Talking Footy

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/n ... 6472108952

THE powerful lobby group representing NRL clubs is demanding a $6.6 million payday from rugby league's new broadcast deal bounty - nearly twice the current $3.8 million hand-out.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal the NRL Council - formed in July to promote the interests of all 16 clubs - is adamant about receiving a grant that covers the entire cost of player wages across the three grades.

Based on 2013 salary caps of $5 million (NRL), $500,000 (NSW Cup) and $250,000 (Toyota Cup), the grand sum amounts to $6.6 million including pay-roll tax and relocation allowances.

Should the ALRC agree, the total club grants would equal $105.6 million - more than half the game's annual revenue from the new TV deal.

NRL players have been on about 60% of the total revenue generated by the NRL and clubs. They will want to keep this percentage and double their salaries. This sort of percentage is quite common across many sports codes. This sort of percentage is not good for the growth of the game. For the good of the game the commision needs to restrict player payments to about 40% or less of total revenue.

Xman wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/n ... 6472108952

THE powerful lobby group representing NRL clubs is demanding a $6.6 million payday from rugby league's new broadcast deal bounty - nearly twice the current $3.8 million hand-out.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal the NRL Council - formed in July to promote the interests of all 16 clubs - is adamant about receiving a grant that covers the entire cost of player wages across the three grades.

Based on 2013 salary caps of $5 million (NRL), $500,000 (NSW Cup) and $250,000 (Toyota Cup), the grand sum amounts to $6.6 million including pay-roll tax and relocation allowances.

Should the ALRC agree, the total club grants would equal $105.6 million - more than half the game's annual revenue from the new TV deal.

Oh dear. Good luck with that one NRL fans. Where will they find the money for expansion or grassroots development? Greedy players look set to take most of the windfall.

lets work this out shall we

3.8 Million ( the old grant amount ) X 16 equals 61 Million
wot % of that is this .. out of our old annual TV revenue amount of 83 Million ?

marcus ?
bearsy the bet welching bitch ?
can you help me out

cos it seems our clubs are going to be far better off $$$ wise ... despite spending .... a far smaller % of the games revenue in this new deal

is that right ?
is your VFL calculator working ... give it a tap for me

Raiderdave wrote:

lets work this out shall we

3.8 Million ( the old grant amount ) X 16 equals 61 Million
wot % of that is this .. out of our old annual TV revenue amount of 83 Million ?

marcus ?
bearsy the bet welching bitch ?
can you help me out

cos it seems our clubs are going to be far better off $$$ wise ... despite spending .... a far smaller % of the games revenue in this new deal

is that right ?
is your VFL calculator working ... give it a tap for me

Dave, you've bragged about how much funds the NRL will have compared to the AFL. Problem is your non tv ratings earnings are 50m per year, and the clubs about 250m, which is chickn feed in comparison. If club grants increase to take half your tv right revenue you'll still have stuff all. Oh but you can always increase club sponsorship revenue with your massive FTA TV exposure. Oh wait,......

Beaussie wrote:

Xman wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/n ... 6472108952

THE powerful lobby group representing NRL clubs is demanding a $6.6 million payday from rugby league's new broadcast deal bounty - nearly twice the current $3.8 million hand-out.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal the NRL Council - formed in July to promote the interests of all 16 clubs - is adamant about receiving a grant that covers the entire cost of player wages across the three grades.

Based on 2013 salary caps of $5 million (NRL), $500,000 (NSW Cup) and $250,000 (Toyota Cup), the grand sum amounts to $6.6 million including pay-roll tax and relocation allowances.

Should the ALRC agree, the total club grants would equal $105.6 million - more than half the game's annual revenue from the new TV deal.

Oh dear. Good luck with that one NRL fans. Where will they find the money for expansion or grassroots development? Greedy players look set to take most of the windfall.

What would be wrong with that? Radio, Sponsorship, IT etc would have to be close to another 100m a year. That gives them $200 million a year. The problem i see is wear to spend it.

As Dave points out, the AFL are the one worse off. On top of everything else they have to support there stuggling clubs with $60-70 million a year.

