footy

Xman wrote:

enarelle wrote:

What this? Acknowledgement that it is going to cost the AFL a fortune to sponsor a team going nowhere. Fine effort. How long will the Melbourne teams allow this?

why wouldnt they allow it? National expansion is in the best interest of the league. The Suns are already financially viable due to excellent stadium arrangment and sponsorship. Once they start winning theyll be fine. The same could have been said for the Lions and Swans years ago.

pussycat wrote:

Xman wrote:

enarelle wrote:

What this? Acknowledgement that it is going to cost the AFL a fortune to sponsor a team going nowhere. Fine effort. How long will the Melbourne teams allow this?

why wouldnt they allow it? National expansion is in the best interest of the league. The Suns are already financially viable due to excellent stadium arrangment and sponsorship. Once they start winning theyll be fine. The same could have been said for the Lions and Swans years ago.

In your dreams they might be finacially viable , but in reality they only survive on a $20m handout.

pussycat wrote:

There yearly attendaces wouldnt even pay Falou salary.

Even Andrew D. fesses up to the $20m figure, which indicates its probably more

Xman wrote:

pussycat wrote:

There yearly attendaces wouldnt even pay Falou salary.

Even Andrew D. fesses up to the $20m figure, which indicates its probably more

falou plays for the giants

Again, with more members and similar attendance numbers to the Titans, and a far better stadium deal, theyre going ok. Theyll certainly be more than self sufficient once they start winning regularly.

Drac wrote:

Most of the investment in the Suns was during their start up years, they're actually doing okay off the field now. They made a profit in their first year (not sure about 2012 yet). Off the back of the AFL investing in the stadium, the Suns have management rights. That's year round, and includes events like the Foo Fighters concert last year (word is it they made more money from the Foo Fighters concert than they did from memberships in 2011). They also have big sponsorship agreements with Virgin and Host Plus.

Giants are also doing okay sponsorship wise, but will require propping up for a while yet. Their membership and attendance isn't as strong as the Suns', and they don't have management rights at their stadium. I think where NSWRL fans see a money-pit, or a waste, AFL fans see investment in the future growth of the code. But i've probably been brainwashed by the AFL Kremlin.

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

pussycat wrote:

There yearly attendaces wouldnt even pay Falou salary.

Even Andrew D. fesses up to the $20m figure, which indicates its probably more

falou plays for the giants

Again, with more members and similar attendance numbers to the Titans, and a far better stadium deal, theyre going ok. Theyll certainly be more than self sufficient once they start winning regularly.

more cat memberships maybe ... as we know VFL memberships are a scam from one end of Aust to the other
&
attendances that are now 1000 a game behind the Titans
its funny after the VFL w@nked on delux when they were ahead last year , seemed awful quiet about it this year
no wars won ... no battles over eh Andy ?.. fact is the @rse fell out of the thuns support in 2012 as wise judges like myself said it would
if they don't get out of the bottom 4 in 2013 ( which they probably won't)... they'll fall considerably again
hell even if they get to 13th ... they won't improve their attendances that much
like i said 12 mnths ago .... lets not pee our pants after one year like marcus & his shreiking girl friend bearsy did
it will take 5 years to see who's winning wot on the Gold Coast
my prediction then .. & it still is... the Titans by a long long way

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

falou plays for the giants

Again, with more members and similar attendance numbers to the Titans, and a far better stadium deal, theyre going ok. Theyll certainly be more than self sufficient once they start winning regularly.

more cat memberships maybe ... as we know VFL memberships are a scam from one end of Aust to the other
&
attendances that are now 1000 a game behind the Titans
its funny after the VFL w@nked on delux when they were ahead last year , seemed awful quiet about it this year
no wars won ... no battles over eh Andy ?.. fact is the @rse fell out of the thuns support in 2012 as wise judges like myself said it would
if they don't get out of the bottom 4 in 2013 ( which they probably won't)... they'll fall considerably again
hell even if they get to 13th ... they won't improve their attendances that much
like i said 12 mnths ago .... lets not pee our pants after one year like marcus & his shreiking girl friend bearsy did
it will take 5 years to see who's winning wot on the Gold Coast
my prediction then .. & it still is... the Titans by a long long way

Theyll rise up the ladder in the coming seasons and so will their following. The Titans will continue to struggle financially because the NRL is too broke and stupid to set up a similar stadium arrangement to the Suns

Theyll rise up the ladder in the coming seasons and so will their following.

The Titans will continue to struggle financially because the NRL is too broke

Drac wrote:

Most of the investment in the Suns was during their start up years, they're actually doing okay off the field now. They made a profit in their first year (not sure about 2012 yet). Off the back of the AFL investing in the stadium, the Suns have management rights. That's year round, and includes events like the Foo Fighters concert last year (word is it they made more money from the Foo Fighters concert than they did from memberships in 2011). They also have big sponsorship agreements with Virgin and Host Plus.

