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Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:05 pm
by Fred
Have you got a source for the 6 billion plus figure for the vic park stadium? Where did you get it from. Genuinely curious as haven’t found that anywhere.
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:09 pm
by Fred
Also - you have to remember there will be a new stadium - for the AFL (and cricket) - if it is to be at Mount Gravatt as you expect - what would be the cost of that? There is also another venue being floated on the river as a public private arrangement - that might be even better - and would satisfy the supposed need to have opening and closing ceremonies on the river. Interesting.
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:18 pm
by azif
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:20 pm
by azif
Fred wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:05 pm
Have you got a source for the 6 billion plus figure for the vic park stadium? Where did you get it from. Genuinely curious as haven’t found that anywhere.
seriously fwed , its been reported 100 times in the last 2 months
thats the cost
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/queen ... d849ec?amp
i found that in 30 seconds
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:21 pm
by azif
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 5:23 pm
by Fred
azif wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:20 pm
Fred wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:05 pm
Have you got a source for the 6 billion plus figure for the vic park stadium? Where did you get it from. Genuinely curious as haven’t found that anywhere.
seriously fwed , its been reported 100 times in the last 2 months
thats the cost
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/queen ... d849ec?amp
i found that in 30 seconds
amazing - first I read that 6billion figure - does the journalist cite a source? I mean - main stream media and all (as you say).
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 5:33 pm
by Fred
Okay - seems that 6 billion is for a whole of precinct proposal put forth by Arcadis - different to the one in Quirks review - includes much more than a stadium
"Quirk estimated the cost of a stadium at Victoria Park to be $3.4 billion. Arcadis has estimated the cost of a stadium, a new arena, a permanent aquatic centre and a deck over the Inner City Bypass to be a combined $6 billion."
so we need to be careful citing figures and make sure we are quoting the right ones okay.
Now that is clear -
For the extra money I do like to Arcadis proposal - a good legacy to be left behind - will be unlikely though to get up
But the 3.4 billion stadium design - could be a goer.
for your reading pleasure - some good sources too
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nation ... 5kvgm.html
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:06 am
by azif
Fred wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 5:33 pm
Okay - seems that 6 billion is for a whole of precinct proposal put forth by Arcadis - different to the one in Quirks review - includes much more than a stadium
"Quirk estimated the cost of a stadium at Victoria Park to be $3.4 billion. Arcadis has estimated the cost of a stadium, a new arena, a permanent aquatic centre and a deck over the Inner City Bypass to be a combined $6 billion."
so we need to be careful citing figures and make sure we are quoting the right ones okay.
Now that is clear -
For the extra money I do like to Arcadis proposal - a good legacy to be left behind - will be unlikely though to get up
But the 3.4 billion stadium design - could be a goer.
for your reading pleasure - some good sources too
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nation ... 5kvgm.html
when you start from scratch on a site there is a lot of associated costs , its 6 bill plus to build a stadium there
simply not viable
& aint happening
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:26 am
by Fred
Yes, but the stadium is not budgeted for 6 billion.
The stadium and precinct - which I think is a better idea, is what is budgeted for 6 billion.
I see how you may got them mixed - easy mistake.
And yes, projects rarely come in as budgeted. The Stadium will be end up costing a lot more - so will the 6million budgeted precinct - probably 10 billion for that.
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:37 pm
by azif
Fred wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:26 am
Yes, but the stadium is not budgeted for 6 billion.
The stadium and precinct - which I think is a better idea, is what is budgeted for 6 billion.
I see how you may got them mixed - easy mistake.
And yes, projects rarely come in as budgeted. The Stadium will be end up costing a lot more - so will the 6million budgeted precinct - probably 10 billion for that.
irrelevant
thats what it will cost to build a stadium there , & apart from the demolition of the QE2 , there are no other associated costs with Mt Gravatt, the site is ready to go & we're not tearing down a school or removing green space
There is no other viable alternative
all other options are sheer lunacy

Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:23 pm
by Fred
The budget for the VP stadium isn't 6 billion though - just to correct your mistake that's all.
If Mt Gravatt is selected I would be truely amazed - but stranger things have happened. Does seem least likely - to the point I don't even think its in contention - but hey - we will wait and see.
I give you this to read
https://www.foxsports.com.au/olympics/c ... 2e628fe8a3
“There is no one who believes that that project is either value for money or provides a legacy option.
“Whilst I look forward to the results of the 100-day review, if a project like that came out the other end, at a time when Queenslanders are yearning to be proud of their government and their state on the world stage, I would be stunned.
“The idea of spending well north of a billion dollars in temporary facilities for something in the middle of the bush makes no sense in anyone’s language.”
and when I read this I said to myself - Premier - meet Asif .... the one person who does think it is a good idea lol
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:44 pm
by azif
Fred wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:23 pm
The budget for the VP stadium isn't 6 billion though - just to correct your mistake that's all.
If Mt Gravatt is selected I would be truely amazed - but stranger things have happened. Does seem least likely - to the point I don't even think its in contention - but hey - we will wait and see.
I give you this to read
https://www.foxsports.com.au/olympics/c ... 2e628fe8a3
“There is no one who believes that that project is either value for money or provides a legacy option.
“Whilst I look forward to the results of the 100-day review, if a project like that came out the other end, at a time when Queenslanders are yearning to be proud of their government and their state on the world stage, I would be stunned.
“The idea of spending well north of a billion dollars in temporary facilities for something in the middle of the bush makes no sense in anyone’s language.”
and when I read this I said to myself - Premier - meet Asif .... the one person who does think it is a good idea lol
what mistake Fwed
I said , & have said several hundred times ..... to build a stadium at Victoria park will cost 6 billion plus , don't care what that involves
its ridiculous & won't happen
& to correct you when you learn to read .. for the 40 th time
I have said over & over , the Labor plan was the right site , but the wrong venue .... demolish QE2 & put a new stadium there
for less then 2 billion , it gets the job done for the olympics , & will be the venue for Cricket & AFL moving forward
no schools demolished , no green space removed
the barking clowns with agendas need to be ignored ....
thats the only logical plan

Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:31 pm
by Fred
I asked where you got the figures from and you linked article - as I had the budgeted figures as 3.4 billion and you were stating 6 billion. What you were quoting was the sporting precinct proposal - not the stadium proposal. Read back through you will see. Not that it is a big deal - just pointing out where you got mixed up. And yes, projects rarely come in on budgets - but we have been talking about budgets thus far.
There is no way they are building a stadium at Mount Gravatt going by what I have read - but as I have also said - who knows given what has happened in the past.
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:32 pm
by Fred
A proposal talked about today re: rebuilding the Gabba..... an architect believes this is doable and the right place for it. Lots of proposals coming through.
Re: Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:39 pm
by azif
Fred wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:32 pm
A proposal talked about today re: rebuilding the Gabba..... an architect believes this is doable and the right place for it. Lots of proposals coming through.
It isn't , there simply isn't the room.
the Gabba is tightly hemmed in , to almost double its size it is not possible. And the sports that play there have already accepted this.
They're moving.