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Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:10 am
by leagueiscrap
pussycat wrote:
I have never ever said that our regular season NRL matches ,which make up 75% of the NRL,will Out rate the AFL club competition in total ratings and thats because you 22 extra FTA , or rather 20 odd extra in Melb, , 20 odd extra matches in Adelaide, 20 odd extra in Perth, 2o extra in Sydney and 2o odd extra matches in Brisbane + another 80 more PTV matches . There not miracle workers. Easy winners, but not miracle workers.

The NRL didn't throw anything at the TV networks. As you said the networks payed roughly the same amount of money. And in the case of the NRL for a lot less product.
the networks payed for the AFL H&A season
the networks payed for the NRL its H&A season, international stuff, the RLWC, & SOO which is apparently worth up to as much as 30% of the whole broadcast rights.
so no the NRL broacsast got similar money for a whole heap more product

wookie do you still have that article about much the SOO is apparently worth to the overall broadcast deal?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:38 am
by pussycat
leagueiscrap wrote:
pussycat wrote:
I have never ever said that our regular season NRL matches ,which make up 75% of the NRL,will Out rate the AFL club competition in total ratings and thats because you 22 extra FTA , or rather 20 odd extra in Melb, , 20 odd extra matches in Adelaide, 20 odd extra in Perth, 2o extra in Sydney and 2o odd extra matches in Brisbane + another 80 more PTV matches . There not miracle workers. Easy winners, but not miracle workers.

The NRL didn't throw anything at the TV networks. As you said the networks payed roughly the same amount of money. And in the case of the NRL for a lot less product.
the networks payed for the AFL H&A season
the networks payed for the NRL its H&A season, international stuff, the RLWC, & SOO which is apparently worth up to as much as 30% of the whole broadcast rights.
so no the NRL broacsast got similar money for a whole heap more product

wookie do you still have that article about much the SOO is apparently worth to the overall broadcast deal?

Over 100 extra matches for the AFL ? how do you consider this to mean the NRL broadcasters got similar money for a heap more product?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:43 am
by leagueiscrap
pussycat wrote:
leagueiscrap wrote:
pussycat wrote:
I have never ever said that our regular season NRL matches ,which make up 75% of the NRL,will Out rate the AFL club competition in total ratings and thats because you 22 extra FTA , or rather 20 odd extra in Melb, , 20 odd extra matches in Adelaide, 20 odd extra in Perth, 2o extra in Sydney and 2o odd extra matches in Brisbane + another 80 more PTV matches . There not miracle workers. Easy winners, but not miracle workers.

The NRL didn't throw anything at the TV networks. As you said the networks payed roughly the same amount of money. And in the case of the NRL for a lot less product.
the networks payed for the AFL H&A season
the networks payed for the NRL its H&A season, international stuff, the RLWC, & SOO which is apparently worth up to as much as 30% of the whole broadcast rights.
so no the NRL broacsast got similar money for a whole heap more product

wookie do you still have that article about much the SOO is apparently worth to the overall broadcast deal?

Over 100 extra matches for the AFL ? how do you consider this to mean the NRL broadcasters got similar money for a heap more product?
break down the different components
SOO aparently worth around 30% of total broadcast rights
RL WC
rep games
Australia test matches
the H&A season. yes less games are shown on nine but nine pick and choose the games & show them when they choose to.

broken down it is no where near as great as you make it out to be

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:04 pm
by pussycat
leagueiscrap wrote:
pussycat wrote:
leagueiscrap wrote:
pussycat wrote:
I have never ever said that our regular season NRL matches ,which make up 75% of the NRL,will Out rate the AFL club competition in total ratings and thats because you 22 extra FTA , or rather 20 odd extra in Melb, , 20 odd extra matches in Adelaide, 20 odd extra in Perth, 2o extra in Sydney and 2o odd extra matches in Brisbane + another 80 more PTV matches . There not miracle workers. Easy winners, but not miracle workers.

The NRL didn't throw anything at the TV networks. As you said the networks payed roughly the same amount of money. And in the case of the NRL for a lot less product.
the networks payed for the AFL H&A season
the networks payed for the NRL its H&A season, international stuff, the RLWC, & SOO which is apparently worth up to as much as 30% of the whole broadcast rights.
so no the NRL broacsast got similar money for a whole heap more product

wookie do you still have that article about much the SOO is apparently worth to the overall broadcast deal?

