taking credit where credit is due

[Swans4ever]

the cheese rolling world cup has more cred then the
you play if you have a plane ticket to spazbourne victardia cup :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Still better than if your in the NRL you can play for ANY country cup!

[pHyR3]

the cheese rolling world cup has more cred then the
you play if you have a plane ticket to spazbourne victardia cup :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Still better than if your in the NRL you can play for ANY country cup!

Answer this then.why does the rlwc generate considerably more interest in every department than your shit show? Crowds,no comparison. Ratings...is AFL ic even on TV?

Thats usually the biggest gripe with rlwc, even though aus nz and England are all legit. As is France, Samoa Tonga Fiji and PNG. Italy trying to grow the sport so only a few locals and same with USA. Scotland and Ireland are predominantly local, either super league or local leagues. Wales I'm not sure but mostly local too I'd guess.

Prove me wrong as nrlc would say.

[adamj1300]

the cheese rolling world cup has more cred then the
you play if you have a plane ticket to spazbourne victardia cup :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Still better than if your in the NRL you can play for ANY country cup!

Answer this then.why does the rlwc generate considerably more interest in every department than your shit show? Crowds,no comparison. Ratings...is AFL ic even on TV?

Thats usually the biggest gripe with rlwc, even though aus nz and England are all legit. As is France, Samoa Tonga Fiji and PNG. Italy trying to grow the sport so only a few locals and same with USA. Scotland and Ireland are predominantly local, either super league or local leagues. Wales I'm not sure but mostly local too I'd guess.

Prove me wrong as nrlc would say.

it only gains to much popularity in the England, due to the game originated of England, & flows from the success of union

[Swans4ever]

the cheese rolling world cup has more cred then the
you play if you have a plane ticket to spazbourne victardia cup :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Still better than if your in the NRL you can play for ANY country cup!

Answer this then.why does the rlwc generate considerably more interest in every department than your shit show? Crowds,no comparison. Ratings...is AFL ic even on TV?

Thats usually the biggest gripe with rlwc, even though aus nz and England are all legit. As is France, Samoa Tonga Fiji and PNG. Italy trying to grow the sport so only a few locals and same with USA. Scotland and Ireland are predominantly local, either super league or local leagues. Wales I'm not sure but mostly local too I'd guess.

Prove me wrong as nrlc would say.

1st RLWC has been here since 1954, IC since 2003
RL has been played in NZ, GB, France, Aust at least since 1900 - AF only really in last 20 yrs
AF is in reality unlike ANY other sport RL is a bastardised version of RU

I am not particularly worried that IAF is not on TV, although with the new FOX arrangement that could change as we have had access to a lot more footy that we didnt get on TV before, Foxtel Cup, Teal cup games, NTAFL, SAFL, WAFL etc etc - (we always got VFL in Melb). So that may change and interest may grow - but I am not particularly worried!

Crowds - well your playing MOST of these games at VERY small venues - lets not get ahead of ourselfs - it aint in the league of FIFA or RUWC - no where near! If it was played exclusively say in South Aust - do you recon you'd get sort of turn out for a 50-0 demolition of a sub par team - of course not.

As for growing the game I really dispute that it is - there are SO many players that were picked from the NRL alone who were selected by the governing body to represent THAT or A particular country - the USA Tomahawks I saw have two brothers who were born in America from Tuggeronong whomlay for Wenworthville in the NSW cup. Now both have never lived in US and are clearly Aust - so you would say well he's born there he has every right to represent the country of his birth - and I agree - however if the domestic comps were as strong as RL people like us to believe then wouldn't they go thru a selection process for representation? They wouldnt have made the side as better quality players (USA 350 mil pop) home grown in the USA already would take their place (you only have to look at Newton would he be selected for Australia?)

It is a comp designed to say to the world - look were just as big as soccer and RU - the reality is not that! So in 100 years and 59 years since the RLWC inception you are still resorting to - its alright if they dont come from there, live there or are selected by that country because its showing how much the games growing. When it should be there is nomquestion they are legit, born, raised and play for there!

