Talking Footy

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

at the rate things are going
it will be about the time yours is back in them .... around 2017

The nRL crowd grew what, a couple of hundred this year? And that was on the back of a big name player retiring and drawing a big crowd, not to mention the various crowd inflations going on in Melbourne and the Gold Coast. Take away the 46k Parramatta crowd from the guy retiring and replace it with their average crowd of around 15k and all of a sudden you're thousands below last years total. The nRL will never break out of those evil teen crowds

so you think one crowd of 46K affected our overall average by one & a half thousand
ah ....


oh spewie ... your mathematical abilities are a sight to behold

of course ... since 2010 the VFL popped on 22 extra games (at a cost of approx 80 million dollars ) & STILL lost 360,000 fans through the gate
if the blatant fudging by the midgets & thuns was factored in .. the result is even more concerning.
and the future looks even less rosey ... the midgets support will plummett in 2013 ( yeah I dunno how thats possible either ) & the thuns support will drop further as well
I have no doubt the VFL will lose another 200K fans next year & their average will drop below 30K
as a comp..it is as low a quality as anyone can remember & this will continue to bite.... who knows how far it could drop

the NRL has set a goal of a 20K average by 2017 as part of their strategic plan .. they need another 3500 a game to get to this figure.
they will achieve this target .... I have seen the plan to get to this figure
they won't fail ...

NRL heading north
VFL .... the other way

I was speaking about the total aggregate crowd you minda. Take away the 46,000 and replace it with their average of 15k (or you could use their parramatta stadium average of 12k) and the overall nRL aggregate and therefore average crowd goes below last years total.

AFL average crowd below 30,000?

Next year is the beginning of the crowd resurrection Raiderdave. With the Suns now improving, interest in the quality of matches involving them will increase and with it the crowds. The Simonds Stadium redevelopment will be completed, meaning Geelong's home games there won't have a 22,000 limit on them, rather a 34,500 capacity. It will be the last year at Football Park in Adelaide, this could create some interest at the hole of a ground but maybe only for the last couple of games there, still an increase is on the cards at the venue.

And then there's 2014 where the big increase will come. Watch out Raiderdave, 2012 is as low as the AFL is gonna go

Stewie wrote:

AFL average crowd below 30,000?

Next year is the beginning of the crowd resurrection Raiderdave. With the Suns now improving, interest in the quality of matches involving them will increase and with it the crowds. The Simonds Stadium redevelopment will be completed, meaning Geelong's home games there won't have a 22,000 limit on them, rather a 34,500 capacity. It will be the last year at Football Park in Adelaide, this could create some interest at the hole of a ground but maybe only for the last couple of games there, still an increase is on the cards at the venue.

And then there's 2014 where the big increase will come. Watch out Raiderdave, 2012 is as low as the AFL is gonna go

Right on. This year was the perfect storm for crowd reduction:
- a number of grounds under renovations
- live games against the gate for every match for the first time
- new teams with developing lists
- more games than ever in nsw qld and Tasmania

Next year will be an improvement and the following year the Adelaide oval will be ready. After that the giants and suns will be decent sides resulting in better crowds. After that the new wa stadium will be near ready.

It's all up from here.

And then again in 2018 with Perth Stadium. WCE could easily have a 50,000 average crowd, quite amazing for a team that only plays another team in their own state once as a home game.

The suns are improving! That's a funny one stewie

Raider says some very pertinent messages re crowds here and it will be interesting to see if the AFL crowds drop another 200,000 this year. I tend to believe dave here. The quality of the comp has been at an all time low. I mean who wants to watch melb play? Port adelaide? Western bulldogs? Suns? GWS? Brisbane? Not only are their fans turning away but so are the opposing teams fans. I mean its a dead rubber. Me for example. As much as I love watching brisbane lose, I'm not gunna go watch the swans play em because its a foregone conclusion. 1 less fan at the game and I'm 100% confident there's atleast 500 others who would make exactly the same decision come the swans lions game in sydney 2013.

