Talking Footy

NlolRL wrote: Sat May 27, 2017 10:46 am

ParraEelsNRL wrote: Sat May 27, 2017 10:43 am

lol, if and when the NRL puts teams in other states, they'll have support. You seem to think RL has no history at all in these states yet how come all the touring sides used to stop off in all the states and territories (bar Tasmania) and play state sides and or clubs and have done since way back in the 1940's? They only stopped really in the 90's when the SL was made and the UK clubs switched to summer meaning the old tours from the Poms and the French and Kiwis stopped.

I have old books here with crowds and gate receipts going back to some of the first tours of those states. Heck even South Australia was an annual stop off and used to average around 10k in some old stadium over there. Not bad considering they had no real contact with the rl heartlands like today and they had no TV when it all started. So there must have been interest and there is still interest. The NRL have yet to tap into it properly.

the ratings for NRL from WA and SA are horrendous. Good luck expanding there

NRL&NFLweLaughATafl wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 7:23 am

NlolRL wrote: Sat May 27, 2017 10:46 am

ParraEelsNRL wrote: Sat May 27, 2017 10:43 am

lol, if and when the NRL puts teams in other states, they'll have support. You seem to think RL has no history at all in these states yet how come all the touring sides used to stop off in all the states and territories (bar Tasmania) and play state sides and or clubs and have done since way back in the 1940's? They only stopped really in the 90's when the SL was made and the UK clubs switched to summer meaning the old tours from the Poms and the French and Kiwis stopped.

I have old books here with crowds and gate receipts going back to some of the first tours of those states. Heck even South Australia was an annual stop off and used to average around 10k in some old stadium over there. Not bad considering they had no real contact with the rl heartlands like today and they had no TV when it all started. So there must have been interest and there is still interest. The NRL have yet to tap into it properly.

the ratings for NRL from WA and SA are horrendous. Good luck expanding there

Perth would have no problem having an NRL team there one day.
Test matches have sold out in Perth as well as good crowds whenever Souths play there.

They get better Rugby League crowds in Perth most of the time than the Giants get in Western Sydney.

NlolRL wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 8:19 am

NRL&NFLweLaughATafl wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 7:23 am

NlolRL wrote: Sat May 27, 2017 10:46 am

the ratings for NRL from WA and SA are horrendous. Good luck expanding there

Perth would have no problem having an NRL team there one day.
Test matches have sold out in Perth as well as good crowds whenever Souths play there.

They get better Rugby League crowds in Perth most of the time than the Giants get in Western Sydney.

youd be pretty stupid to compare one-off games to regular season games. Oh yeah, you are stupid

NlolRL wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 8:19 am

NRL&NFLweLaughATafl wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 7:23 am

NlolRL wrote: Sat May 27, 2017 10:46 am

the ratings for NRL from WA and SA are horrendous. Good luck expanding there

Perth would have no problem having an NRL team there one day.
Test matches have sold out in Perth as well as good crowds whenever Souths play there.

They get better Rugby League crowds in Perth most of the time than the Giants get in Western Sydney.

youd be pretty stupid to compare one-off games to regular season games. Oh yeah, you are stupid

Fred wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 10:40 am

Has anyone addressed this from the article


“An NRL Growth Fund will have made $200m available for investment in key projects.” Fail. Chief executive Todd Greenberg has said he will look to lend $25 million this year for cash flow.

“Club memberships will reach 400,000.” Fail. There is slightly more than 300,000.

“Average attendance at NRL games will increase to 20,000.” Fail. Crowds averaged 16,415 in 2012 and are 15,557 this year. No year in between reached a 16,000 average.

“700,000 people will play in competition.” Fail. The number playing the game is about 170,000. Including women.

“Central revenue will have doubled to more than $300m.” Fail.


Just seems this was washed over but I thought it formed the crux of the article ?

Fred wrote: Sat May 27, 2017 10:18 am

You can count nz ratings just don't use them to argue rl is more popular in Australia. Makes perfect sense.

This whole thing about AFL or Aussie rules being Victorian fails to take into account that it is the dominant code in tassie, south Australia, Western Australia, and Northern Territory. That it has a strong presence in other areas such as Riverina, broken hill region, Gold Coast and in Brisbane... with strong grassroots across the nation ... something the likes of which rl would die for.

As for international presence, it seems to me that most posts on here lately about this are from rl people. Australian Rulrs is australuas game and that's fine by me and it seems others here. Sure, they may look to play games overseas and have or had an eye to nz but that is neither here nor there... if they don't get on board then who cares. AFL is by far the biggest sporting organisation. In this country. They are in that position. Because they haven't sat on their hands the last 30 years. Look at where the AFL and Aussie rules is now compared to rl. Rugby league hardly has any players from non traditional states and thus reflects how little it has grown. Look at AFL. How many players are there from qld and nsw who have come through the local system?