[NRLCrap1]

the cheese rolling world cup has more cred then the
you play if you have a plane ticket to spazbourne victardia cup :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Still better than if your in the NRL you can play for ANY country cup!

Answer this then.why does the rlwc generate considerably more interest in every department than your shit show? Crowds,no comparison. Ratings...is AFL ic even on TV?

Thats usually the biggest gripe with rlwc, even though aus nz and England are all legit. As is France, Samoa Tonga Fiji and PNG. Italy trying to grow the sport so only a few locals and same with USA. Scotland and Ireland are predominantly local, either super league or local leagues. Wales I'm not sure but mostly local too I'd guess.

Prove me wrong as nrlc would say.

Swans just killed you, and I'll add that you avoided the point. Your RLWC is not a true WC in that one can represent any country they want! It's a joke! In the IC that you are so keen to put down, the rules are far stricter for genuine representation!

And I'll say it again! Interest? 69 v 50. AFL wins.

[ParraEelsNRL]

the cheese rolling world cup has more cred then the
you play if you have a plane ticket to spazbourne victardia cup :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Still better than if your in the NRL you can play for ANY country cup!

Answer this then.why does the rlwc generate considerably more interest in every department than your shit show? Crowds,no comparison. Ratings...is AFL ic even on TV?

Thats usually the biggest gripe with rlwc, even though aus nz and England are all legit. As is France, Samoa Tonga Fiji and PNG. Italy trying to grow the sport so only a few locals and same with USA. Scotland and Ireland are predominantly local, either super league or local leagues. Wales I'm not sure but mostly local too I'd guess.

Prove me wrong as nrlc would say.

1st RLWC has been here since 1954, IC since 2003
RL has been played in NZ, GB, France, Aust at least since 1900 - AF only really in last 20 yrs
AF is in reality unlike ANY other sport RL is a bastardised version of RU

I am not particularly worried that IAF is not on TV, although with the new FOX arrangement that could change as we have had access to a lot more footy that we didnt get on TV before, Foxtel Cup, Teal cup games, NTAFL, SAFL, WAFL etc etc - (we always got VFL in Melb). So that may change and interest may grow - but I am not particularly worried!

Crowds - well your playing MOST of these games at VERY small venues - lets not get ahead of ourselfs - it aint in the league of FIFA or RUWC - no where near! If it was played exclusively say in South Aust - do you recon you'd get sort of turn out for a 50-0 demolition of a sub par team - of course not.

As for growing the game I really dispute that it is - there are SO many players that were picked from the NRL alone who were selected by the governing body to represent THAT or A particular country - the USA Tomahawks I saw have two brothers who were born in America from Tuggeronong whomlay for Wenworthville in the NSW cup. Now both have never lived in US and are clearly Aust - so you would say well he's born there he has every right to represent the country of his birth - and I agree - however if the domestic comps were as strong as RL people like us to believe then wouldn't they go thru a selection process for representation? They wouldnt have made the side as better quality players (USA 350 mil pop) home grown in the USA already would take their place (you only have to look at Newton would he be selected for Australia?)

It is a comp designed to say to the world - look were just as big as soccer and RU - the reality is not that! So in 100 years and 59 years since the RLWC inception you are still resorting to - its alright if they dont come from there, live there or are selected by that country because its showing how much the games growing. When it should be there is nomquestion they are legit, born, raised and play for there!

You gotta be a rugby league fan acting the fool, if not, you're a bloody funny troll, that's for sure

[NRLCrap1]

Oh so the truth is trolling now, ParraEel?

[Swans4ever]

the cheese rolling world cup has more cred then the
you play if you have a plane ticket to spazbourne victardia cup :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Still better than if your in the NRL you can play for ANY country cup!

Answer this then.why does the rlwc generate considerably more interest in every department than your shit show? Crowds,no comparison. Ratings...is AFL ic even on TV?

