the VFL , officially a disgrace

[Raiderdave]

VFL .... a filthy low sport

NRL.... integrity all the way =D> =D> =D> =D>

[piesman2011]

Heres another 2 facts:

NRL since expansion has had 3 expansion teams win 13/25 premierships. Thats 52% of premierhsips won by 18% of teams all which are expansion teams.
Since merging with News corp in 1998 Expansion teams owned (or partially owned) by News corp have won 7 of 15 premierships (Melbourne and Brisbane) thats 44% of premierships won by 12% of teams 100% owned in some way by News corp.

[Stewie]

Heres another 2 facts:

NRL since expansion has had 3 expansion teams win 13/25 premierships. Thats 52% of premierhsips won by 18% of teams all which are expansion teams.
Since merging with News corp in 1998 Expansion teams owned (or partially owned) by News corp have won 7 of 15 premierships (Melbourne and Brisbane) thats 44% of premierships won by 12% of teams 100% owned in some way by News corp.

That's a pretty damning stat. What chance do poor teams like Cronulla have when competing with a huge company like News Corp?

[Raiderdave]

Heres another 2 facts:

NRL since expansion has had 3 expansion teams win 13/25 premierships. Thats 52% of premierhsips won by 18% of teams all which are expansion teams.
Since merging with News corp in 1998 Expansion teams owned (or partially owned) by News corp have won 7 of 15 premierships (Melbourne and Brisbane) thats 44% of premierships won by 12% of teams 100% owned in some way by News corp.

NSWRL /ARL / NRL expansion started in 1982 dip stick
thats 31 years ago
not 25

these teams & their premierships ....
1982 Canberra , Illawarra ( Raiders 3)
1988 Brisbane , Newcastle , Gold Coast Seagulls ( Broncos 6, Knights 2)
1995 New Zealand , Nth Qld , Western Reds ( none)
1997 Hunter Mariners , Adelaide Rams (none)
1998 Melbourne Storm (4) ... 2 stripped from them
2007 Gold Coast Titans (none)

thats 15 in 31 years .... 49%
we currently have 7 expansion teams out of 16 ... 51%

they represent about half the comp & ... they win about half the premierships
an earth shattering stat ... NOT
in fact its embarrasing you bought it up .... & spewie thought it was damning ......

heres a better one for you
in 10 years from 2000 to 2010
VFL's expansion teams representing just 35% of the comp (6/16)
won a total of 70% of VFL premierships

now thats damning spewie
thats damning

poor struggling Melb clubs don't even make the finals let alone win comps
& they never will , whilst the VFL manipulates its own cap & draft ... unevening its playing field & making its comp an utter joke.

NRL expansion teams winning rate 50%
VFL.... 70%

a joke

[piesman2011]

heres a better one for you
in 10 years from 2000 to 2010
VFL's expansion teams representing just 35% of the comp (6/16)
won a total of 70% of VFL premierships

Way to pick 11 years not even 10 years at a point in time that suits your argument and then stuff it up anyway.

2000: Essendon
2001: Brisbane
2002: Brisbane
2003: Brisbane
2004: Port
2005: Sydney
2006: WCE
2007: Geelong
2008: Hawthorn
2009: Geelong
2010 Collingwood

Thats 6 Teams winning
its not even correct with the percentage.
6/11 X 100 = 55%

[piesman2011]

Now watch a master. You need to pick a time period that doesnt look random. 16 years would be prefect because there are 16 teams in the competition so with in those 16 years each team should have won once each if everything is even. Lets look at the NRL over the last 16 years.
1997: Bris
1998: Bris
1999: Mel
2000: Bris
2001: NCK
2002: Roosters
2003: Panthers
2004: Bulldogs
2005: Tigers
2006: Brisbane
2007: Melbourne
2008: Manly
2009: Melbourne
2010:Dragons
2011: Manly
2012: Melbourne

Thats 50% of the permierships won by the 2 News Corp sides which make up 12% of the comp. Shame Shame.

[Raiderdave]

Now watch a master. You need to pick a time period that doesnt look random. 16 years would be prefect because there are 16 teams in the competition so with in those 16 years each team should have won once each if everything is even. Lets look at the NRL over the last 16 years.
1997: Bris
1998: Bris
1999: Mel
2000: Bris
2001: NCK
2002: Roosters
2003: Panthers
2004: Bulldogs
2005: Tigers
2006: Brisbane
2007: Melbourne
2008: Manly
2009: Melbourne
2010:Dragons
2011: Manly
2012: Melbourne

Thats 50% of the permierships won by the 2 News Corp sides which make up 12% of the comp. Shame Shame.

a master ?
a master bator ... more like it


how bout these 12 most recent years then for vicky kicky

2001 wions
2002 wions
2003 wions
2004 pork
2005 swines
2006 west coke
2007 Geebunga
2008 whoretorn
2009 geebunga
2010 collinscat
2011 geebunga
2012 swines

7/12 won by expansion teams .. thats well over 50% of comps won by 25% of the comp

