Fight Club - Football TV Ratings (AFL vs NRL)

[ParraEelsNRL]

Oops, best be putting in a link to that one aye, don't want to get into trouble

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/town ... -1.1168009

“In 2010, my business partner and I were working in Birmingham. We watched the game on Sky TV and thought what an incredible game this is – the best.

“When we returned home, without any supporters, players, kit or stadium we challenged the USA to a game. And within six weeks, we got together the players and lost the game by just one try in front of 1,200 spectators.

“From there, the game has gone from strength-to-strength.

“We are now averaging almost 7,000 for every Test and have our own TV programme ‘The Rugby League Show’ which has 90,000 viewers every week and 170,000 per Test match,” he added.

“We have excellent corporate sponsorship deals with companies such as Fosters (brewery) and Booster Juice (a giant Canadian smoothies company)

Damn, not bad after 4 years work. I can't see them putting a Toronto team into the championship in England, but I can see them joining up with the USARL in making a North American comp soon enough with the Hurricanes from Jamaica as well.

[sydneyfc]

the flight costs for a canadian team in a european competition would be over the top unless they know they can build a huge fanbase and/or have a big financial backer

a local comp sounds more realistic

it's still a way behind the a-league since not only do we have rights in this country but our tv rights are sold abroad. it would be awesome if there was somehow a way to tally up total viewers of the a-league from every country since it's now getting televised live in more countries than ever before

the aru got a lot of stick for their domestic rights deal being smaller than the previous one(not like they could expect too much, their ratings have gone backwards) but they got a huge bump from international rights out of south africa and the UK.

not saying the a-league would demand the same kind of numbers in terms of viewers or $$$ but it all adds up. would be nice if the ffa announced exactly how much they make from international rights

[ParraEelsNRL]

I didn't say it was above anything, all I said was put the a league into perspective, look at the population difference of north america to our region. In 4 years they have more viewers on TV than what some pro and semi pro sports out here are getting.

I think they should look after their own patch for a while before jumping in feet first to see if there really is an appetite for Rugby League in Canada. The USARL is finally moving forward after all the infighting, they are taking applications for next seasons comp right now, they will be running two divisions at least.

[sydneyfc]

I didn't say it was above anything, all I said was put the a league into perspective, look at the population difference of north america to our region. In 4 years they have more viewers on TV than what some pro and semi pro sports out here are getting.

I think they should look after their own patch for a while before jumping in feet first to see if there really is an appetite for Rugby League in Canada. The USARL is finally moving forward after all the infighting, they are taking applications for next seasons comp right now, they will be running two divisions at least.

i agree with the first part

don't know enough about the second bit to comment

but in the same respect, the other day you were making fun of our tv deal vs the new super league deal(that still doesn't start for a few years yet)...anyway i pointed out the population difference and how that would effect tv ratings and the worth of the rights but you shot it down, essentially claimed it doesn't matter.

the UK is nearly 3 times bigger in terms of population than australia and our $40m per year domestic deal holds its own vs the SL which will be $75m a year in 2016 or 2017 whatever it was...personally i think it does even more than just holding it's own. but that's just my opinion

[ParraEelsNRL]

That again, it's 2014, the tv deal kicked off straight away because the same lot that had it, got it again and as was in agreement with the RFL, the TV money was split straight away as Sky pauid the money up front, I can't understand how you don't get this or why you don't get this, no one signs a tv contract 4 years out and waits that long to get the money, no one could be that stupid. You are just sore that I showed you the ESL in England is worth upwards of 400 million Australian dollars compared to the 40 million the a league gets.

I have no idea why you would even bring this up seeing as Championship 1 gets maybe 3 games a year on TV being challenge cup game maybe, Northern rail cup final and the GF in which there is a promotion relegation battle.

[sydneyfc]

That again, it's 2014, the tv deal kicked off straight away because the same lot that had it, got it again and as was in agreement with the RFL, the TV money was split straight away as Sky pauid the money up front, I can't understand how you don't get this or why you don't get this, no one signs a tv contract 4 years out and waits that long to get the money, no one could be that stupid. You are just sore that I showed you the ESL in England is worth upwards of 400 million Australian dollars compared to the 40 million the a league gets.

I have no idea why you would even bring this up seeing as Championship 1 gets maybe 3 games a year on TV being challenge cup game maybe, Northern rail cup final and the GF in which there is a promotion relegation battle.

the ESL isn't getting 400million every year

even if it's $400million up front, that money represents an investment till 2021

you still didn't answer my original question which is why does canada get a free ticket vs australian sports, but the a-league can't get by on the same reasoning as the ESL? $400 million divided by 6 years becomes $66m, that is the worth of their rights per year in the eyes of Sky. More than the a-league, sure but given you were just harping on about population discrepancies per country then you're either a hypocrite or you cant count because $40m from a domestic population of 23million sounds good to me vs $66m or $75m from a population of 60million+

as far as signing a tv contract multiple years out, i already put that rubbish to bed, the premier league did it, bundesliga as well...even the a-league did it. if a broadcaster is confident enough in the growth of a certain sport they will plan ahead

and lastly, when it comes to television broadcasts and how many games are shown, that's the same for every sport in the UK, they don't show many premier league games and limit them to certain channels. the only people that can watch every premier league game, live, ironically....is everyone outside of the UK

australia is a unique market in where we have 1 main pay tv broadcaster that is able to monopolize the market for it's sports and can show every game live..give or take, most countries will have 2 or 3...sometimes even more vying for television rights, and will often have to share them with certain games getting blacked out and not shown at all

[ParraEelsNRL]

Are you stark raving fucking mad, where did you get the figure of 400 million a year you nut?