Thats usually the biggest gripe with rlwc, even though aus nz and England are all legit. As is France, Samoa Tonga Fiji and PNG. Italy trying to grow the sport so only a few locals and same with USA. Scotland and Ireland are predominantly local, either super league or local leagues. Wales I'm not sure but mostly local too I'd guess.

Prove me wrong as nrlc would say.

1st RLWC has been here since 1954, IC since 2003
RL has been played in NZ, GB, France, Aust at least since 1900 - AF only really in last 20 yrs
AF is in reality unlike ANY other sport RL is a bastardised version of RU

I am not particularly worried that IAF is not on TV, although with the new FOX arrangement that could change as we have had access to a lot more footy that we didnt get on TV before, Foxtel Cup, Teal cup games, NTAFL, SAFL, WAFL etc etc - (we always got VFL in Melb). So that may change and interest may grow - but I am not particularly worried!

Crowds - well your playing MOST of these games at VERY small venues - lets not get ahead of ourselfs - it aint in the league of FIFA or RUWC - no where near! If it was played exclusively say in South Aust - do you recon you'd get sort of turn out for a 50-0 demolition of a sub par team - of course not.

As for growing the game I really dispute that it is - there are SO many players that were picked from the NRL alone who were selected by the governing body to represent THAT or A particular country - the USA Tomahawks I saw have two brothers who were born in America from Tuggeronong whomlay for Wenworthville in the NSW cup. Now both have never lived in US and are clearly Aust - so you would say well he's born there he has every right to represent the country of his birth - and I agree - however if the domestic comps were as strong as RL people like us to believe then wouldn't they go thru a selection process for representation? They wouldnt have made the side as better quality players (USA 350 mil pop) home grown in the USA already would take their place (you only have to look at Newton would he be selected for Australia?)

It is a comp designed to say to the world - look were just as big as soccer and RU - the reality is not that! So in 100 years and 59 years since the RLWC inception you are still resorting to - its alright if they dont come from there, live there or are selected by that country because its showing how much the games growing. When it should be there is nomquestion they are legit, born, raised and play for there!

You gotta be a rugby league fan acting the fool, if not, you're a bloody funny troll, that's for sure

Typical RL can't fight reason can you! It's a sham comp ends there!

[pHyR3]

the cheese rolling world cup has more cred then the
you play if you have a plane ticket to spazbourne victardia cup :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Still better than if your in the NRL you can play for ANY country cup!

Answer this then.why does the rlwc generate considerably more interest in every department than your shit show? Crowds,no comparison. Ratings...is AFL ic even on TV?

Thats usually the biggest gripe with rlwc, even though aus nz and England are all legit. As is France, Samoa Tonga Fiji and PNG. Italy trying to grow the sport so only a few locals and same with USA. Scotland and Ireland are predominantly local, either super league or local leagues. Wales I'm not sure but mostly local too I'd guess.

Prove me wrong as nrlc would say.

1st RLWC has been here since 1954, IC since 2003
RL has been played in NZ, GB, France, Aust at least since 1900 - AF only really in last 20 yrs
AF is in reality unlike ANY other sport RL is a bastardised version of RU

I am not particularly worried that IAF is not on TV, although with the new FOX arrangement that could change as we have had access to a lot more footy that we didnt get on TV before, Foxtel Cup, Teal cup games, NTAFL, SAFL, WAFL etc etc - (we always got VFL in Melb). So that may change and interest may grow - but I am not particularly worried!

Crowds - well your playing MOST of these games at VERY small venues - lets not get ahead of ourselfs - it aint in the league of FIFA or RUWC - no where near! If it was played exclusively say in South Aust - do you recon you'd get sort of turn out for a 50-0 demolition of a sub par team - of course not.

As for growing the game I really dispute that it is - there are SO many players that were picked from the NRL alone who were selected by the governing body to represent THAT or A particular country - the USA Tomahawks I saw have two brothers who were born in America from Tuggeronong whomlay for Wenworthville in the NSW cup. Now both have never lived in US and are clearly Aust - so you would say well he's born there he has every right to represent the country of his birth - and I agree - however if the domestic comps were as strong as RL people like us to believe then wouldn't they go thru a selection process for representation? They wouldnt have made the side as better quality players (USA 350 mil pop) home grown in the USA already would take their place (you only have to look at Newton would he be selected for Australia?)

