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Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:46 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:
So we're adding sponsors to the tally now? Cool. You've got no hope :lol:

http://footybusiness.wordpress.com/gove ... l-reports/
Richmond – $19,323,900
Collingwood – $19,120,714 (includes merchandise)
Essendon – $15,920,153
Geelong – $15,696,889
Hawthorn – $15,083,689
Carlton – $12,524,669
Brisbane – $11,700,040
Melbourne – $8,219,263
St Kilda – $6,714,163

Here's the sponsorship/marketing revenue of some AFL clubs for this year alone. As you can see its almost the entire yearly revenue for most NRL clubs, including NRL grants.

So sure, lets add up sponsorships now :wink:
it doesn't say thats revenue from sponsorship .... it just happens to be below a revenue table ... more sneaky VFL deceipt.
its just another example of the VFL putting up a big number but not explaining what it is , or how it breaks down..... why is the word " marketing " with it
marketing is an expenditure not a revenue source ..
I mean .... wot rot :lol: :lol:

keep yours & the VFL's BS off these pages marcus .... theres a lad :wink:

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:12 am
by Xman
eelofwest wrote:
Xman wrote:
So we're adding sponsors to the tally now? Cool. You've got no hope :lol:

http://footybusiness.wordpress.com/gove ... l-reports/
Richmond – $19,323,900
Collingwood – $19,120,714 (includes merchandise)
Essendon – $15,920,153
Geelong – $15,696,889
Hawthorn – $15,083,689
Carlton – $12,524,669
Brisbane – $11,700,040
Melbourne – $8,219,263
St Kilda – $6,714,163

Here's the sponsorship/marketing revenue of some AFL clubs for this year alone. As you can see its almost the entire yearly revenue for most NRL clubs, including NRL grants.

So sure, lets add up sponsorships now :wink:
Wow Xman is really cut up now.................................whats wrong princess you mad we doubling our sponsorship money for SOO................ :lol: :lol:

So it looks like you have made a shit thread once again.........................NRL sponsors dropping like Flies, should rename thread NRL sponsors money doubling in Size............... :lol: :lol:
They did drop like flies. So what if they gained a few too. As you can see by the table above its not really comparable to the AFls riches though :wink:

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:15 am
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
So we're adding sponsors to the tally now? Cool. You've got no hope :lol:

http://footybusiness.wordpress.com/gove ... l-reports/
Richmond – $19,323,900
Collingwood – $19,120,714 (includes merchandise)
Essendon – $15,920,153
Geelong – $15,696,889
Hawthorn – $15,083,689
Carlton – $12,524,669
Brisbane – $11,700,040
Melbourne – $8,219,263
St Kilda – $6,714,163

Here's the sponsorship/marketing revenue of some AFL clubs for this year alone. As you can see its almost the entire yearly revenue for most NRL clubs, including NRL grants.

So sure, lets add up sponsorships now :wink:
it doesn't say thats revenue from sponsorship .... it just happens to be below a revenue table ... more sneaky VFL deceipt.
its just another example of the VFL putting up a big number but not explaining what it is , or how it breaks down..... why is the word " marketing " with it
marketing is an expenditure not a revenue source ..
I mean .... wot rot :lol: :lol:

keep yours & the VFL's BS off these pages marcus .... theres a lad :wink:
#-o

The amounts are under the heading: "sponsorship/merchandise" :roll: plus its not an AFL site, its a private site that unpacks the official annual reports Dumbarse! :lol: The evidence is there in each report for all to see.

Is there no end to your paranoia?

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:43 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:
eelofwest wrote:
Xman wrote:
So we're adding sponsors to the tally now? Cool. You've got no hope :lol:

http://footybusiness.wordpress.com/gove ... l-reports/
Richmond – $19,323,900
Collingwood – $19,120,714 (includes merchandise)
Essendon – $15,920,153
Geelong – $15,696,889
Hawthorn – $15,083,689
Carlton – $12,524,669
Brisbane – $11,700,040
Melbourne – $8,219,263
St Kilda – $6,714,163

Here's the sponsorship/marketing revenue of some AFL clubs for this year alone. As you can see its almost the entire yearly revenue for most NRL clubs, including NRL grants.

