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Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:59 pm
by King-Eliagh
piesman2011 wrote:
The one comment which I can remember that I found racist from AFL Twat was "wogball" which if I remember was quickly followed by calling someone racist. If I had a guess I would say that AFL warrior is ignorant rather then truely racist. That my take on things. As for King being racist, I havent really seen it as of yet.
Quite a fair assessment there pies. AFL 'Warrior' is of concern but TLPG has jack diddly in his reference to me being racist, hence my posting of the picture before. It's just quite lame and I would hope there were rulings in here that dont allow certain members to lower themselves to such a standard.

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:12 pm
by TLPG
piesman2011 wrote:
As for King being racist, I havent really seen it as of yet.
He approves of the racist taunts that surrounded the SOO by trying to press the AFL as worse when they are a whole lot better. He tries to press the AFL as racist and the NRL as not when it's the other way around (and I'm referring to crowd behaviour by the way and what goes unpunished and what gets punished). He presses the AFL as "90% Anglo" which is a crock of crap.

All signs of racist conduct. Not as blatant as Warrior granted, but it's there!

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:20 pm
by piesman2011
TLPG wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
As for King being racist, I havent really seen it as of yet.
He approves of the racist taunts that surrounded the SOO by trying to press the AFL as worse when they are a whole lot better. He tries to press the AFL as racist and the NRL as not when it's the other way around (and I'm referring to crowd behaviour by the way and what goes unpunished and what gets punished). He presses the AFL as "90% Anglo" which is a crock of crap.

All signs of racist conduct. Not as blatant as Warrior granted, but it's there!
Most of it looks like an attempt to troll people, the stuff about the AFL being 90% anglo is either ignorance or more likely just to get a reaction out of a passionate supporter such as yourself. Same for trying to paint the AFL as racist, he doesn't believe it hes just looking for a reaction (hes a troll). If he approves of the racist taunts that surrounded the SOO then that is another matter. Do you approve of the racist taunts at the second SOO match this year King??

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:44 pm
by King-Eliagh
piesman2011 wrote:
TLPG wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
As for King being racist, I havent really seen it as of yet.
He approves of the racist taunts that surrounded the SOO by trying to press the AFL as worse when they are a whole lot better. He tries to press the AFL as racist and the NRL as not when it's the other way around (and I'm referring to crowd behaviour by the way and what goes unpunished and what gets punished). He presses the AFL as "90% Anglo" which is a crock of crap.

All signs of racist conduct. Not as blatant as Warrior granted, but it's there!
Most of it looks like an attempt to troll people, the stuff about the AFL being 90% anglo is either ignorance or more likely just to get a reaction out of a passionate supporter such as yourself. Same for trying to paint the AFL as racist, he doesn't believe it hes just looking for a reaction (hes a troll). If he approves of the racist taunts that surrounded the SOO then that is another matter. Do you approve of the racist taunts at the second SOO match this year King??
Lordy lordy me oh my. so many accusations and as per usual, not a skerrick of evidence. Pies you got it wrong too.

My posts on racism within the AFL organisation stem from the fact that RL members are far more often accepting the weaknesses of their code. Marngrookers, apart from the rare few, are quite simply the most one eyed beasts i've ever encountered. Thus I ilustrate with evidence some of the weaknesses of their peak organisation, the AFL. To say there has been much racism within the AFL is not an understatement. The NRL has had its fair share also but the stuff in the AFL concerns me more. This isnt trolling my friend this is how i see it and it is important to drill objectivity into the mucus filled skulls of said marngrook supporting members. As for the players of the AFL, I may be coming from an ignorant viewpoint but the vast majority of players in that comp look anglo to me. This is not racism, its simply an assertion. As I've said, it is highly amusing that TLPG blabs racist here and racist there when he clearly doesnt know what the concept entails. Amusing but getting old.

On the SOO question? How does go giiiit fukked sound? Again find the evidence of my "approval". Until then that's the most appropriate response I can give. Whats the saying? Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer.

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:46 pm
by TLPG
He does believe it, Pies, and his post above this proves it - especially avoiding your question. And he's a troll, that's true. A racist troll.