Over 100 extra matches for the AFL ? how do you consider this to mean the NRL broadcasters got similar money for a heap more product?
break down the different components
SOO aparently worth around 30% of total broadcast rights
RL WC
rep games
Australia test matches
the H&A season. yes less games are shown on nine but nine pick and choose the games & show them when they choose to.

broken down it is no where near as great as you make it out to be
And it certainly isn't a heep more product product.

The NRL chose there draw before the start of the season (and the bottom clubs aren't left out)

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:15 pm
by leagueiscrap
pussycat wrote:
leagueiscrap wrote:
pussycat wrote:
leagueiscrap wrote:
pussycat wrote:
I have never ever said that our regular season NRL matches ,which make up 75% of the NRL,will Out rate the AFL club competition in total ratings and thats because you 22 extra FTA , or rather 20 odd extra in Melb, , 20 odd extra matches in Adelaide, 20 odd extra in Perth, 2o extra in Sydney and 2o odd extra matches in Brisbane + another 80 more PTV matches . There not miracle workers. Easy winners, but not miracle workers.

The NRL didn't throw anything at the TV networks. As you said the networks payed roughly the same amount of money. And in the case of the NRL for a lot less product.
the networks payed for the AFL H&A season
the networks payed for the NRL its H&A season, international stuff, the RLWC, & SOO which is apparently worth up to as much as 30% of the whole broadcast rights.
so no the NRL broacsast got similar money for a whole heap more product

wookie do you still have that article about much the SOO is apparently worth to the overall broadcast deal?

Over 100 extra matches for the AFL ? how do you consider this to mean the NRL broadcasters got similar money for a heap more product?
break down the different components
SOO aparently worth around 30% of total broadcast rights
RL WC
rep games
Australia test matches
the H&A season. yes less games are shown on nine but nine pick and choose the games & show them when they choose to.

broken down it is no where near as great as you make it out to be
And it certainly isn't a heep more product product.

The NRL chose there draw before the start of the season (and the bottom clubs aren't left out)
well aparently soo is worth 30% of the whole broadcast rights
take out the rep stuff and the international stuff
how much would the NRL get just for their H&A round

it would only be around half of what the AFL got :lol:

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:39 pm
by pussycat
According to your figures, that would mean that 50% of the NRL is worth over 100m viewers - Wow :cheers:

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:59 pm
by leagueiscrap
pussycat wrote:
According to your figures, that would mean that 50% of the NRL is worth over 100m viewers - Wow :cheers:
wtf are you on about?
simple the NRL H&A season would be worth around half or two thirds to what the AFL one is :lol:

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:07 pm
by Raiderdave
leagueiscrap wrote:
pussycat wrote:
According to your figures, that would mean that 50% of the NRL is worth over 100m viewers - Wow :cheers:
wtf are you on about?
simple the NRL H&A season would be worth around half or two thirds to what the AFL one is :lol:
8-[

:?>

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>
counting on yr fat metho soaked fingers are we dumb dumb ? :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk:

the RL has less content
for about the same money

RL
Australias most valuable sporting commodity on TV :cool:
deal with it
you lying ***** :wink:

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:18 pm
by leagueiscrap
Raiderdave wrote:
leagueiscrap wrote:
pussycat wrote:
According to your figures, that would mean that 50% of the NRL is worth over 100m viewers - Wow :cheers:
wtf are you on about?
simple the NRL H&A season would be worth around half or two thirds to what the AFL one is :lol:
8-[

:?>

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>
counting on yr fat metho soaked fingers are we dumb dumb ? :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk:

the RL has less content
for about the same money

RL
Australias most valuable sporting commodity on TV :cool:
deal with it
you lying ***** :wink:
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Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:20 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
:_<> :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :_<>

The ARLC got as much money as the AFL did all while having less games shown on TV and having to fight tooth and nail to get rid of the first and last rights agreement.

but but but.

yeah, next time will be but but but wont it.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:39 pm
by NlolRL
pussycat wrote:
NlolRL wrote:
pussycat wrote:
I have never said an average doesn't matter . There is nothing more important than the average when its for a real category like Pay TV or FTA, not some meaningless bogus average like you get when add two very different things together and try to average them out.