So sure, lets add up sponsorships now :wink:
Wow Xman is really cut up now.................................whats wrong princess you mad we doubling our sponsorship money for SOO................ :lol: :lol:

So it looks like you have made a shit thread once again.........................NRL sponsors dropping like Flies, should rename thread NRL sponsors money doubling in Size............... :lol: :lol:
They did drop like flies. So what if they gained a few too. As you can see by the table above its not really comparable to the AFls riches though :wink:
riches .... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Brisbane 11.7 Mill , representing what ... who the F would know ?
but we do know they lost 2.6 Mill overall.
we know some of the VFL clubs on this list posted profits that would make a sandwich shop blush 8-[
meaning these figures are just another example of the VFL & their smoke n mirrors

riches ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:46 pm
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
eelofwest wrote:
Wow Xman is really cut up now.................................whats wrong princess you mad we doubling our sponsorship money for SOO................ :lol: :lol:

So it looks like you have made a shit thread once again.........................NRL sponsors dropping like Flies, should rename thread NRL sponsors money doubling in Size............... :lol: :lol:
They did drop like flies. So what if they gained a few too. As you can see by the table above its not really comparable to the AFls riches though :wink:
riches .... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Brisbane 11.7 Mill , representing what ... who the F would know ?
but we do know they lost 2.6 Mill overall.
we know some of the VFL clubs on this list posted profits that would make a sandwich shop blush 8-[
meaning these figures are just another example of the VFL & their smoke n mirrors

riches ... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Representing revenue earned from sponsorship and marketing dumbarse ](*,) ](*,)

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:24 pm
by Stewie
Once again with the "it is understood" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:57 pm
by Rabbit
Waterhouse in multi-million-dollar NRL deal

Leviathan bookmaker Tom Waterhouse has taken over from TAB Sportsbet as the NRL's gambling partner in a multi-million-dollar deal.

Fairfax Media understands Waterhouse has inked a deal with the NRL worth more than $10 million a season for the next five years.

Waterhouse and the NRL have been in negotiations for the past couple of months but both refused to confirm the deal when contacted by Fairfax Media. But gambling insiders insist it is a done deal.

The TAB has been a long-time sponsor of the NRL for several seasons and the NRL's deal with Waterhouse has brought that association to an end.

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The deal will also include Waterhouse taking over the controversial spot during Channel Nine's coverage of rugby league when live odds are presented during games.

Waterhouse is one of the biggest advertising spenders among Australia's corporate bookmakers, with an estimated spend of about $20 million a year.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2HFr8hlkJ

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:18 pm
by piesman2011
Not a fan of betting money being payed to clubs and comps for advertising space, be nice to get it all banned like tobacco sponsership. To many clubs and competitions are reliant on the money of diseased gamblers, it needs to end IMO.

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:43 pm
by Stewie
Lol now the nRL fans will have to put up with that annoying Waterhouse twat!

Channel 9, Waterhouse and nRL. Is there a worse combination? :lol:

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:34 pm
by Rabbit
Yeah AFL and victorians

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:11 pm
by Rabbit
LEVIATHAN bookmaker Tom Waterhouse has blown his competitors out of the water to become the new gambling partner of the NRL in a deal worth close to $50 million.

Fairfax Media understands Waterhouse paid many times the existing partnership deal held by TAB Sportsbet, such was his desire to partner with rugby league. He is expected to make a similar play for the partnership rights to the AFL when they fall due in two years. They are also held by TAB Sportsbet.

Waterhouse could not be contacted to confirm the deal but it was the talk of the gambling world on Monday. However the NRL remained coy on what windfall it would receive.

''At this stage, we haven't made any announcements in relation to betting next season but it's an area in which we've had a relationship [with bookmaker Tom Waterhouse] for some time,'' NRL media manager John Brady said. ''We're still finalising any announcements we've got in relation to that.''


Waterhouse was already an approved betting partner of the NRL as well as the AFL, Tennis Australia, ARU and Cricket Australia. But this deal takes his partnership with the NRL to the next level.

Waterhouse has been a major player in the advertising market with his company spend estimated to be more than $20 million a year.

Fairfax Media also understands Waterhouse has signed a separate deal with Channel Nine worth $15 million for one year to hold exclusivity over both the NRL and AFL Footy Shows, as well as rugby league match broadcasts. He will become the face of the controversial betting spot during Friday football, State Of Origin and Tests.

The combined value of the deals is believed to be $62 million.


Centrebet, which was the gaming sponsor for both Footy Shows, simply could not compete with Waterhouse's offer.

While Waterhouse wants a multi-year deal, Fairfax Media understands he took a 12-month deal and hopes to extend it to other sports, including racing and cricket.

He will be competing with newcomer to the Australian market, Bet365, for the cricket deal, which is particularly attractive with the double Ashes series the lengthy centrepiece of next season.

Waterhouse and the NRL had been in negotiations for the past couple of months but gambling insiders insist it is a done deal. The TAB has been a long-standing sponsor of the NRL and the league's deal with Waterhouse has brought that association to an end.

''Our sponsorship with the NRL has ended but we will continue to an approved gaming partner,'' TAB Sportsbet's Glenn Munsie said.

