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Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:15 pm
by Cracker
Adamj1300 obviously hasn't heard of the Burswood Casino.
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:17 pm
by Swans4ever
Cracker wrote:Adamj1300 obviously hasn't heard of the Burswood Casino.
But the Casino isn't part of WCE or Freo - the point Adam is making is without their leagues club to support them any Perth team would be financially not viable.
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:43 pm
by adamj1300
Cracker wrote:Adamj1300 obviously hasn't heard of the Burswood Casino.
i have, but did you know, that the WA casino is the only place in WA that is allowed pokes.
so how will the NRL team make money with out their leagues club? none of the other NRL clubs can give advice
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:45 pm
by adamj1300
Swans4ever wrote:Cracker wrote:Adamj1300 obviously hasn't heard of the Burswood Casino.
But the Casino isn't part of WCE or Freo - the point Adam is making is without their leagues club to support them any Perth team would be financially not viable.
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:22 pm
by Cracker
Ah gentlemen did it occur to you that the casino could be the owners of the new WA NRL license? I'm not saying that they have expressed interest. I'm simply making a point.
Also, I would like to see proof of the banning of poker machines in WA outside of the casino.
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:27 pm
by Swans4ever
Cracker wrote:Ah gentlemen did it occur to you that the casino could be the owners of the new WA NRL license? I'm not saying that they have expressed interest. I'm simply making a point.
Also, I would like to see proof of the banning of poker machines in WA outside of the casino.
I thought it was common knowledge!
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:54 pm
by Cracker
It's not.
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:15 pm
by cos789
Private ownership hasn't been a good model.
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:55 pm
by adamj1300
Cracker wrote:Ah gentlemen did it occur to you that the casino could be the owners of the new WA NRL license? I'm not saying that they have expressed interest. I'm simply making a point.
Also, I would like to see proof of the banning of poker machines in WA outside of the casino.
they arn't banned they just haven't passed legislation through the state parliament allowing poker machines in pubs & clubs, it is pretty common knowledge. the only place that is allowed to have them is the casino
i'm not totally up to speed in why, considering pokes are every where in the other states and territories
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:35 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
Oh well, that'll be a good sponsor for them.
They can join the list of other casinos sponsoring Rugby League clubs around the world in some capacity.
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:13 pm
by adamj1300
ParraEelsNRL wrote:Oh well, that'll be a good sponsor for them.
They can join the list of other casinos sponsoring Rugby League clubs around the world in some capacity.
does the crown casino sponsor the storm in any capacity still?
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:43 pm
by Cracker
cos789 wrote:Private ownership hasn't been a good model.
I think that rather depends. There have certainly been examples of bad private ownership (Edelsten, Skase, Tinkler), but handled correctly it can work. Particularly if it is used as an opening springboard as would be the case for a new NRL club in Perth.
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:49 pm
by adamj1300
Cracker wrote:cos789 wrote:Private ownership hasn't been a good model.
I think that rather depends. There have certainly been examples of bad private ownership (Edelsten, Skase, Tinkler), but handled correctly it can work. Particularly if it is used as an opening springboard as would be the case for a new NRL club in Perth.
in the papers up here in qld, there was an article about david smith talking about the NRL going away from private ownership.
news ltd owns the broncos and they are by far the wealthiest NRL club, but they use to own the storm, but after loosing millions in them, news ltd sold them off.
if a new team was to start off it would be interesting. who will invest?. the crown casino in Melbourne use to do the storm, crown are also owners of the burswood casino in WA.
private ownership is big over in the USA, but in Australia, not to many have been successful across all football codes.
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:56 pm
by Cracker
I don't think it is appropriate to compare the American experience in private ownership with Australian, especially as if I remember the Green Bay Packers are not privately owned.
I also don't think that using News Limited and the Storm is appropriate either, given that I think the real reason they off loaded them was because of the salary cap scandal and for no other reason.
I acknowledge the view that Smith has about private ownership. It is a little convenient however given the Knights issue with Tinkler is still relatively fresh. So it would be the popular thing to say. As you say, the Broncos have done well with it and in Perth I think you will find that using the negative backlash against the Western Force could be a cornerstone to garner private interests - such as that of Crown at Burswood.
Re: NRL in Perth - Where is the interest in a WA based team?
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:48 pm
by cos789
Yes, private ownership of football clubs has a poor track record in Australia.