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AFL has ten times the ratings of NRL. The NRL just got the same dollars. How good are the NRL negotiating team?

Even now the dollars are known these nonsense claims from the AFL crew persist.
Show me how 225 million in cash less is equal.Dont you find it strange that they couldnt find a buyer for internet rights oh thats right theyve already sold 70 percent and left out telstra.Only in the land of the League.A strange place where numbers are fudged,lies are told and egos take center stage.Where men follow the yellow brick road to the Gyngall wizard who will tell you when to play your game.who will play and when you will watch it.Now if he could only give you a brain.lol
The gyngal wizard....... :-k

Mate all i can say for you is smoking weed it hurts your brain cells :D , time to give up i think... :lol:

AFL 18 1.250million minus the 220million minimum for GWS and Suns to survive, minus the 6million dollar marketing tools Khunt and Falou = 1.018million now lets take into account that the AFL average crowd has dropped nearly 4 k this year and it is clear to anyone that the 4FTA games are loosing your clubs huge amount of money through the gate.

NRL 16 1.025million + 100-150million for internet rights and add our broadcast rights for the NZ warriors of 100million = 1.275million

This thread is about TV deals and who got the better deals, financially the NRL deals are far superior by close to 250million. Coverage the AFL is superior end of story.
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eelofwest wrote:
pookus wrote:
enarelle wrote:
AFL has ten times the ratings of NRL. The NRL just got the same dollars. How good are the NRL negotiating team?

Even now the dollars are known these nonsense claims from the AFL crew persist.
Show me how 225 million in cash less is equal.Dont you find it strange that they couldnt find a buyer for internet rights oh thats right theyve already sold 70 percent and left out telstra.Only in the land of the League.A strange place where numbers are fudged,lies are told and egos take center stage.Where men follow the yellow brick road to the Gyngall wizard who will tell you when to play your game.who will play and when you will watch it.Now if he could only give you a brain.lol
The gyngal wizard....... :-k

Mate all i can say for you is smoking weed it hurts your brain cells :D , time to give up i think... :lol:

AFL 18 1.250million minus the 220million minimum for GWS and Suns to survive, minus the 6million dollar marketing tools Khunt and Falou = 1.018million now lets take into account that the AFL average crowd has dropped nearly 4 k this year and it is clear to anyone that the 4FTA games are loosing your clubs huge amount of money through the gate.

NRL 16 1.025million + 100-150million for internet rights and add our broadcast rights for the NZ warriors of 100million = 1.275million

This thread is about TV deals and who got the better deals, financially the NRL deals are far superior by close to 250million. Coverage the AFL is superior end of story.
Please explain how 1.025b is a better deal than 1.253b :lol: :lol: :lol:

Please explain how 3fta games with one being live, plus 5 foxtel games is better than 4 live FTA games and 9 foxtel games :lol: :lol: :lol:

And hasn't the NRLs limited TV coverage on Saturday made a massive difference to their crowds. Yesterday their 3 games had a total audience of 33k.