Xman, stewie please feel free to respond and I'll drop another turd on you afterwards but how's about we get this thread back on track aswell? So ahhhh its because russel crowe is leaving that the bunnies are in all sorts of trouble? You AFL dummies are soooo off the mark and desperate its hilarious. With this one you've actually dropped a turd on yourselves! Bravo, jolly good show =D>

Raiderdave wrote:

the NRL has set a goal of a 20K average by 2017 as part of their strategic plan .. they need another 3500 a game to get to this figure.
they will achieve this target .... I have seen the plan to get to this figure
they won't fail ...

Care to share this fantasy plan of the NRL?

Another 3,500 per game is all that's needed eh? As if that is ever likely to be achieved.

King-Eliagh wrote:

The suns are improving! That's a funny one stewie

Raider says some very pertinent messages re crowds here and it will be interesting to see if the AFL crowds drop another 200,000 this year. I tend to believe dave here. The quality of the comp has been at an all time low. I mean who wants to watch melb play? Port adelaide? Western bulldogs? Suns? GWS? Brisbane? Not only are their fans turning away but so are the opposing teams fans. I mean its a dead rubber. Me for example. As much as I love watching brisbane lose, I'm not gunna go watch the swans play em because its a foregone conclusion. 1 less fan at the game and I'm 100% confident there's atleast 500 others who would make exactly the same decision come the swans lions game in sydney 2013.

Xman, stewie please feel free to respond and I'll drop another turd on you afterwards but how's about we get this thread back on track aswell? So ahhhh its because russel crowe is leaving that the bunnies are in all sorts of trouble? You AFL dummies are soooo off the mark and desperate its hilarious. With this one you've actually dropped a turd on yourselves! Bravo, jolly good show =D>

On field performances this year saw Gold Coast, Port Adelaide and Brisbane all improve. Those sides should all see growth in crowd numbers next year. Swans fans won't care about this "foregone conclusion" as they've just won the premiership and crowds will be out in force to see them play.

Stewie wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

The nRL crowd grew what, a couple of hundred this year? And that was on the back of a big name player retiring and drawing a big crowd, not to mention the various crowd inflations going on in Melbourne and the Gold Coast. Take away the 46k Parramatta crowd from the guy retiring and replace it with their average crowd of around 15k and all of a sudden you're thousands below last years total. The nRL will never break out of those evil teen crowds

so you think one crowd of 46K affected our overall average by one & a half thousand
ah ....


oh spewie ... your mathematical abilities are a sight to behold

of course ... since 2010 the VFL popped on 22 extra games (at a cost of approx 80 million dollars ) & STILL lost 360,000 fans through the gate
if the blatant fudging by the midgets & thuns was factored in .. the result is even more concerning.
and the future looks even less rosey ... the midgets support will plummett in 2013 ( yeah I dunno how thats possible either ) & the thuns support will drop further as well
I have no doubt the VFL will lose another 200K fans next year & their average will drop below 30K
as a comp..it is as low a quality as anyone can remember & this will continue to bite.... who knows how far it could drop

the NRL has set a goal of a 20K average by 2017 as part of their strategic plan .. they need another 3500 a game to get to this figure.
they will achieve this target .... I have seen the plan to get to this figure
they won't fail ...

NRL heading north
VFL .... the other way

I was speaking about the total aggregate crowd you minda. Take away the 46,000 and replace it with their average of 15k (or you could use their parramatta stadium average of 12k) and the overall nRL aggregate and therefore average crowd goes below last years total.

but but but .. the NRL aren't allowed to pull crowds of 46,000
its not fair

Stewie wrote:

AFL average crowd below 30,000?

there only 1500 off it now

only 2 years ago they were 7500 off it

VFL..... plummetting to earth like a one winged buzzard

Beaussie wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

the NRL has set a goal of a 20K average by 2017 as part of their strategic plan .. they need another 3500 a game to get to this figure.
they will achieve this target .... I have seen the plan to get to this figure
they won't fail ...

