Fight Club - Football TV Ratings (AFL vs NRL)

[enarelle]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/.../nrl ... 1226025045..

This link relates to last years figures from Repucom.

Why wouldn't the AFL challenge the figures/claims? You seriously think they would let another code take bragging rights if they thought they could stop it? Please.

And yes this is about rugby league versus aussie rules. These attempts to take SOO out of the counting are lame. Just because the Rugby League community offers a wider range of "product" does not some how mena it does not count.

You can have all the great theories in the world about how AFL games are shown and how that influences ratings but theories is all they are. Of course I never see points about how league has less FTA games or limited coverage outside NSW/QLD/ACT and how if that changed it might alter their ratings. All theory.

Bottom line League is the dominant sport north of the Murray and 55% of the population live there. Where is the surprise in their TV ratings?

[Xman]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/.../nrl ... 1226025045..

This link relates to last years figures from Repucom.

Why wouldn't the AFL challenge the figures/claims? You seriously think they would let another code take bragging rights if they thought they could stop it? Please.

And yes this is about rugby league versus aussie rules. These attempts to take SOO out of the counting are lame. Just because the Rugby League community offers a wider range of "product" does not some how mena it does not count.

You can have all the great theories in the world about how AFL games are shown and how that influences ratings but theories is all they are. Of course I never see points about how league has less FTA games or limited coverage outside NSW/QLD/ACT and how if that changed it might alter their ratings. All theory.

Bottom line League is the dominant sport north of the Murray and 55% of the population live there. Where is the surprise in their TV ratings?

The AFL just don't participate in inter code chest pounding. In fact the last time I remember AD mentioning RL he actually defended DG!

There is no theory about AFL scheduling. Its fact. It essentially means AFL fans can only watch 4games per weekend and NRL fans 7. If there were similar numbers watching each code the NRL should get almost double the cumulative numbers, but even on fudged figures they clearly do not.

It will certainly be interesting next year when the AFL have more exclusive and live games. Then we will see a more accurate picture of popularity and the AFLs superiority in TV ratings will match their advantage in memberships, crowds, media interest and revenue.

[Xman]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/.../nrl ... 1226025045..

This link relates to last years figures from Repucom.

Why wouldn't the AFL challenge the figures/claims? You seriously think they would let another code take bragging rights if they thought they could stop it? Please.

And yes this is about rugby league versus aussie rules. These attempts to take SOO out of the counting are lame. Just because the Rugby League community offers a wider range of "product" does not some how mena it does not count.

You can have all the great theories in the world about how AFL games are shown and how that influences ratings but theories is all they are. Of course I never see points about how league has less FTA games or limited coverage outside NSW/QLD/ACT and how if that changed it might alter their ratings. All theory.

Bottom line League is the dominant sport north of the Murray and 55% of the population live there. Where is the surprise in their TV ratings?

Nice link by the way - page not found!

[enarelle]

Why does the AFL get paid more? Always the last argument of the AFL fan after trying to disprove the TV ratings? Well they do have the natural advantage of the game goes considerably longer so there is content there. Doesn't provide viewers but more viewing hours.

Next year the AFL will provide an extra game a week although it will cost them $30m a year for the two extra teams.

Of course in round terms the last AFL deal was done five months ago and the last NRL one nearly 5 years ago. So there a few drivers of change here apart from inflation eg the creation of the digital channels.Telstra seeking content etc

Rugby League is still recovering from Super League war with the TV deal the last thing to brought up to speed. In the 5years since the last TV deal was done ratings have gone up over 50% across the board. Much of this is catchup with disenchanted fans returning to the fold.

The NRL has professional advisers to help negotiate the new deal. They have given them a range from $1b to $1.4b

The AFL may still well get more money for the reasons outlined but the gap will close.

[Topper]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/.../nrl ... 1226025045..

This link relates to last years figures from Repucom.

Why wouldn't the AFL challenge the figures/claims? You seriously think they would let another code take bragging rights if they thought they could stop it? Please.

Why stop the NRL making fools of themselves? Which is what they are doing and the sensible people know it as well as the AFL is only too well aware.

Including State of Origin is wrong because the NRL do not control it. If we were to include it, you would also have to add the ABC figures for the VFL, the SANFL, the WAFL and the TSL to the AFL figures. The slot in New South Wales and Queensland is taken up by Union interestingly.