The swans were live on FTA but got 31k. The suns were live on FTA and got 15k. The eagles were live on TV and got 40k.
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Here are some opinion from NRL fans:
This deal is not a win for fans. It is a win for the NRL administrators because they have a clear agenda under new authority to boost attendance numbers at venues. What of the fans who love the game but for whatever reason cannot make it to watch their team play or can't afford Foxtel? Channel Nine, in particular, could come to regret this deal as a short-term financial gain but an overall loss of viewer loyalty and hence a decline in its advertising revenue. It simply doesn't have the programs to make up the shortfall.
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Make no mistake, this is a win. Many will complain that there's only one live game in Sydney every weekend but the stark reality is the more live games, the less money for the rights. To match the AFL and get four live games means maybe $200 million less from the networks. The NRL has done the right thing here. The short-term revenue is more important for now. Maybe next time the NRL will be in a better position to compromise on cash to get more live games. The fans just need to suck it up and understand the money will benefit the game in the long term.
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How does rugby league expect to grow a support base if it is not readily accessible to the fans of tomorrow? Limited coverage and night grand finals mean viewing on television is not practical for small children, let alone any dream of actually attending. Developing interest in sports for children is really important, and I wish league could learn more from the failures of rugby union in recent years.
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The new deal has changed virtually nothing for the fans. I appreciate the NRL's need to get the best deal possible so they can keep the best players and grow the code. The issue is delayed coverage. With the growing influence of technology in our lives, not finding out a score has become almost impossible. I have not managed to get through one delayed Channel Nine game this season without finding out the score. While the delays annoy me, it is much worse for the younger generation of fans who are not awake at 10pm on a Friday. At least the AFL lets me watch Israel Folau live.
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The new deal is a pathetic outcome for the fans who have been treated badly by Channel Nine for so long. It will contribute to more people watching AFL and fewer watching NRL. Channel Seven shows four live AFL matches a week in Sydney by making use of its digital channels. It seems as if Channel Ten was offering something similar for NRL. It's inconceivable that in 2013 we can have only one live NRL match on free-to-air and not a single one on a Saturday. With the advent of digital channels and online options, pay TV subscriptions will stagnate. The new deal demonstrates the commission has little regard for fans and is interested in only the dollars.
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The deal is as good as it gets. The coverage is the same but the money has doubled. Plus, News has given up first and last rights. I have Foxtel and watch every game it covers. It's much better than Channel Nine and with much better commentators, who don't waffle about garbage. If you don't have Foxtel, do what I did and prioritise your spending - maybe give up the grog and smokes - but please, stop whingeing about it.
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The deal done by the NRL with Channel Nine is another kick in the guts for grassroots league fans. There are no NRL games on free-to-air TV on a Saturday, so if you don't have pay TV, tough luck. It won't take long for the free-to-air TV viewers to change their viewing to AFL. That's the only choice they have. The almighty dollar wins over the game, which without fans will slowly die. Well done to the NRL commission, you are no better than the previous managers of our game.
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The NRL has seen great growth on the back of quality coverage of the sport on television. This is a major factor that has enabled the NRL to quantify the legitimacy of such a large deal. Not to broadcast the games to the present standard and decrease the number of live games shown to potentially one a week would be a disaster for the game. It would result in a massive drop in viewers, which would reduce the amount of money spent on advertising. In five years, when broadcasting rights are renegotiated, the value would drop significantly and the game would not see its potential growth. This is a great deal financially, but sometimes short-term gains have to be considered in light of future results. The dictated scheduling ensures more night games, designed purely to keep people at home rather than attending and thereby making the NRL's already poor crowds a laughing stock among competitors. Thursday night, the awful 5.30 Saturday timeslot and Monday highlight the disregard for attending spectators. Rugby league is the only major sporting code that sells its soul for TV rights. More lucrative and popular codes such as the National Football League (US), English Premier League and the Australian Football League all play most games during daylight and their full houses help improve their product.
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The TV deal may be great for the game but not for fans. Other sports around the world showcase their sport live every week, whereas Channel Nine is not giving the fans that opportunity. Many argue that if you want to see a game live, why don't you go to the ground? Well, that's OK if you live in the city, but that's extremely hard for a supporter from the bush. Surely the next TV deal will make sure that all free-to-air games are shown live and in a way that can keep all parties happy.
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The NRL has looked at the short-term gain, but have not made an accurate assessment of how this will affect its fan base in western Sydney. There will be droves of fans who will miss out on the action every week and, more importantly for the code, it will have less visibility for potential fans of the next generation. This strategy of short-term gain without looking at the long-term picture is almost a carbon copy of the federal government's strategy with the mining tax, a strategy that offers short-term cash injection but has mining companies looking for somewhere else to invest. NRL fans to AFL perhaps? Works for me as an AFL fan.
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These are the numbers that matter, the only RL fans complaining are the ones on FTA who want free lunches... :lol: Time to upgrade to Fox guys.

AFL 18 1.250million minus the 220million minimum for GWS and Suns to survive, minus the 6million dollar marketing tools Khunt and Falou = 1.018million now lets take into account that the AFL average crowd has dropped nearly 4 k this year and it is clear to anyone that the 4FTA games are loosing your clubs huge amount of money through the gate.

NRL 16 1.025million + 100-150million for internet rights and add our broadcast rights for the NZ warriors of 100million = 1.275million

This thread is about TV deals and who got the better deals, financially the NRL deals are far superior by just over 250million. Coverage the AFL is superior end of story.
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These are the numbers that matter, the only RL fans complaining are the ones on FTA who want free lunches... :lol: Time to upgrade to Fox guys.

