piesman2011 wrote:Stewie wrote:
Gram was in court today. Didnt another AFL player do something stupid a few days ago? Your making yourself look silly. Like I said for every NRL player in trouble there will probably be 2 AFL players getting in trouble in the future because there are approximately 2 AFL players for every NRL player. If you give a young male lots of money and have the world tell him how great he is, you just need to apply alcohol and he thinks the rules dont apply to him. Put your bias aside for 5 minutes and look at it pragmatically.
And the Saints acted on Gram's crime and have terminated his contract. The North Queensland Cowboys kept the player who hit his partner twice, once while she was pregnant on their list. The AFL doesn't tolerate crap from its players
anymore but the nRL still does which is unfortunate. The word in bold is important...
Not sure if the AFL had much to do with Gram's contract being terminated, this would have been a club decision (you implied this by saying that the AFL doesnt tolerate crap from its players). If Gram had won the Saints BAF this year he might have been given a few more chances. The difference between Gram and say Scotland was that Scotland just won Carltons BAF and Gram was pretty much finished. Scotland was very lucky not to go to jail. Dont pretend that the AFL is better then the NRL with this sort of thing. Any player who is still useful to the club will not be terminated unless they are deamed uncontrolable (ie Fev).[/quote]
Lol, read my first sentence again "And the Saints acted on Gram's crime and have terminated his contract". The AFL probably didn't have a say in Gram's termination, but there's no doubt that after the string of incidents in recent years gone by they would have pressured the clubs to punish the players more harshly rather than just a $5,000 fine and a slap on the wrist. I congratulate the Saints for having the guts to take it this far, it sends out a strong warning to the rest of their players and even the rest of the players in the AFL.[/quote]
I think you need to reread your own comments again. You state that Gram's contract was terminated (yes I saw the StKilda bit which is why I put the brackets at the end of my first line) and then follow this up with the AFL doesn't tolerate crap from its players anymore. Anyway I think I am done here I would just like to state that having a conversation with you is as bad as having one with Raiderdave, two sides to the same coin and both just as bias. Good luck with your future posts.[/quote]
Yes, I said the Saints terminated it and the AFL don't tolerate crap anymore. I backed that up in the post above saying that the AFL would have encouraged clubs to come down harder on players who misbehave and bring the game into disrepute, as traditionally it is the clubs who punish the players and not the AFL. This is probably why the Saints (who would have been on thin ice with the AFL) terminated Gram's contract.