Raiderdave wrote:

lets work this out shall we

3.8 Million ( the old grant amount ) X 16 equals 61 Million
wot % of that is this .. out of our old annual TV revenue amount of 83 Million ?

marcus ?
bearsy the bet welching bitch ?
can you help me out

cos it seems our clubs are going to be far better off $$$ wise ... despite spending .... a far smaller % of the games revenue in this new deal

is that right ?
is your VFL calculator working ... give it a tap for me

NRL/clubs have multiple revenue streams. In the past the player payments were about 60% of the total NRL/club revenue. Players will want to keep the payments at about the same percentage. Yes there will be more money overall, however they will be a long way behind the AFL whos player payments are about 25% of the total AFL/club revenue. The question is does the NRL really want to compete with the AFL at grass roots, expansion and infrastructure? If so then NRL needs to make sure that the players dont suck up most of the extra revenue.

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

lets work this out shall we

3.8 Million ( the old grant amount ) X 16 equals 61 Million
wot % of that is this .. out of our old annual TV revenue amount of 83 Million ?

marcus ?
bearsy the bet welching bitch ?
can you help me out

cos it seems our clubs are going to be far better off $$$ wise ... despite spending .... a far smaller % of the games revenue in this new deal

is that right ?
is your VFL calculator working ... give it a tap for me

Dave, you've bragged about how much funds the NRL will have compared to the AFL. Problem is your non tv ratings earnings are 50m per year, and the clubs about 250m, which is chickn feed in comparison. If club grants increase to take half your tv right revenue you'll still have stuff all. Oh but you can always increase club sponsorship revenue with your massive FTA TV exposure. Oh wait,......

again ... maths & you F me you aren't a maths wizz are you
its not half
its a quarter

an incraese of 2.9 Million more per club X 16 is less then 25% of our total TV revenue
we'll be now spending 20% less on grants to clubs then we did this year .. but they'll all be far better off anyway

revenue is not the figure anyone should be looking at

its whats left after the bills are paid
& again
the VFL & its clubs have nothing left.. their costs are out of control

the NRL & its clubs will now have .... plenty left ..due to our revenue increasing by over 100%
..& while costs will go up ...they will be kept under control ... something the VFL couldn't do.

our game is miles ahead of vicky kicky in disposable income
we were dangerous enough with our pockets empty & hanging out
look the F out with them now full

piesman2011 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

lets work this out shall we

3.8 Million ( the old grant amount ) X 16 equals 61 Million
wot % of that is this .. out of our old annual TV revenue amount of 83 Million ?

marcus ?
bearsy the bet welching bitch ?
can you help me out

cos it seems our clubs are going to be far better off $$$ wise ... despite spending .... a far smaller % of the games revenue in this new deal

is that right ?
is your VFL calculator working ... give it a tap for me

In the past the player payments were about 60% of the total NRL/club revenue. .

our cap is currently 4 Million in 2012 ... the average NRL club revenue is nearly 20 Million
seriously ... I don't know where you lot get your figures from

but thats not even 25% .. let alone 60

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

lets work this out shall we

3.8 Million ( the old grant amount ) X 16 equals 61 Million
wot % of that is this .. out of our old annual TV revenue amount of 83 Million ?

marcus ?
bearsy the bet welching bitch ?
can you help me out

cos it seems our clubs are going to be far better off $$$ wise ... despite spending .... a far smaller % of the games revenue in this new deal

is that right ?
is your VFL calculator working ... give it a tap for me

Dave, you've bragged about how much funds the NRL will have compared to the AFL. Problem is your non tv ratings earnings are 50m per year, and the clubs about 250m, which is chickn feed in comparison. If club grants increase to take half your tv right revenue you'll still have stuff all. Oh but you can always increase club sponsorship revenue with your massive FTA TV exposure. Oh wait,......

again ... maths & you F me you aren't a maths wizz are you
its not half
its a quarter

an incraese of 2.9 Million more per club X 16 is less then 25% of our total TV revenue
we'll be now spending 20% less on grants to clubs then we did this year .. but they'll all be far better off anyway

revenue is not the figure anyone should be looking at

its whats left after the bills are paid
& again
the VFL & its clubs have nothing left.. their costs are out of control

the NRL & its clubs will now have .... plenty left ..due to our revenue increasing by over 100%
..& while costs will go up ...they will be kept under control ... something the VFL couldn't do.

our game is miles ahead of vicky kicky in disposable income
we were dangerous enough with our pockets empty & hanging out
look the F out with them now full

