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Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:49 pm
by piesman2011
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/the- ... 6458479191
The 10 biggest NRL flops of season 2012
JOHN GRANT
It's not hard to do a $1 billion television deal when Kerry Stokes, Kim Williams, Lachlan Murdoch and David Gyngell are throwing their cash at you. The NRL and new commission have failed to fix the big problem areas in the game - refereeing, mid-season transfers and an inconsistent judiciary.
They also ignored fans in the TV deal by providing no extra free-to-air coverage and switching back to a night grand final.
They eat their own in the RL world.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:11 pm
by enarelle
Sorry where did the claim of equal dollars come from? Perhaps equal value given the NRL did not pay to establish two extra clubs and thus an extra game.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:40 am
by Raiderdave
piesman2011 wrote:http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/the- ... 6458479191
The 10 biggest NRL flops of season 2012
JOHN GRANT
It's not hard to do a $1 billion television deal when Kerry Stokes, Kim Williams, Lachlan Murdoch and David Gyngell are throwing their cash at you. The NRL and new commission have failed to fix the big problem areas in the game - refereeing, mid-season transfers and an inconsistent judiciary.
They also ignored fans in the TV deal by providing no extra free-to-air coverage and switching back to a night grand final.
They eat their own in the RL world.
so we've gone from .. its impossible .. to .... its pretty easy
hmmmm lets see
destroying a comps quality but with all games live & having to fund 2 useless sides for god knows how long .. V.. keeping the same good quality .. more then doubling your money .. & keeping the same coverage
its a toughy

hang on .. no its not
the second one .... the second one

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:48 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:eelofwest wrote:pookus wrote:
Show me how 225 million in cash less is equal.Dont you find it strange that they couldnt find a buyer for internet rights oh thats right theyve already sold 70 percent and left out telstra.Only in the land of the League.A strange place where numbers are fudged,lies are told and egos take center stage.Where men follow the yellow brick road to the Gyngall wizard who will tell you when to play your game.who will play and when you will watch it.Now if he could only give you a brain.lol
The gyngal wizard.......
Mate all i can say for you is smoking weed it hurts your brain cells :D , time to give up i think...
AFL 18 1.250million minus the 220million minimum for GWS and Suns to survive, minus the 6million dollar marketing tools Khunt and Falou = 1.018million now lets take into account that the AFL average crowd has dropped nearly 4 k this year and it is clear to anyone that the 4FTA games are loosing your clubs huge amount of money through the gate.
NRL 16 1.025million + 100-150million for internet rights and add our broadcast rights for the NZ warriors of 100million = 1.275million
This thread is about TV deals and who got the better deals, financially the NRL deals are far superior by close to 250million. Coverage the AFL is superior end of story.
Please explain how 1.025b is a better deal than 1.253b
.
because our deal isn't 1.025 Bill you D head ...
it will be considerably bigger then that
most likely bigger then Vicky Kicky's .. in fact its almost assured
take out the major $$ cost in your deal
2 new sides at 220 million .. off your 1.250 Billion ... you have 1.030 Billion left
take off the major $$ cost in our deal

.... there isn't one .. so theres nothing to come off ours of any note ..... we're left with 1.3 Billion or there abouts
VFL smashed .. by the NRL
and cue this

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:25 am
by Xman
Most likely hey? Another of Dave's predictions. We got a far greater amount in the cash component so your placing enormous faith on Internet rights, especially since you've already sold some.

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:30 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:Most likely hey? Another of Dave's predictions. We got a far greater amount in the cash component so your placing enormous faith on Internet rights, especially since you've already sold some.

I've asked you for a prediction on our final rights total F wit
but you seem gun shy ?
a bit hesitent
some of your previous predictions were a little off weren't they ?
but man up
give us what you think our total will be marcus ... come on .. don't be a sheila

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:39 am
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Most likely hey? Another of Dave's predictions. We got a far greater amount in the cash component so your placing enormous faith on Internet rights, especially since you've already sold some.

I've asked you for a prediction on our final rights total F wit
but you seem gun shy ?
a bit hesitent
some of your previous predictions were a little off weren't they ?
but man up
give us what you think our total will be marcus ... come on .. don't be a sheila

I've answered it before. Less than the AFLs Australian deal, and you know it will be. Your 200m behind and only have a portion of Internet rights to sell.
It's over Dave, over! :D
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:52 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Most likely hey? Another of Dave's predictions. We got a far greater amount in the cash component so your placing enormous faith on Internet rights, especially since you've already sold some.

I've asked you for a prediction on our final rights total F wit
but you seem gun shy ?
a bit hesitent
some of your previous predictions were a little off weren't they ?
but man up
give us what you think our total will be marcus ... come on .. don't be a sheila

I've answered it before. Less than the AFLs Australian deal, and you know it will be. Your 200m behind and only have a portion of Internet rights to sell.
It's over Dave, over! :D
why would we exclude 100M from NZ ?
what do you think we can't spend it ?
happy for the VFL to include all those nations OS paying heaps to cover it ?
but what ... 50m for online rights ?.... 60M ?
I'll just add our NZ deal ... & we'll see what you think our TOTAL amount will be
& then of course
in the next few months ... we'll get the real total

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:34 am
by Xman
Quick geography lesson for Dave: NZ isn't part of Australia!
The Australian component of each deal shows the value of each code to the Australian TV networks. We're in front and will remain so, because we're Australia's number one sport on TV.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:11 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote: NZ isn't part of Australia!
.
their dough is ....
& we
have more
then you
cue these lil fellas

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:59 pm
by piesman2011
This is NRL V AFL broadcast revenue. Why shouldn't the NRL include their NZ rights, its part of their broadcast revenue. Does it really matter if they end up with a bigger deal overall?
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:10 pm
by Xman
piesman2011 wrote:This is NRL V AFL broadcast revenue. Why shouldn't the NRL include their NZ rights, its part of their broadcast revenue. Does it really matter if they end up with a bigger deal overall?
They may get a bigger amount overall when NZ is included, time will tell. But the NZ component isn't part of Australia and doesn't indicate the popularity or value of RL in Australia. International yes, but not here. It's like saying basketball is Australia's number one sport because of the nba rights.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:01 pm
by piesman2011
I think we are comparing the NRL with the AFL and if the NRL get the bigger broadcast deal overall it doesn't matter if some of that deal comes from outside of Australia. Just my opinion.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:34 pm
by Xman
piesman2011 wrote:I think we are comparing the NRL with the AFL and if the NRL get the bigger broadcast deal overall it doesn't matter if some of that deal comes from outside of Australia. Just my opinion.
I'm comparing the value of each code to Australian tv. It's like last years GF when the NRL claimed they won after including NZ ratings. What's that got to do with Australia?
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:25 pm
by pussycat
Xman wrote:piesman2011 wrote:This is NRL V AFL broadcast revenue. Why shouldn't the NRL include their NZ rights, its part of their broadcast revenue. Does it really matter if they end up with a bigger deal overall?
They may get a bigger amount overall when NZ is included, time will tell. But the NZ component isn't part of Australia and doesn't indicate the popularity or value of RL in Australia. International yes, but not here. It's like saying basketball is Australia's number one sport because of the nba rights.
The NZ Warriors are a team in the NRL. Because of that Sky Sports NZ will pay around 20m a year to watcn the NRL. It's No different to the TV money that comes from CH 7 /9 /Fox or formally Ch10.
Just because nobody else wants any part of the AFL, who exist, toally in there dingy little corner . Does not mean that the rest of the world should practice celibacy.