Care to share this fantasy plan of the NRL?

Another 3,500 per game is all that's needed eh? As if that is ever likely to be achieved.

fixed schedule
doubling the membership of the NRL by 2017
twice the numb of games between Sydney's bigger clubs at ANZ & the SFS instead of the smaller suburban grounds

yep ... ours will go up by 3500 a game over the next 5 years
the VFL's
will drop by another 3500 a game

nothing surer

Stewie wrote:

King-Eliagh wrote:

The suns are improving! That's a funny one stewie

Raider says some very pertinent messages re crowds here and it will be interesting to see if the AFL crowds drop another 200,000 this year. I tend to believe dave here. The quality of the comp has been at an all time low. I mean who wants to watch melb play? Port adelaide? Western bulldogs? Suns? GWS? Brisbane? Not only are their fans turning away but so are the opposing teams fans. I mean its a dead rubber. Me for example. As much as I love watching brisbane lose, I'm not gunna go watch the swans play em because its a foregone conclusion. 1 less fan at the game and I'm 100% confident there's atleast 500 others who would make exactly the same decision come the swans lions game in sydney 2013.

Xman, stewie please feel free to respond and I'll drop another turd on you afterwards but how's about we get this thread back on track aswell? So ahhhh its because russel crowe is leaving that the bunnies are in all sorts of trouble? You AFL dummies are soooo off the mark and desperate its hilarious. With this one you've actually dropped a turd on yourselves! Bravo, jolly good show =D>

On field performances this year saw Gold Coast, Port Adelaide and Brisbane all improve. .

ahhh .... 3 wins in 2011
&
3 wins in 2012

they didn't improve at all on any measure
& in fact .. if it wasn't for an even bigger pack of ********* coming along in the form of the midgets in 2012 that made them look at least no worse then 2011

the Thuns were in fact ... MUCH WORSE

get your hand of yr willy .... & post something remotely right at least once in yr life

Raiderdave wrote:

Beaussie wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

the NRL has set a goal of a 20K average by 2017 as part of their strategic plan .. they need another 3500 a game to get to this figure.
they will achieve this target .... I have seen the plan to get to this figure
they won't fail ...

Care to share this fantasy plan of the NRL?

Another 3,500 per game is all that's needed eh? As if that is ever likely to be achieved.

fixed schedule
doubling the membership of the NRL by 2017
twice the numb of games between Sydney's bigger clubs at ANZ & the SFS instead of the smaller suburban grounds

yep ... ours will go up by 3500 a game over the next 5 years
the VFL's
will drop by another 3500 a game

nothing surer

Fixed schedule for only 20 rounds of the 26 and by Channel 9, not the nRL

Your Sunday night games will be as bid if not worse than Monday night games, and crowds will be affected by it.

nRL - selling out to TV like there's no tomorrw

Stewie wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Beaussie wrote:

Care to share this fantasy plan of the NRL?

Another 3,500 per game is all that's needed eh? As if that is ever likely to be achieved.

fixed schedule
doubling the membership of the NRL by 2017
twice the numb of games between Sydney's bigger clubs at ANZ & the SFS instead of the smaller suburban grounds

yep ... ours will go up by 3500 a game over the next 5 years
the VFL's
will drop by another 3500 a game

nothing surer

Fixed schedule for only 20 rounds of the 26 and by Channel 9, not the nRL

yes .... thats why ch 9 rejected .. their own schedule


when will you ever be right .... about anything

Would you really be surprised if the monkeys at Channel 9 did reject their own schedule?

Stewie wrote:

Would you really be surprised if the monkeys at Channel 9 did reject their own schedule?

ah......yes , somewhat

it would however be less surprising then you posting something correct