It is a comp designed to say to the world - look were just as big as soccer and RU - the reality is not that! So in 100 years and 59 years since the RLWC inception you are still resorting to - its alright if they dont come from there, live there or are selected by that country because its showing how much the games growing. When it should be there is nomquestion they are legit, born, raised and play for there!

Hey cool an actual argument from AFL this is new.

I'm on my phone these days as I'm in Asia at the moment. SurprisinglyRLWC is broadcast even here on some channel called ten sports or ten action. Every game live.

So your first point is it's been around for longer. Not sure why that means it will be bigger, ruwc has been around since 1987 and is bigger. So your argument that cause AFL ic has only been here since 2003 doesn't hold much merit. And that's only ever played in oz anyway. Also, it was crap before as seen in 2000 with 8k averages in the UK (the origin) and will now break 15 or 16k this time. Also both France games sold out at 15k and Wales got 45k to the opener. Not sure how small venues is relevant at all, im lookong at raw numbers. its no where near union or Fifa yet. Also AFL has been around for 100 years and has done sit lshit all internationally

As for eligibility, USA has some issues with selection of local players as there are two comps fighting it out so no players were selected from the usarl. Also I already said Italy and USA have few local players if you read my post. That is to grow interest in the game as 1000 players isn't enough in the states and rlwc is generating interest.

You'll find few that saw rlwc is bigger than ruwc or Fifa. Its about growing the game through interest and the rlwc is doing that far better than the AFL ic.

[ParraEelsNRL]

Well swansfan, GB have not played RL since the 1900's if you want to be really smart about it, GB was in name only because most of the players were English with a few Welsh thrown in when they were of high standard.

Once in a while, a Scot or Irishman would come from union and eventually make the national side because the game of Rugby League has only been played in Ireland and Scotland since 1995. The first winning captain of the RWC in 1954 was a Scotsman (Dave Valentine) and he also was a Rugby Union convert. Wales has dabbled in and out of Rugby League since the original split often going decades without a professional presence and then all of a sudden having multiple clubs to choose from.

France has not been playing Rugby League since 1900, they started playing in 1934, the game was played until 1940 when it stopped because it was banned and World War II was in their back and front yard. The game eventually started again in France after the liberation where it regained a passionate following. But obstacles were and are put in their place so they are still around a decade from really making another impact again, Les Catalans have helped, but they don't have the professional help in depth if they get major injuries to any of their players. They have plenty of semi pro and amateur players, but you can't expect them to beat full time pros until the gap between professionalism closes. Toulouse will help in this regard if they are granted a European Rugby Super League licence.

Since 1995 as you can see when Ireland and Scotland started playing RL, it's only been possible since then for Rugby League to actually start to spread its wings properly, that was the year Rugby Union went professional and the UK Government stepped in to stop Rugby apartheid against Rugby League.

[Swans4ever]

the cheese rolling world cup has more cred then the
you play if you have a plane ticket to spazbourne victardia cup :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Still better than if your in the NRL you can play for ANY country cup!

Answer this then.why does the rlwc generate considerably more interest in every department than your shit show? Crowds,no comparison. Ratings...is AFL ic even on TV?

Thats usually the biggest gripe with rlwc, even though aus nz and England are all legit. As is France, Samoa Tonga Fiji and PNG. Italy trying to grow the sport so only a few locals and same with USA. Scotland and Ireland are predominantly local, either super league or local leagues. Wales I'm not sure but mostly local too I'd guess.

Prove me wrong as nrlc would say.