Aren't winning???????????????????? arn't winning what? FTA = 800k PTV = 211.5k. :?>


And I would be to embarrassed to tell people that you finished 10m in front over the regular season, I certainly wouldn't be bragging about it. 22 extra matches on FTA, 80 extra PTV matches and you could only manage 10m ratings more - Wow, how humiliating that must be for the AFL..
You're pathetically desperate! Splitting FTA and foxtel to suite your argument is laughable because the AFL show 4 games a week on both at the same time which splits their audience. Add to that most foxtel games are shown against another game on fox, lowering the average.

As for your "80 extra games" garbage, the NRL show far far more games in isolation to their entire audience than the AFL, and far more in prime time to maximise ratings. Add to that they have a flexible schedule and STiLL they got hammered! :(/

Totals are the only fair way to gauge the winner with this sort of arrangement. Unfortunately for you it wasn't the NRL, and you're mighty pissed :rock:
NlolRL wrote:
pussycat wrote:
I have never said an average doesn't matter . There is nothing more important than the average when its for a real category like Pay TV or FTA, not some meaningless bogus average like you get when add two very different things together and try to average them out.

Aren't winning???????????????????? arn't winning what? FTA = 800k PTV = 211.5k. :?>


And I would be to embarrassed to tell people that you finished 10m in front over the regular season, I certainly wouldn't be bragging about it. 22 extra matches on FTA, 80 extra PTV matches and you could only manage 10m ratings more - Wow, how humiliating that must be for the AFL..
You're pathetically desperate! Splitting FTA and foxtel to suite your argument is laughable because the AFL show 4 games a week on both at the same time which splits their audience. Add to that most foxtel games are shown against another game on fox, lowering the average.

As for your "80 extra games" garbage, the NRL show far far more games in isolation to their entire audience than the AFL, and far more in prime time to maximise ratings. Add to that they have a flexible schedule and STiLL they got hammered! :(/

Totals are the only fair way to gauge the winner with this sort of arrangement. Unfortunately for you it wasn't the NRL, and you're mighty pissed :rock:
Of course you sepaqrate different thing! Pay TV goes to 30% of viewers and FTA goes to all viewers . They are too different things. You treat them separately, that shouldn't be that difficult a concept. And on PTV we rate better and on FTA we rate better - so learn to live with it. And the part about the NRL showing 3 matches a week isn't a difficult concept either,

80 matches is garbage, It is infact over 100 matches, The 80 figure is for PTV matches alone.

Totals = sheer weight of numberss :(/ :(/ :(/ 100 more :(/ :(/ . Averages the NRL wins on PTV and on FTA

The NRL shows 1 FTA game a week in Prime Time the AFL 2 - so, wrong again

Flexible schedule ???? The first20 rounds are picked in advance - and all teams are selected (even the bottom sides are eligibe).
Your hilarious excuse making is reaching epic proportions and is a clear sign your delusion about being the premier TV sport is coming crashing down.

No, you don't seperate ratings of the same telecast of the same game, just like you guys have complained for years that the regionals were seperated from the FTA total. Well Weve counted them which icovers your entire audience. It's only fair we also count the entire AFL audience which includes foxtel.

The reality is the number of games is the important factor, and both codes have around 200 per year. And when you add up all the ratings for these games from all telecasts, the AFL is streets ahead.

And its burst your little bubble :\: :\:

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:10 pm
by pussycat
NlolRL wrote:
pussycat wrote:
NlolRL wrote:
pussycat wrote:
I have never said an average doesn't matter . There is nothing more important than the average when its for a real category like Pay TV or FTA, not some meaningless bogus average like you get when add two very different things together and try to average them out.

Aren't winning???????????????????? arn't winning what? FTA = 800k PTV = 211.5k. :?>


And I would be to embarrassed to tell people that you finished 10m in front over the regular season, I certainly wouldn't be bragging about it. 22 extra matches on FTA, 80 extra PTV matches and you could only manage 10m ratings more - Wow, how humiliating that must be for the AFL..
You're pathetically desperate! Splitting FTA and foxtel to suite your argument is laughable because the AFL show 4 games a week on both at the same time which splits their audience. Add to that most foxtel games are shown against another game on fox, lowering the average.