Btw, I destroyed you a few weeks back about the ESL TV deal, you ran off and never went near it again, do I really need to embarrass you again?

Since when and I want some proof idiot, do people sign a contract 4 years out when they are already on a fucking contract with a TV station, why do you think SKY sports got in early and gave the ESL a big boost?

I'll tell you why, there are new TV and Telecom companies popping up in the UK trying to outbid the other to get what they can.

Why do you think the ARU is getting 20 million from sky in the uk for the super 15 rights when Australia don't even pay that for all of it's Rugby Union?

Because of competition you drongo.

Why in the name of what's all good would you sign a fucking contract that doesn't kick in for 4 years supposedly when there is a current bidding war going on?

Only and idiot like you could think this way, typical bloody insular victorian.

[sydneyfc]

Are you stark raving fucking mad, where did you get the figure of 400 million a year you nut?

Btw, I destroyed you a few weeks back about the ESL TV deal, you ran off and never went near it again, do I really need to embarrass you again?

Since when and I want some proof idiot, do people sign a contract 4 years out when they are already on a fucking contract with a TV station, why do you think SKY sports got in early and gave the ESL a big boost?

I'll tell you why, there are new TV and Telecom companies popping up in the UK trying to outbid the other to get what they can.

Why do you think the ARU is getting 20 million from sky in the uk for the super 15 rights when Australia don't even pay that for all of it's Rugby Union?

Because of competition you drongo.

Why in the name of what's all good would you sign a fucking contract that doesn't kick in for 4 years supposedly when there is a current bidding war going on?

Only and idiot like you could think this way, typical bloody insular victorian.

still refusing to answer my question it seems, you put the $400m figure in here, not me, i'm going off by what you said. if you're not gonna answer my original question then i'm just gonna take it as another victory

as far as running from this forum, what an absolute joke lmao, lying through your teeth as usual, one only has to look at my sig to know what little bottle you have when it comes to this place

[ParraEelsNRL]

Well show me where I said 400 million a year and you will have a point, until then, stop sidestepping and admit you have no fucking idea seeing as the first time I asked you for the SL TV rights last month, you went and found an article from 2011. That's how fucking desperate you are, you used a link from and old TV contract and when I put the real one in worth over 400 million Aussie dollars, you went missing only to start raving about the same shit I have already shut you up about a month fucking later, you are a pill.

Now about that statement you said i posted about the ESL TV deal being 400 million a year, could you please link me to that statement so I can withdraw and admit you know more about it than me? Too much to ask trollup?

[sydneyfc]

England is worth upwards of 400 million Australian dollars compared to the 40 million the a league gets.

had you of said, england is worth upwards of $400million AUD from now till 2021 and the a-league $160m from 2012-2016, then i would have agreed. because those are the facts...supposedly...from the a-league side anyway

but you shoddily tried to compare the total worth of a 6 year deal vs 1 single year of a 4 year deal

[ParraEelsNRL]

Well the contract is worth over 400 million you flip, I still can't see where I said they get 400 million a year though, guess you were wrong again, eh.

Make some more shit up while you are at it.

[sydneyfc]

Well the contract is worth over 400 million you flip, I still can't see where I said they get 400 million a year though, guess you were wrong again, eh.

Make some more shit up while you are at it.

you tried to compare their 400m deal with the a-leagues "40m" thinking/or forgetting, that, that 40m figure is per year. our deal is worth $160m domestically for 4 years and you got smacked for it

while you can't even put a number on the ESL deal, lack of information...or perhaps lack of IQ it seems....you're lacking both sadly

$400m that will cover 7 years of broadcasting in a country 3 times the size as australia, but they're supposed to be way ahead of the a-league? yeah right

[ParraEelsNRL]

You are making things up again, I never said 400 million a year, that's nearly double what the NRL gets, derp.

[sydneyfc]

You are making things up again, I never said 400 million a year, that's nearly double what the NRL gets, derp.

then why would you compare a 400m figure against a 40m one? like i said, you're either dumb or clueless...some would say that's the same thing...but i'll leave that up to you

[ParraEelsNRL]

I said the SL deal is worth 400 m, it is, you were shown up in multiple threads now, just because they a league doesn't get as much, no need to get your fluffy panties in a knot.