Giants are also doing okay sponsorship wise, but will require propping up for a while yet. Their membership and attendance isn't as strong as the Suns', and they don't have management rights at their stadium. I think where NSWRL fans see a money-pit, or a waste, AFL fans see investment in the future growth of the code. But i've probably been brainwashed by the AFL Kremlin.

eelofwest wrote:

Drac wrote:

Most of the investment in the Suns was during their start up years, they're actually doing okay off the field now. They made a profit in their first year (not sure about 2012 yet). Off the back of the AFL investing in the stadium, the Suns have management rights. That's year round, and includes events like the Foo Fighters concert last year (word is it they made more money from the Foo Fighters concert than they did from memberships in 2011). They also have big sponsorship agreements with Virgin and Host Plus.

Giants are also doing okay sponsorship wise, but will require propping up for a while yet. Their membership and attendance isn't as strong as the Suns', and they don't have management rights at their stadium. I think where NSWRL fans see a money-pit, or a waste, AFL fans see investment in the future growth of the code. But i've probably been brainwashed by the AFL Kremlin.

This..

http://www.news.com.au/sport/AFL/this-i ... 6417739977

pussycat wrote:

y0ur living in a fantasy word!

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

more cat memberships maybe ... as we know VFL memberships are a scam from one end of Aust to the other
&
attendances that are now 1000 a game behind the Titans
its funny after the VFL w@nked on delux when they were ahead last year , seemed awful quiet about it this year
no wars won ... no battles over eh Andy ?.. fact is the @rse fell out of the thuns support in 2012 as wise judges like myself said it would
if they don't get out of the bottom 4 in 2013 ( which they probably won't)... they'll fall considerably again
hell even if they get to 13th ... they won't improve their attendances that much
like i said 12 mnths ago .... lets not pee our pants after one year like marcus & his shreiking girl friend bearsy did
it will take 5 years to see who's winning wot on the Gold Coast
my prediction then .. & it still is... the Titans by a long long way

Theyll rise up the ladder in the coming seasons and so will their following. The Titans will continue to struggle financially because the NRL is too broke and stupid to set up a similar stadium arrangement to the Suns

Theyll rise up the ladder in the coming seasons and so will their following.

thats your wet dream wish .. & nothing more

come to think of it .. so is this

The Titans will continue to struggle financially because the NRL is too broke

Former Canberra Raiders captain Simon Woolford has called on the ARL Commission to end the club's "ridiculous" exile from free-to-air television coverage.
In a familiar and unwanted trend, the Raiders are set to remain on the Channel Nine blacklist for the next season despite the NRL landing a $1 billion television-rights deal.
Reports emerged yesterday of the draft draw for the first 20 rounds of next year, in which the Raiders are expected to have just one match broadcast on free-to-air.
If the draw is approved, it will continue an unwanted trend of the Raiders being snubbed from the high-rating timeslots and coverage.
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Just four of the Green Machine's games were televised on Channel Nine in the past two regular seasons and teams that finished well below the Raiders on the ladder are set to get more coverage next year.
The Raiders lit up the competition with a charge to the finals this season and finished sixth on the ladder before playing a home final.
They had hoped the independent commission would change their free-to-air fortunes when it took over rugby league operations earlier this year.
"People thought a lot of things would happen for the better when the independent commission was formed, but it seems it's just continued stalling," Woolford said.
"It's ridiculous if the boys only get one free-to-air game in 20 rounds.
"I know it's all about ratings and money, but I think our boys showed the type of footy they're capable of playing and it would be nice to get more appearances [on Channel Nine]."
Channel Nine opts against showing live Raiders games to gain higher ratings in Brisbane and Sydney.
After being shunned from the traditional Friday night and Sunday afternoon timeslots, the Raiders had proposed to host a Thursday night fixture in round three.
However, it is unclear whether their wish will be granted, after reports suggested the NRL was planning a grand-final rematch between the Melbourne Storm and Canterbury Bulldogs in round three.
The Roosters and Rabbitohs will open the season on a Thursday night, while the Eels and Bulldogs will play in the new timeslot in round two.
The Raiders will return to pre-season training in the coming weeks. It's believed assistant coach Justin Morgan is unlikely to return to his role, while playmaker Terry Campese and Brett White, who both had knee reconstructions, will start training today.
Raiders prop White wanted a "fair system" for free-to-air coverage to help Canberra gain greater exposure.
"It's surprising, I realise [Channel Nine] wants the two best teams on free-to-air, but how did you pick who the best teams are this far out?" White said.
"I know the AFL share their television coverage around, you'd expect everyone to have at least two free-to-air games.
"The competition is so even ... I think we did play well at the end of the year, so I expected it would have been a fair system with everyone almost equal."
Raiders chairman John McIntyre said he had not seen the draft draw, but remained hopeful the commission would end Canberra's struggles to break into Channel Nine's programming.
"I was hoping, with the commission coming in, that the city-centric decision-making would disappear," McIntyre said.
"But we don't know what's happening yet; we'll wait to see when the draw comes out."
Woolford feared little could be done to change the schedule.
"Even the Melbourne Storm don't get their fair share of games," Woolford said.
"It's out of the Raiders' control now, they could come out and win 10 games straight and even then they're not going to get free-to-air games because they're [the NRL] locked in for the first 20 games.
"It's unfortunate ... when I was playing it was something we looked forward to and it was like a reward getting a free-to-air game. It's disappointing not to get them."