5/12 won by sides that received blatant leg ups by the VFL to do so including 4/5 at one stage ... representing 12% of the comp
in the same 12 year period 2001 to 2012, exactly the same number of News own sides 5/12 have won NRL comps .... exactly the same % of the comp ..12

you want to put up News... master ?
I'll put up the VFL itself as the equivalent

which is a disgrace .. at least news own their 2 sides
what possessed the VFL to hand 2 expansion sides 5/12 comps since 2001... clearly at the expense of the other clubs in its comp
its suppossed to be unbiased isn't it ?

what a disgrace
an utter rort is the VFL... an utter rort

[piesman2011]

Now watch a master. You need to pick a time period that doesnt look random. 16 years would be prefect because there are 16 teams in the competition so with in those 16 years each team should have won once each if everything is even. Lets look at the NRL over the last 16 years.
1997: Bris
1998: Bris
1999: Mel
2000: Bris
2001: NCK
2002: Roosters
2003: Panthers
2004: Bulldogs
2005: Tigers
2006: Brisbane
2007: Melbourne
2008: Manly
2009: Melbourne
2010:Dragons
2011: Manly
2012: Melbourne

Thats 50% of the permierships won by the 2 News Corp sides which make up 12% of the comp. Shame Shame.

a master ?
a master bator ... more like it


how bout these 12 most recent years then for vicky kicky

2001 wions
2002 wions
2003 wions
2004 pork
2005 swines
2006 west coke
2007 Geebunga
2008 whoretorn
2009 geebunga
2010 collinscat
2011 geebunga
2012 swines

7/12 won by expansion teams .. thats well over 50% of comps won by 25% of the comp

5/12 won by sides that received blatant leg ups by the VFL to do so including 4/5 at one stage ... representing 12% of the comp
in the same 12 year period 2001 to 2012, exactly the same number of News own sides 5/12 have won NRL comps .... exactly the same % of the comp ..12

you want to put up News... master ?
I'll put up the VFL itself as the equivalent

which is a disgrace .. at least news own their 2 sides
what possessed the VFL to hand 2 expansion sides 5/12 comps since 2001... clearly at the expense of the other clubs in its comp
its suppossed to be unbiased isn't it ?

what a disgrace
an utter rort is the VFL... an utter rort

=D> =D> Much better.

[Xman]

Now watch a master. You need to pick a time period that doesnt look random. 16 years would be prefect because there are 16 teams in the competition so with in those 16 years each team should have won once each if everything is even. Lets look at the NRL over the last 16 years.
1997: Bris
1998: Bris
1999: Mel
2000: Bris
2001: NCK
2002: Roosters
2003: Panthers
2004: Bulldogs
2005: Tigers
2006: Brisbane
2007: Melbourne
2008: Manly
2009: Melbourne
2010:Dragons
2011: Manly
2012: Melbourne

Thats 50% of the permierships won by the 2 News Corp sides which make up 12% of the comp. Shame Shame.

a master ?
a master bator ... more like it


how bout these 12 most recent years then for vicky kicky

2001 wions
2002 wions
2003 wions
2004 pork
2005 swines
2006 west coke
2007 Geebunga
2008 whoretorn
2009 geebunga
2010 collinscat
2011 geebunga
2012 swines

7/12 won by expansion teams .. thats well over 50% of comps won by 25% of the comp

5/12 won by sides that received blatant leg ups by the VFL to do so including 4/5 at one stage ... representing 12% of the comp
in the same 12 year period 2001 to 2012, exactly the same number of News own sides 5/12 have won NRL comps .... exactly the same % of the comp ..12

you want to put up News... master ?
I'll put up the VFL itself as the equivalent

which is a disgrace .. at least news own their 2 sides
what possessed the VFL to hand 2 expansion sides 5/12 comps since 2001... clearly at the expense of the other clubs in its comp
its suppossed to be unbiased isn't it ?

what a disgrace
an utter rort is the VFL... an utter rort

hmmm, pies showed the NRL had 50% won from 12%, much worse than the NRL

If the NRL is a disgrace the NRL is even worse

[Raiderdave]

Now watch a master. You need to pick a time period that doesnt look random. 16 years would be prefect because there are 16 teams in the competition so with in those 16 years each team should have won once each if everything is even. Lets look at the NRL over the last 16 years.
1997: Bris
1998: Bris
1999: Mel
2000: Bris
2001: NCK
2002: Roosters
2003: Panthers
2004: Bulldogs
2005: Tigers
2006: Brisbane
2007: Melbourne
2008: Manly
2009: Melbourne
2010:Dragons
2011: Manly
2012: Melbourne

Thats 50% of the permierships won by the 2 News Corp sides which make up 12% of the comp. Shame Shame.

a master ?
a master bator ... more like it


how bout these 12 most recent years then for vicky kicky

2001 wions
2002 wions
2003 wions
2004 pork
2005 swines
2006 west coke
2007 Geebunga
2008 whoretorn
2009 geebunga
2010 collinscat
2011 geebunga
2012 swines

7/12 won by expansion teams .. thats well over 50% of comps won by 25% of the comp