I dont think you have much of an idea about the amount of left over revenue that the AFL has. They AFL have always had a large amount of revenue and a large amount of left over cash to spend on grass roots and even a future fund. The AFL last year recieved an extra 100 million each year due to the TV deal. They have enough money in the future fund to support any losses that GWS and GC make. The AFL in 10 years or so will own outright their own 1 billion dollar stadium. The AFL clubs all have 20-30 million dollar facilities for training, recovery and player development. The NRL are the opposite they are deep in debt they needed to get 90 million in advanced payments to cover money that they owe. The stadiums that the NRL have are run down and due to poor crowds generally cost the NRL money to play at. The players training is conducted out of the back of used shiping containers with second hand gym equipment.

piesman2011 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

Dave, you've bragged about how much funds the NRL will have compared to the AFL. Problem is your non tv ratings earnings are 50m per year, and the clubs about 250m, which is chickn feed in comparison. If club grants increase to take half your tv right revenue you'll still have stuff all. Oh but you can always increase club sponsorship revenue with your massive FTA TV exposure. Oh wait,......

again ... maths & you F me you aren't a maths wizz are you
its not half
its a quarter

an incraese of 2.9 Million more per club X 16 is less then 25% of our total TV revenue
we'll be now spending 20% less on grants to clubs then we did this year .. but they'll all be far better off anyway

revenue is not the figure anyone should be looking at

its whats left after the bills are paid
& again
the VFL & its clubs have nothing left.. their costs are out of control

the NRL & its clubs will now have .... plenty left ..due to our revenue increasing by over 100%
..& while costs will go up ...they will be kept under control ... something the VFL couldn't do.

our game is miles ahead of vicky kicky in disposable income
we were dangerous enough with our pockets empty & hanging out
look the F out with them now full

I dont think you have much of an idea about the amount of left over revenue that the AFL has. They AFL have always had a large amount of revenue and a large amount of left over cash to spend on grass roots and even a future fund.

they used to
til they started up 2 new clubs that will drain the coffers for decades
the budget of 200 Million needed in the life of this TV deal are out the window already ... it will be a heck of a lot more then that
meaning other things will need to be cutback

our financial issues are tiny in comparison
we are in the box seat
you lot just got turfed from it ....

The NRL will have more money to spend. Mainly because they dont need to spend $ 60-70 million on expansion costs and supporting clubs. The AFL have more money , no one is sayin otherwise. But The fact is for them to spend as much money they will have to dip into there savings.

Rugby is no longer run by a money hungy media company , who paced there interests first. The cash will be spent wisely. The game will now be the Number 1 priority at all levels.

Raiderdave wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

lets work this out shall we

3.8 Million ( the old grant amount ) X 16 equals 61 Million
wot % of that is this .. out of our old annual TV revenue amount of 83 Million ?

marcus ?
bearsy the bet welching bitch ?
can you help me out

cos it seems our clubs are going to be far better off $$$ wise ... despite spending .... a far smaller % of the games revenue in this new deal

is that right ?
is your VFL calculator working ... give it a tap for me

In the past the player payments were about 60% of the total NRL/club revenue. .

our cap is currently 4 Million in 2012 ... the average NRL club revenue is nearly 20 Million
seriously ... I don't know where you lot get your figures from

but thats not even 25% .. let alone 60

I was wrong. I remember reading it was 60% but I think I got it mixed up with NFL revenue. I just read an article that said it was 22-23%

Raiderdave wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

again ... maths & you F me you aren't a maths wizz are you
its not half
its a quarter

an incraese of 2.9 Million more per club X 16 is less then 25% of our total TV revenue
we'll be now spending 20% less on grants to clubs then we did this year .. but they'll all be far better off anyway

revenue is not the figure anyone should be looking at

its whats left after the bills are paid
& again
the VFL & its clubs have nothing left.. their costs are out of control

the NRL & its clubs will now have .... plenty left ..due to our revenue increasing by over 100%
..& while costs will go up ...they will be kept under control ... something the VFL couldn't do.

our game is miles ahead of vicky kicky in disposable income
we were dangerous enough with our pockets empty & hanging out
look the F out with them now full

I dont think you have much of an idea about the amount of left over revenue that the AFL has. They AFL have always had a large amount of revenue and a large amount of left over cash to spend on grass roots and even a future fund.

they used to
til they started up 2 new clubs that will drain the coffers for decades
the budget of 200 Million needed in the life of this TV deal are out the window already ... it will be a heck of a lot more then that
meaning other things will need to be cutback

our financial issues are tiny in comparison
we are in the box seat
you lot just got turfed from it ....

We will see what the AFL has to say when they show their CEO report for 2012.

About 200,000 extra through the gate for the finals around 100 bucks a pop when averaged out.Comes to about 20 million.Gold Coast covered.