As for your "80 extra games" garbage, the NRL show far far more games in isolation to their entire audience than the AFL, and far more in prime time to maximise ratings. Add to that they have a flexible schedule and STiLL they got hammered! :(/

Totals are the only fair way to gauge the winner with this sort of arrangement. Unfortunately for you it wasn't the NRL, and you're mighty pissed :rock:
NlolRL wrote:
pussycat wrote:
I have never said an average doesn't matter . There is nothing more important than the average when its for a real category like Pay TV or FTA, not some meaningless bogus average like you get when add two very different things together and try to average them out.

Aren't winning???????????????????? arn't winning what? FTA = 800k PTV = 211.5k. :?>


And I would be to embarrassed to tell people that you finished 10m in front over the regular season, I certainly wouldn't be bragging about it. 22 extra matches on FTA, 80 extra PTV matches and you could only manage 10m ratings more - Wow, how humiliating that must be for the AFL..
You're pathetically desperate! Splitting FTA and foxtel to suite your argument is laughable because the AFL show 4 games a week on both at the same time which splits their audience. Add to that most foxtel games are shown against another game on fox, lowering the average.

As for your "80 extra games" garbage, the NRL show far far more games in isolation to their entire audience than the AFL, and far more in prime time to maximise ratings. Add to that they have a flexible schedule and STiLL they got hammered! :(/

Totals are the only fair way to gauge the winner with this sort of arrangement. Unfortunately for you it wasn't the NRL, and you're mighty pissed :rock:
Of course you sepaqrate different thing! Pay TV goes to 30% of viewers and FTA goes to all viewers . They are too different things. You treat them separately, that shouldn't be that difficult a concept. And on PTV we rate better and on FTA we rate better - so learn to live with it. And the part about the NRL showing 3 matches a week isn't a difficult concept either,

80 matches is garbage, It is infact over 100 matches, The 80 figure is for PTV matches alone.

Totals = sheer weight of numberss :(/ :(/ :(/ 100 more :(/ :(/ . Averages the NRL wins on PTV and on FTA

The NRL shows 1 FTA game a week in Prime Time the AFL 2 - so, wrong again

Flexible schedule ???? The first20 rounds are picked in advance - and all teams are selected (even the bottom sides are eligibe).
Your hilarious excuse making is reaching epic proportions and is a clear sign your delusion about being the premier TV sport is coming crashing down.

No, you don't seperate ratings of the same telecast of the same game, just like you guys have complained for years that the regionals were seperated from the FTA total. Well Weve counted them which icovers your entire audience. It's only fair we also count the entire AFL audience which includes foxtel.

The reality is the number of games is the important factor, and both codes have around 200 per year. And when you add up all the ratings for these games from all telecasts, the AFL is streets ahead.

And its burst your little bubble :\: :\:

200 games??? :-$ [-( [-(


Regional ratings are as much a part of FTA ratings. :?>


There are only two ways of getting ratings and we outrate you on Pay Tv by about 20k amatch, we outrate you on FTA by god knows how many. Quantity means nothing in this case. The very fact that the AFL club competition needs an additional 20 more FTA matches and man many more PTV matches to be ahead by just 15m or so is pathetic - its beyond pathetic.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:49 pm
by NlolRL
What are you on about? The AFL have 198 home and away games plus 9 finals for a total of 207 games, all shown on TV.

The NRL have 192 home and away games, plus 9 finals, plus 3 SOO, for a total of 204 games, all shown on TV.

So the difference is a mere 3 games. Yet what are the total TV ratings for all these games? We are miles ahead, miles.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:18 pm
by pussycat
Firstly were talking about the present and were talking about club football . So forget about the other for the time being. Thats an argument for another day.

PTV matches: the NRL has 5 x 24 most weeks though not all -5 = 115 , the AFL has 9 x 22 = 198

FTA matches : the NRL has 3 x 24 = 68 , The AFL have . I don't know the number but its many more.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:59 pm
by Phelpsy
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
:_<> :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :_<>

The ARLC got as much money as the AFL did all while having less games shown on TV and having to fight tooth and nail to get rid of the first and last rights agreement.

but but but.

yeah, next time will be but but but wont it.

Well no they didn't ... And what money they did get was a year after the AFL deal ... So factor in inflation to that etc.