AFL 18 1.250million minus the 220million minimum for GWS and Suns to survive, minus the 6million dollar marketing tools Khunt and Falou = 1.018million now lets take into account that the AFL average crowd has dropped nearly 4 k this year and it is clear to anyone that the 4FTA games are loosing your clubs huge amount of money through the gate.

NRL 16 1.025million + 100-150million for internet rights and add our broadcast rights for the NZ warriors of 100million = 1.275million

This thread is about TV deals and who got the better deals, financially the NRL deals are far superior by just over 250million. Coverage the AFL is superior end of story.
So you're going to deduct the AFLs expansion spending from the payment ch7 and fox give them. :-k

Ok, let's deduct the increase in salary cap from the NRL. Let's also deduct the increase in payments to each NRL club. Then, if the NRL wish to expand we should deduct those payments to. Then we'll deduct any payments for grass roots RL development.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Let's face it. You're sticking up for the deal because you can't bare the AFL winning the TV war, the only possible area the NRL can compete in. But most NRL fans seem very unhappy with a deal that has such poor tv coverage in comparison to the code they are in competition with. :wink:
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eelofwest wrote:
now lets take into account that the AFL average crowd has dropped nearly 4 k this year and it is clear to anyone that the 4FTA games are loosing your clubs huge amount of money through the gate.
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THE AFL has been encouraged by attendances this season in the initial year of its new five-season broadcast agreement, where all games are shown live against the gate for the first time.

AFL chief operating officer Gillon McLachlan said yesterday there had been a positive correlation between live television audiences and match attendances.

The league yesterday pointed to the example of Friday night games on free-to-air and Foxtel up to round 20 which have experienced a 43 per cent increase in average audiences, while average crowd numbers are up by 16 per cent on last year's figures.

McLachlan said the AFL had budgeted for a fall-off in average crowds because of the introduction of smaller clubs Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney, but was heartened by the increased attendances in Western Australia and South Australia in particular.

The number of home-and-away games has increased from 176 two years ago to 198 this year, with 44 involving Gold Coast and GWS, and premiership matches in every state and territory.


"We are restructuring for the future and we've now got a framework to build on, which we see carrying us forward for the next 15 to 20 years," McLachlan said of the impact of two new clubs in 18 months.

"So essentially, what we've done is we've invested in the future for growth, and when you do that, you have to re-align the baseline."

Taking into account ground redevelopments at the SCG and Simonds Stadium, where capacity has been vastly reduced this season, average attendances are slightly higher than in 2010. Overall, the 2010 average attendance of 38,635 has been slightly less this season -- 38,525 -- from fewer games between the traditional clubs.

"Crowds are an important reflection of brand strength," McLachlan said. "There are a whole series of measures, though they're one, and when you put in two new start-up clubs in developing markets that are, by definition, smaller than the existing 16 clubs, you have to expect a drop in the average. We understand the numbers, we are behind them, and we recalibrate the baseline given a new framework for the next 15-20 years, (it is) a new structure."

McLachlan explained the AFL's philosophy concerning the growth of the game compared with crowd numbers, by saying: "A sell-out crowd and a fabulous game in front of 15,000 to 16,000 people in Hobart, I think is a better outcome for the Kangaroos and for football nationally than losing 7000 or 8000 in attendance if the match was played at Etihad. That brings the average down, but in my view, it's the right outcome for football."

Queensland average crowds decreased by 32 per cent between 2010 and last year due to market-specific factors, including floods and the state of the economy, but have since stabilised. More than 50,000 more fans have attended AAMI Stadium this year than last on the back of a stronger Crows, while the rise of the Dockers has been the main reason for overall attendances to increase to 675,000 at Patersons Stadium.

Another 100,000 fans have experienced an AFL game in NSW this year due to the entry of GWS, despite SCG crowds decreasing by an average of 6000 due to the redevelopment.

Crowds in Victoria are down by about 150,000 due to less exposure between the traditional clubs because of the 10 games played by Gold Coast and GWS at the MCG, Etihad Stadium and Simonds Stadium.
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