1st RLWC has been here since 1954, IC since 2003
RL has been played in NZ, GB, France, Aust at least since 1900 - AF only really in last 20 yrs
AF is in reality unlike ANY other sport RL is a bastardised version of RU

I am not particularly worried that IAF is not on TV, although with the new FOX arrangement that could change as we have had access to a lot more footy that we didnt get on TV before, Foxtel Cup, Teal cup games, NTAFL, SAFL, WAFL etc etc - (we always got VFL in Melb). So that may change and interest may grow - but I am not particularly worried!

Crowds - well your playing MOST of these games at VERY small venues - lets not get ahead of ourselfs - it aint in the league of FIFA or RUWC - no where near! If it was played exclusively say in South Aust - do you recon you'd get sort of turn out for a 50-0 demolition of a sub par team - of course not.

As for growing the game I really dispute that it is - there are SO many players that were picked from the NRL alone who were selected by the governing body to represent THAT or A particular country - the USA Tomahawks I saw have two brothers who were born in America from Tuggeronong whomlay for Wenworthville in the NSW cup. Now both have never lived in US and are clearly Aust - so you would say well he's born there he has every right to represent the country of his birth - and I agree - however if the domestic comps were as strong as RL people like us to believe then wouldn't they go thru a selection process for representation? They wouldnt have made the side as better quality players (USA 350 mil pop) home grown in the USA already would take their place (you only have to look at Newton would he be selected for Australia?)

It is a comp designed to say to the world - look were just as big as soccer and RU - the reality is not that! So in 100 years and 59 years since the RLWC inception you are still resorting to - its alright if they dont come from there, live there or are selected by that country because its showing how much the games growing. When it should be there is nomquestion they are legit, born, raised and play for there!

Hey cool an actual argument from AFL this is new.

I'm on my phone these days as I'm in Asia at the moment. SurprisinglyRLWC is broadcast even here on some channel called ten sports or ten action. Every game live.

So your first point is it's been around for longer. Not sure why that means it will be bigger, ruwc has been around since 1987 and is bigger. So your argument that cause AFL ic has only been here since 2003 doesn't hold much merit. And that's only ever played in oz anyway. Also, it was crap before as seen in 2000 with 8k averages in the UK (the origin) and will now break 15 or 16k this time. Also both France games sold out at 15k and Wales got 45k to the opener. Not sure how small venues is relevant at all, im lookong at raw numbers. its no where near union or Fifa yet. Also AFL has been around for 100 years and has done sit lshit all internationally

As for eligibility, USA has some issues with selection of local players as there are two comps fighting it out so no players were selected from the usarl. Also I already said Italy and USA have few local players if you read my post. That is to grow interest in the game as 1000 players isn't enough in the states and rlwc is generating interest.

You'll find few that saw rlwc is bigger than ruwc or Fifa. Its about growing the game through interest and the rlwc is doing that far better than the AFL ic.

Well didn't really address my point re- 100 yrs it's a fact in 1956 the 1st RLWC USA were going to attend but pulled out at last min - so in 59 yrs since then there seems to have been no progress certainly they have appeared in several since again with no improvement - not to mention PNG who have really gone backwards. So no I don't agree that merely having a side in there will grow the game. AFL is on ESPN OS but that doesn't mean it will translate into participation. It's a circular argument

[ParraEelsNRL]

1954 was the original RWC.

How have PNG gone backwards dopey when they have just got themselves a team in the QLD cup where they can showcase their skills each week on TV to potential NRL, SL and French clubs?

It's always been hard for PNG players to be allowed to leave PNG and play footy out here or anywhere, things are about to change. You are going to see a massive influx of PNG players over the next decade.

[Swans4ever]

the cheese rolling world cup has more cred then the
you play if you have a plane ticket to spazbourne victardia cup :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Still better than if your in the NRL you can play for ANY country cup!

Answer this then.why does the rlwc generate considerably more interest in every department than your shit show? Crowds,no comparison. Ratings...is AFL ic even on TV?

Thats usually the biggest gripe with rlwc, even though aus nz and England are all legit. As is France, Samoa Tonga Fiji and PNG. Italy trying to grow the sport so only a few locals and same with USA. Scotland and Ireland are predominantly local, either super league or local leagues. Wales I'm not sure but mostly local too I'd guess.