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:25 pm
by piesman2011
King-Eliagh wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
TLPG wrote:
He approves of the racist taunts that surrounded the SOO by trying to press the AFL as worse when they are a whole lot better. He tries to press the AFL as racist and the NRL as not when it's the other way around (and I'm referring to crowd behaviour by the way and what goes unpunished and what gets punished). He presses the AFL as "90% Anglo" which is a crock of crap.

All signs of racist conduct. Not as blatant as Warrior granted, but it's there!
Most of it looks like an attempt to troll people, the stuff about the AFL being 90% anglo is either ignorance or more likely just to get a reaction out of a passionate supporter such as yourself. Same for trying to paint the AFL as racist, he doesn't believe it hes just looking for a reaction (hes a troll). If he approves of the racist taunts that surrounded the SOO then that is another matter. Do you approve of the racist taunts at the second SOO match this year King??
Lordy lordy me oh my. so many accusations and as per usual, not a skerrick of evidence. Pies you got it wrong too.

My posts on racism within the AFL organisation stem from the fact that RL members are far more often accepting the weaknesses of their code. Marngrookers, apart from the rare few, are quite simply the most one eyed beasts i've ever encountered. Thus I ilustrate with evidence some of the weaknesses of their peak organisation, the AFL. To say there has been much racism within the AFL is not an understatement. The NRL has had its fair share also but the stuff in the AFL concerns me more. This isnt trolling my friend this is how i see it and it is important to drill objectivity into the mucus filled skulls of said marngrook supporting members. As for the players of the AFL, I may be coming from an ignorant viewpoint but the vast majority of players in that comp look anglo to me. This is not racism, its simply an assertion. As I've said, it is highly amusing that TLPG blabs racist here and racist there when he clearly doesnt know what the concept entails. Amusing but getting old.
There have definately been issues with AFL and racism over the years thats for sure. I wouldn't claim to know if RL members are far more accepting of different races because I dont think you or me really know if this is true. Maybe the NRL have a similar issue but it has been swept under the carpet. The SOO racism event got barely a whisper of news reported on that (maybe I missed all of the fuss). One supporter was recently denounced by an AFL player and by fellow Collingwood members, when he made racist remarks. Why didn't this happen at the SOO match where there was an undercurrent of racism dirrected towards the Queensland indiginous players? Maybe I am wrong but this suggests to me that the NRL is in denial, while the AFL is one step in front with admitting they have a problem and trying to fix it (at least with the crowd). I agree the NRL is probabaly one step infront with their players being more tolarent. However the AFL in my opinion is doing a good job (for the last 20 years) to let the players know what is acceptable and what is not. Sledging is a ingrained part of AFL and once every 5-10 years a player with a low IQ attempts to give an opponent a sledge and fails badly.
King-Eliagh wrote:
On the SOO question? How does go giiiit fukked sound? Again find the evidence of my "approval". Until then that's the most appropriate response I can give. Whats the saying? Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer.
Excellent answer and I had very little doubt that you ever said anything of that nature (I wasn't 100 % sure). A little of that was tounge in cheek. I guess TLPG should probabaly post what you said or stop making that claim.

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:42 pm
by piesman2011
TLPG wrote:
He does believe it, Pies, and his post above this proves it - especially avoiding your question. And he's a troll, that's true. A racist troll.

There is no way I can chance you opinion on the matter mate, however I will give you my opinion. If someone believes that an organisation does not do enough to combat racism even though they are wrong. This doesn't make them a racist. If someone believes that an organisation is made up of 90% anglosaxons (falsely) again doesn't make them racist. As to the issue with approving the SOO racism, show me a post and I will agree with you. Until then in my opinion I would have to agree with Kings. Sorry but thats only fair.

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:48 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
Piesman thinking he's the ref lol.

Fucking brown noser :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:00 am
by TLPG
piesman2011 wrote:
TLPG wrote:
He does believe it, Pies, and his post above this proves it - especially avoiding your question. And he's a troll, that's true. A racist troll.
There is no way I can chance you opinion on the matter mate, however I will give you my opinion. If someone believes that an organisation does not do enough to combat racism even though they are wrong. This doesn't make them a racist. If someone believes that an organisation is made up of 90% anglosaxons (falsely) again doesn't make them racist. As to the issue with approving the SOO racism, show me a post and I will agree with you. Until then in my opinion I would have to agree with Kings. Sorry but thats only fair.
It isn't a case of what he did say, Pies. It's about what he DIDN'T say. There has been NO criticism of the SOO racism. None. Ditto the lack of NRL intervention on the subject - certainly compared to the AFL. He's been concentrating on his falsity that you recognised, and in fact that DOES make him racist simply because he is lying by trying to play down the presence of non Anglo-Saxons - like Greeks and Italians (not to mention those with Aboriginal blood).