[enarelle]

the AFL crew can guess all they want and hope and pray that the leagues payday wont go significantly it is just that a lot of professionals in the industry seem to think otherwise.

Topper can pretend SOO doesn't count because of some bizarre reasoning = perhaps not familiar with the concept of representative football. But next year all one structure so nothing to confuse the ill informed.

Still over the last 5 years NRL has gone from 10m behind in cumulative ratings to 15m in front. Still haven't seen and AFL explanation for that one.

[Topper]

That's because the real figures say that the AFL is 13 million in front. You refuse to admit that the NRL and the ARL are two different entities, which is the core reason why State of Origin and other rep games don't count.

[enarelle]

The ARL IS one of two partners ie owners of the NRL. Next year/week just one entity.

Topper under your method of calculation boy are those Rugby league ratings going to jump next year when you have to add in SOO and tests.

I do love they way the AFL crew like to decide what people,what games,what members are allowed to be included in the NRL results

[Topper]

The ARL and the NRL are not merging. Don't lie. The independant commission is above both of them.

The restrictions on NRL results and AFL results are identical. You are against an even playing field?

[enarelle]

Fair dinkum Topper who writes your comedy material or how little do you know?

The Independent commission will replace the whole existing structure ie no more ARL or NRL just the Commission who run all Rugby League in this country

[Topper]

You are lying. Provide evidence of this, please.

[enarelle]

Topper how about you proving it isnt true. At the same time how about you explain what is happening with the restructure of the Rugby League world. you can call on all the other AFL members of the Forum to help you find the data.

[Topper]

You made the claim, and don't ask anyone to prove a negative. The independant commission are above both leagues and will oversee both of them.

[Xman]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/.../nrl ... 1226025045..

This link relates to last years figures from Repucom.

Why wouldn't the AFL challenge the figures/claims? You seriously think they would let another code take bragging rights if they thought they could stop it? Please.

And yes this is about rugby league versus aussie rules. These attempts to take SOO out of the counting are lame. Just because the Rugby League community offers a wider range of "product" does not some how mena it does not count.

You can have all the great theories in the world about how AFL games are shown and how that influences ratings but theories is all they are. Of course I never see points about how league has less FTA games or limited coverage outside NSW/QLD/ACT and how if that changed it might alter their ratings. All theory.

Bottom line League is the dominant sport north of the Murray and 55% of the population live there. Where is the surprise in their TV ratings?

The AFL just don't participate in inter code chest pounding. In fact the last time I remember AD mentioning RL he actually defended DG!

There is no theory about AFL scheduling. Its fact. It essentially means AFL fans can only watch 4games per weekend and NRL fans 7. If there were similar numbers watching each code the NRL should get almost double the cumulative numbers, but even on fudged figures they clearly do not.

It will certainly be interesting next year when the AFL have more exclusive and live games. Then we will see a more accurate picture of popularity and the AFLs superiority in TV ratings will match their advantage in memberships, crowds, media interest and revenue.

I notice you haven't addressed this point again enarrelle. I know it's hard for you to understand but the NRL should be way in front given they get almost double the number of games to watch, but clearly they aren't. This completely discdits any cumulative figure.

One thing you also need to consider regarding the change in NRL and AFL figures in the last 5 years is the introduction of multiple digital channels. Many AFL games on channel ten were incorrectly counted and reported because they excluded the figures for oneHD. This has happened again and again. Channel 7 also showed AFL on 7 mate this year into some states. The NRL broadcast has at least remained on the same channel consistently.

[Xman]

The ARL IS one of two partners ie owners of the NRL. Next year/week just one entity.

Topper under your method of calculation boy are those Rugby league ratings going to jump next year when you have to add in SOO and tests.

I do love they way the AFL crew like to decide what people,what games,what members are allowed to be included in the NRL results

Why should rep games be added? Do you think they give an accurate comparison of the overall popularity of each code? The NRL already has almost double the number of available games to watch each year, plus a longer season. Now you want rep games included that are clearly not a reasonable comparison of the popularity of each national league. Why not include RL games overseas as well?

With all these games included all you are showing is that again the AFL has actually double the number of fans nationally, because after all, with all these advantages of over double the number of available games to watch even the bogus cumulative figures show the totals are within 10%.

This is why foxtel have prioritized the AFL so highly. They know the potential audience is far higher. AFL is double the NRL on every other key indicator. Next year the ratings will show the same result.