Prove me wrong as nrlc would say.

1st RLWC has been here since 1954, IC since 2003
RL has been played in NZ, GB, France, Aust at least since 1900 - AF only really in last 20 yrs
AF is in reality unlike ANY other sport RL is a bastardised version of RU

I am not particularly worried that IAF is not on TV, although with the new FOX arrangement that could change as we have had access to a lot more footy that we didnt get on TV before, Foxtel Cup, Teal cup games, NTAFL, SAFL, WAFL etc etc - (we always got VFL in Melb). So that may change and interest may grow - but I am not particularly worried!

Crowds - well your playing MOST of these games at VERY small venues - lets not get ahead of ourselfs - it aint in the league of FIFA or RUWC - no where near! If it was played exclusively say in South Aust - do you recon you'd get sort of turn out for a 50-0 demolition of a sub par team - of course not.

As for growing the game I really dispute that it is - there are SO many players that were picked from the NRL alone who were selected by the governing body to represent THAT or A particular country - the USA Tomahawks I saw have two brothers who were born in America from Tuggeronong whomlay for Wenworthville in the NSW cup. Now both have never lived in US and are clearly Aust - so you would say well he's born there he has every right to represent the country of his birth - and I agree - however if the domestic comps were as strong as RL people like us to believe then wouldn't they go thru a selection process for representation? They wouldnt have made the side as better quality players (USA 350 mil pop) home grown in the USA already would take their place (you only have to look at Newton would he be selected for Australia?)

It is a comp designed to say to the world - look were just as big as soccer and RU - the reality is not that! So in 100 years and 59 years since the RLWC inception you are still resorting to - its alright if they dont come from there, live there or are selected by that country because its showing how much the games growing. When it should be there is nomquestion they are legit, born, raised and play for there!

Hey cool an actual argument from AFL this is new.

I'm on my phone these days as I'm in Asia at the moment. SurprisinglyRLWC is broadcast even here on some channel called ten sports or ten action. Every game live.

So your first point is it's been around for longer. Not sure why that means it will be bigger, ruwc has been around since 1987 and is bigger. So your argument that cause AFL ic has only been here since 2003 doesn't hold much merit. And that's only ever played in oz anyway. Also, it was crap before as seen in 2000 with 8k averages in the UK (the origin) and will now break 15 or 16k this time. Also both France games sold out at 15k and Wales got 45k to the opener. Not sure how small venues is relevant at all, im lookong at raw numbers. its no where near union or Fifa yet. Also AFL has been around for 100 years and has done sit lshit all internationally

As for eligibility, USA has some issues with selection of local players as there are two comps fighting it out so no players were selected from the usarl. Also I already said Italy and USA have few local players if you read my post. That is to grow interest in the game as 1000 players isn't enough in the states and rlwc is generating interest.

You'll find few that saw rlwc is bigger than ruwc or Fifa. Its about growing the game through interest and the rlwc is doing that far better than the AFL ic.

Well didn't really address my point re- 100 yrs it's a fact in 1956 the 1st RLWC USA were going to attend but pulled out at last min - so in 59 yrs since then there seems to have been no progress certainly they have appeared in several since again with no improvement - not to mention PNG who have really gone backwards. So no I don't agree that merely having a side in there will grow the game. AFL is on ESPN OS but that doesn't mean it will translate into participation. It's a circular argument

[NRLCrap1]

1954 was the original RWC.

How have PNG gone backwards dopey when they have just got themselves a team in the QLD cup where they can showcase their skills each week on TV to potential NRL, SL and French clubs?

It's always been hard for PNG players to be allowed to leave PNG and play footy out here or anywhere, things are about to change. You are going to see a massive influx of PNG players over the next decade.

No we won't because we already have AFL players from PNG playing semi professional already in Cairns! So what was that about not going backwards again? You're playing catch up!

[ParraEelsNRL]

Catch up? the port morseby vipers were in the qld cup years ago.