The point is that he is refusing to deny what a non racist would deny without hesitation.

Does that help?

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:33 am
by AFL Warrior
So funny to see you lefty greenie types pretending to not be racist and having the nerver to say I am a racist. I cannot be racist as I have many Native friends and may even be a Native myself. Islanders on the other are trouble. That is not being racist but a fact, so sue me losers!

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:49 am
by King-Eliagh
TLPG wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
TLPG wrote:
He does believe it, Pies, and his post above this proves it - especially avoiding your question. And he's a troll, that's true. A racist troll.
There is no way I can chance you opinion on the matter mate, however I will give you my opinion. If someone believes that an organisation does not do enough to combat racism even though they are wrong. This doesn't make them a racist. If someone believes that an organisation is made up of 90% anglosaxons (falsely) again doesn't make them racist. As to the issue with approving the SOO racism, show me a post and I will agree with you. Until then in my opinion I would have to agree with Kings. Sorry but thats only fair.
It isn't a case of what he did say, Pies. It's about what he DIDN'T say. There has been NO criticism of the SOO racism. None. Ditto the lack of NRL intervention on the subject - certainly compared to the AFL. He's been concentrating on his falsity that you recognised, and in fact that DOES make him racist simply because he is lying by trying to play down the presence of non Anglo-Saxons - like Greeks and Italians (not to mention those with Aboriginal blood).

The point is that he is refusing to deny what a non racist would deny without hesitation.

Does that help?
That helps alright. It helps point all fingers at you my friend :lol:

I'm not going out of my way to find my posts but i recall criticising the bums who cowardly yelped abuse from the sidelines. I also correctly stated that it is difficult for the NRL to take action on this. I guess you took that action as racism. TLPG, again, you really dont understand the concept and are looking like nothin but a two bit desperado here trying your darndest to prove something that simply aint true. It's lamo and you oughtta take a different tact.

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:53 am
by eelofwest
AFL Warrior wrote:
So funny to see you lefty greenie types pretending to not be racist and having the nerver to say I am a racist. I cannot be racist as I have many Native friends and may even be a Native myself. Islanders on the other are trouble. That is not being racist but a fact, so sue me losers!
No offense to anyone here, but i hate the Leftie Greenie movement.......Oh and Julie just fuck of out of our life's please....Not long now guys.. :lol: :lol:

I am a conservative can you tell...?? :lol:

Btw not all islanders are trouble. Mate your ignorance again is amazing to behold AFL Warrior.

You talk like my Dad does and hes grew up in the 60's-70s, but hes old school and is a product of his generation......whats your excuse AFL warrior?????

I do feel for People like you AFL warrior, to think that you have these stereotypes imbedded deep down is sad really.

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:17 am
by AFL Warrior
Eelofwest have you got this habit of feeling up people huh? The Warrior is also old school and the truth can hurt.

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:09 pm
by piesman2011
AFL Warrior wrote:
So funny to see you lefty greenie types pretending to not be racist and having the nerver to say I am a racist. I cannot be racist as I have many Native friends and may even be a Native myself. Islanders on the other are trouble. That is not being racist but a fact, so sue me losers!

I hope you are trolling and are not that dumb. That second last sentence is racists there is not escaping it. The key to racism is that if you group a bunch of people together for example "islanders" and then make a general broad sweeping negative statement like "are trouble", this is racist. If you cant see that then you are racist and ignorant. See how I specified you and I didn't direct that at say all AFL warriors. Heres another fact for you. You dont have to be a white anglo to be racist.

Re: The nrl condones Colonialism

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:29 pm
by King-Eliagh
"Ignorant and racist" :lol:

Pies his appropriate nic which i coined some months ago now is Racist neanderthal bogan child - who perhaps looks something like this.

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We cant be certain its him though as we presume he would have some more neanderthal traits...