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Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:23 pm
by Cracker
214Four wrote:
tackleing? yeh it can be masculine but seriously AFL guys dont tackle hard enough and if they do the ref penalises them.
Not if the tackle is legal they won't.
214Four wrote:
Here is another point... yes there is tackleing in AFL but it is so much less impact than a rugby league tackle on average that if an AFL player went into rugby league he would struggle to stay uninjured as his body would not be use to the constant and hard impact, also he would need alot of bulking up with muscle growth to help the body against the hard physical game of rugby league, yes AFL is masculine when compareing to soccer or ballroom dancing, but compared to rugby league it makes AFL look like ballroom dancing.
I take it from that, that you have never been tackled in an Aussie Rules match. I have - numerous times. I have also been tackled on the rugby league field. The two are comparible, although it depends on the size of person tackling you. In that regard rugby league does have an advantage. However the size of the man does not dictate masculinity.

One other additional thing to consider. The breadth of the body that can be tackled is different between the two sports. Tripping is legal in league. The high zone in league only goes down to the neck (in Aussie Rules it includes the shoulders). You can tackle from behind in league and grind your opponent into the ground. But in Aussie Rules it is legal to tackle in any other way when the tackled player has the ball. It's tough and uncomprimising. It's why I like both sports.

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:50 pm
by 214Four
Cracker wrote:
214Four wrote:
tackleing? yeh it can be masculine but seriously AFL guys dont tackle hard enough and if they do the ref penalises them.
Not if the tackle is legal they won't.
214Four wrote:
Here is another point... yes there is tackleing in AFL but it is so much less impact than a rugby league tackle on average that if an AFL player went into rugby league he would struggle to stay uninjured as his body would not be use to the constant and hard impact, also he would need alot of bulking up with muscle growth to help the body against the hard physical game of rugby league, yes AFL is masculine when compareing to soccer or ballroom dancing, but compared to rugby league it makes AFL look like ballroom dancing.
I take it from that, that you have never been tackled in an Aussie Rules match. I have - numerous times. I have also been tackled on the rugby league field. The two are comparible, although it depends on the size of person tackling you. In that regard rugby league does have an advantage. However the size of the man does not dictate masculinity.

One other additional thing to consider. The breadth of the body that can be tackled is different between the two sports. Tripping is legal in league. The high zone in league only goes down to the neck (in Aussie Rules it includes the shoulders). You can tackle from behind in league and grind your opponent into the ground. But in Aussie Rules it is legal to tackle in any other way when the tackled player has the ball. It's tough and uncomprimising. It's why I like both sports.
ok this is all good there is masculinity (for a boy lol j/k but seriously), but at the end of the day the AFL could comprise of commandos and special forces soldiers battleing each other to the death if they are doing this and wearing a singlet (with something odd on the front like an anchor) and shorts that are too small for your 10 year old niece than any masculinity points made are instantly dashed! zoosh gone!!

you have to admit the AFL uniform is Queer as folk, its hard to take a game serious and see it as 'tough' when they look like that

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:18 pm
by King-Eliagh
Tripping is legal in RL?

Ahh you're the only one trippin here cwacker. I dont think you enjoy and watch RL at all with a comment like that.

And another thing... tell me...did you vote "no" for xman to continue as mod? :lol: I wouldnt be surprised if lil cwacker has been conspiring against xman to get the job :lol:

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 9:07 pm
by AFLcrap1
Cracker wrote:
214Four wrote:
tackleing? yeh it can be masculine but seriously AFL guys dont tackle hard enough and if they do the ref penalises them.
Not if the tackle is legal they won't.
214Four wrote:
Here is another point... yes there is tackleing in AFL but it is so much less impact than a rugby league tackle on average that if an AFL player went into rugby league he would struggle to stay uninjured as his body would not be use to the constant and hard impact, also he would need alot of bulking up with muscle growth to help the body against the hard physical game of rugby league, yes AFL is masculine when compareing to soccer or ballroom dancing, but compared to rugby league it makes AFL look like ballroom dancing.
I take it from that, that you have never been tackled in an Aussie Rules match. I have - numerous times. I have also been tackled on the rugby league field. The two are comparible, although it depends on the size of person tackling you. In that regard rugby league does have an advantage. However the size of the man does not dictate masculinity.

One other additional thing to consider. The breadth of the body that can be tackled is different between the two sports. Tripping is legal in league. The high zone in league only goes down to the neck (in Aussie Rules it includes the shoulders). You can tackle from behind in league and grind your opponent into the ground. But in Aussie Rules it is legal to tackle in any other way when the tackled player has the ball. It's tough and uncomprimising. It's why I like both sports.
You are a derpball fan pretending to like RL.
The bolded bit shows you have NO FUCKING IDEA.
YOu are simply too stupid for words.

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:50 am
by Cracker
You are referring to intentional tripping, not accidental tripping, just to clarify what I was talking about. Please point out in the rugby league rule book where accidental tripping is penalised.

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 10:54 am
by AFLcrap1
Cracker wrote:
You are referring to intentional tripping, not accidental tripping, just to clarify what I was talking about. Please point out in the rugby league rule book where accidental tripping is penalised.
Backpedal faster :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 4:43 pm
by Cracker
A clarification is not a backpedal.

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:41 am
by King-Eliagh
Can u refer to where accidental tripping is illegal in the AFL rule book?

Back peddling has been confirmed. :lol:

Cracker STOP hitting yourself with that brick. It's really disturbing how you punish urself in front of us so stupidly!

:lol:

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 12:26 pm
by Cracker
Any form of tripping - accidental or intentional - is illegal in Aussie Rules. Intentional is reportable as I know as a team mate of mine was once reported for it and was suspended for three weeks. I gave away a free kick for a trip once when my tackle slipped below the knee, and I was further penalised 50 metres for arguing for holding the ball.

As far as the rule book is concerned, look under Rule 15.4.5 (h) where it says;
"A Player makes Prohibited Contact with an opposition Player if the Player:
trips or attempts to trip an opposition Player, whether by the use of hand, arm, foot or leg"
http://www.aflrules.com.au/AFL-game-rul ... ree-kicks/

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 12:28 pm
by AFLcrap1
Cracker wrote:
Any form of tripping - accidental or intentional - is illegal in Aussie Rules. Intentional is reportable as I know as a team mate of mine was once reported for it and was suspended for three weeks. I gave away a free kick for a trip once when my tackle slipped below the knee, and I was further penalised 50 metres for arguing for holding the ball.

As far as the rule book is concerned, look under Rule 15.4.5 (h) where it says;
"A Player makes Prohibited Contact with an opposition Player if the Player:
trips or attempts to trip an opposition Player, whether by the use of hand, arm, foot or leg"
http://www.aflrules.com.au/AFL-game-rul ... ree-kicks/
Quick get Spambot in here to help.

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 12:41 pm
by Cracker
You really should get that thorn taken out of your paw, AFLcrap1.

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 6:26 pm
by King-Eliagh
Trips or attempts to trip doesn't say accidental I'm afraid dear cracker. Stop deflecting champ, the rule would be very similarly written for rl, you just didn't know the rules ;)

Re: Has masculinity been all but stamped out in the AFL?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 7:19 pm
by Cracker
No, you do not know the rules, King Eliagh. You said that tripping wasn't illegal in Aussie Rules and I showed that this was not the case. No form of tripping is allowed. Accidental tripping is allowed in rugby league. The sort of tackle I was penalised for would be allowed for instance.