5/12 won by sides that received blatant leg ups by the VFL to do so including 4/5 at one stage ... representing 12% of the comp
in the same 12 year period 2001 to 2012, exactly the same number of News own sides 5/12 have won NRL comps .... exactly the same % of the comp ..12

you want to put up News... master ?
I'll put up the VFL itself as the equivalent

which is a disgrace .. at least news own their 2 sides
what possessed the VFL to hand 2 expansion sides 5/12 comps since 2001... clearly at the expense of the other clubs in its comp
its suppossed to be unbiased isn't it ?

what a disgrace
an utter rort is the VFL... an utter rort

hmmm, pies showed the NRL had 50% won from 12%, much worse than the NRL

If the NRL is a disgrace the NRL is even worse

if the NRL is a disgrace ..... the NRL is even worse ?



WTF ?

[Xman]

Theyre a disgrace and worse....true statement

[Raiderdave]

Theyre a disgrace and worse....true statement

Xman wrote

If the NRL is a disgrace the NRL is even worse

this is a true statement is it ?
it doesn't qualify as sense .... let alone a true statement you dribbling halfwit

[Xman]

Theyre a disgrace and worse....true statement

Xman wrote

If the NRL is a disgrace the NRL is even worse

this is a true statement is it ?
it doesn't qualify as sense .... let alone a true statement you dribbling halfwit

Clearly I didnt put AFL first

But in the end the statement holds. The NrL are a disgrace and worse

[Raiderdave]

Theyre a disgrace and worse....true statement

Xman wrote

If the NRL is a disgrace the NRL is even worse

this is a true statement is it ?
it doesn't qualify as sense .... let alone a true statement you dribbling halfwit

Clearly I didnt put AFL first

:

marcus ..... a ****

[eelofwest]

Footy's drug summit will be told some teenage AFL recruits are already schooled in illegal drug use when they join the game's top ranks.

It can be revealed a senior club figure raised the drugs problem at a meeting with Victorian Sports Minister Hugh Delahunty last week.

The AFL releases the 2013 season fixture, every regular season game live on Fox Sports.


He told the Minister some recruits already knew of ways to avoid detection in drug tests when they arrived in the AFL system.

At least one Victorian club will allege at an industry-wide drugs symposium to be held in January that draftees are running the gauntlet on drugs in their first season in the AFL.

The summit was called after Collingwood chief executive Gary Pert warned of "volcanic behaviour" among footballers on their off-season breaks.

The under-18 TAC Cup competition is the major recruiting ground for AFL clubs, providing the bulk of talent at the national draft.

One AFL club boss said: "I know it to be. Have a look at schoolies. I think the kids are turning to these things earlier on, and not necessarily out of recreation, but because of their backgrounds.

It's hard out there in the suburbs for a lot of kids and they do turn to drugs. I think they are more accepted at a younger age now.

"Schools are beside themselves - from the best schools to the most working-class, so why would we think that just because they are in the First XVIII they are not doing it?"

Clubs will use January's meeting to push for greater control of the contentious three-strikes illicit drug testing regime and the right to know which players have recorded strikes.

Under existing rules, only the club doctor is informed of positive tests.

A rise in the number of AFL players self-reporting the use of substances to avoid drug strikes will also be tabled.

The Herald Sun has detailed a spike in players self-reporting the use of drugs to AFL medical directors Dr Peter Harcourt and Dr Harry Unglik.

By self-reporting, players avoid registering a positive drug test and a strike against their name.

The concern is restricted to a small number of players, most from the same Melbourne club.

Allegations of players supplying drugs to teammates will also be raised.

The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority conducts some drug tests at the under-18 national championships, but not the lower grades.

Veteran Geelong Falcons regional manager Michael Turner said he took offence at the notion of illicit drug use in the TAC Cup.

"Categorically, absolutely not. I have run the Geelong Falcons for AFL Victoria and the AFL for 18 years and they are fantastic kids - very disciplined kids," Turner said.

"In my time I have never seen any evidence of anything like that. So for anyone to say that ... it's absolute rubbish. I'm offended by it."

Turner said TAC Cup players received the same education on drugs, alcohol, racism and respect and responsibility as AFL footballers.

"What happens after they get drafted and they grow up is an issue for whatever club and environment they are in. So I can't speak for that, because they are adults."

Federal legislation states that ASADA agents can drug test any sporting competition at any level at any time.

A memo to TAC Cup clubs last year said testing was "unlikely to occur" at club level, but would take place at the elite national championships.

Dandenong Stingrays regional manager Mark Wheeler said he had never encountered drug use among his players.

But another TAC Cup official, who asked not be named, said club's would be naive to think junior players were not experimenting with drugs, alcohol and gambling.

"There is a lot of temptation out there - that's just a reality," he said.

But he said the structure and discipline of junior sport gave troubled kids a better chance in life.

Asked about the drugs in football debate, Delahunty said: "Drugs of any kind are not welcome in sport. However, this is a matter for the AFL as the controlling body."



They all want to be like Cousins.........


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