A number of NRL clubs hold existing agreement with bookmakers, including Brisbane, North Queensland and Manly, while Penrith has a stadium deal with Centrebet. It is unclear whether the NRL deal with Waterhouse will have any effect on these deals.

Waterhouse is continuing the tradition of high-profile bookmaking in his family and is a fourth generation bookmaker.

He is based in Melbourne but commutes from Sydney every week to run his business.

However it is understood the business is likely to relocated to Sydney this year.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2HHr8lMjY

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ARLC on fire

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:12 pm
by Xman
Rabbit wrote:
LEVIATHAN bookmaker Tom Waterhouse has blown his competitors out of the water to become the new gambling partner of the NRL in a deal worth close to $50 million.

Fairfax Media understands Waterhouse paid many times the existing partnership deal held by TAB Sportsbet, such was his desire to partner with rugby league. He is expected to make a similar play for the partnership rights to the AFL when they fall due in two years. They are also held by TAB Sportsbet.

Waterhouse could not be contacted to confirm the deal but it was the talk of the gambling world on Monday. However the NRL remained coy on what windfall it would receive.

''At this stage, we haven't made any announcements in relation to betting next season but it's an area in which we've had a relationship [with bookmaker Tom Waterhouse] for some time,'' NRL media manager John Brady said. ''We're still finalising any announcements we've got in relation to that.''


Waterhouse was already an approved betting partner of the NRL as well as the AFL, Tennis Australia, ARU and Cricket Australia. But this deal takes his partnership with the NRL to the next level.

Waterhouse has been a major player in the advertising market with his company spend estimated to be more than $20 million a year.

Fairfax Media also understands Waterhouse has signed a separate deal with Channel Nine worth $15 million for one year to hold exclusivity over both the NRL and AFL Footy Shows, as well as rugby league match broadcasts. He will become the face of the controversial betting spot during Friday football, State Of Origin and Tests.

The combined value of the deals is believed to be $62 million.


Centrebet, which was the gaming sponsor for both Footy Shows, simply could not compete with Waterhouse's offer.

While Waterhouse wants a multi-year deal, Fairfax Media understands he took a 12-month deal and hopes to extend it to other sports, including racing and cricket.

He will be competing with newcomer to the Australian market, Bet365, for the cricket deal, which is particularly attractive with the double Ashes series the lengthy centrepiece of next season.

Waterhouse and the NRL had been in negotiations for the past couple of months but gambling insiders insist it is a done deal. The TAB has been a long-standing sponsor of the NRL and the league's deal with Waterhouse has brought that association to an end.

''Our sponsorship with the NRL has ended but we will continue to an approved gaming partner,'' TAB Sportsbet's Glenn Munsie said.

A number of NRL clubs hold existing agreement with bookmakers, including Brisbane, North Queensland and Manly, while Penrith has a stadium deal with Centrebet. It is unclear whether the NRL deal with Waterhouse will have any effect on these deals.

Waterhouse is continuing the tradition of high-profile bookmaking in his family and is a fourth generation bookmaker.

He is based in Melbourne but commutes from Sydney every week to run his business.

However it is understood the business is likely to relocated to Sydney this year.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2HHr8lMjY

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ARLC on fire
not really, just making up for all the companies that dropped them recently :lol:

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:37 am
by eelofwest
piesman2011 wrote:
Not a fan of betting money being payed to clubs and comps for advertising space, be nice to get it all banned like tobacco sponsership. To many clubs and competitions are reliant on the money of diseased gamblers, it needs to end IMO.
Well i do agree with you Pies but unfortunately it is not only NRL who will be signed by Waterhouse, the AFL will sign in 2 years time as the article states. The AFL will not turn down that amount of money being offered wait and see.
It seems that the Waterhouse war chest still has room to make an impact on Australian football, with the bookmaking firm to begin courting the AFL once its four-year deal with Tabcorp - which has two years to run - finishes.

If the betting firm manages to outbid Tabcorp in late 2014, it will mean that Waterhouse will have a national blanket coverage of two of the nation's most popular sports. The partnership between the AFL and Tabcorp means they are wagering partners, with access to signage, corporate hospitality and the use of AFL images for marketing.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/waterhou ... z2HN43fss0

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:40 am
by piesman2011
have to agree eels. The AFL are as bad and the NRL with this sort of thing.

Re: ARl/NRL - sponsors dropping like flies

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:08 am
by Stewie
piesman2011 wrote:
have to agree eels. The AFL are as bad and the NRL with this sort of thing.
The AFL aren't as bad as the nRL is though. They came to an agreement with the MCG to ban the showing of live odds during all matches at the MCG. =D>

If it meant getting less advertising money for the nRL, they would never agree to such a move. [-X