Talking Footy

Awaiting your response here Xman. We have cwacker stating that I'm referring to all members of any community when I have clearly not.

Comon Xman, you called for this rule, please enforce it.

King-Eliagh wrote:

Awaiting your response here Xman. We have cwacker stating that I'm referring to all members of any community when I have clearly not.

Comon Xman, you called for this rule, please enforce it.

Fair call. Cracker, prove KE said or meant "ALL of you" or the comment will need to retracted

I can state that King Eliagh has stated that he wishes to provide pathways for all Aborigines in the communities to play in the AFL. If he didn't say "All" then he is shooting himself in the foot because he himself is putting limitations suddenly on his own claim. It is on this basis that I said what I said.

I think King Eliagh should stop leaving holes in his stories about what he thinks will happen when it would be apparent at this point that I have more of an idea than he does.

Cracker wrote:

I can state that King Eliagh has stated that he wishes to provide pathways for all Aborigines in the communities to play in the AFL. If he didn't say "All" then he is shooting himself in the foot because he himself is putting limitations suddenly on his own claim. It is on this basis that I said what I said.

I think King Eliagh should stop leaving holes in his stories about what he thinks will happen when it would be apparent at this point that I have more of an idea than he does.

Providing pathways for all, and wanting all to play are two different things

Yes they certainly damn well are very different things, thanks Xman. Additionally I'd add that pathways to the AFL, in all communities where they are present, would generally recruit less than 1% of members of whichever community they are recruiting from. Therefore they really have no potential to "break up communities" as cracker has also wrongly implied is my objective.

So on yer bike and retract your dumb statement cwacker. That's the second time I've outed you on false claims in as many weeks. Really, its becoming glaringly obvious who the more factual and intelligent poster is between the pair of us cwacker. Not that this was hard to see before but now we even have our moderators taking action against you, and rightfully so.

Xman, do we have grounds for a banning if the docile cwacker continues in this vein of making defamatory, false and twisted statements to my name?

I'm finding it all rather disturbing and, quite frankly, a waste of my and your time here Xman...

King-Eliagh wrote:

Yes they certainly damn well are very different things, thanks Xman. Additionally I'd add that pathways to the AFL, in all communities where they are present, would generally recruit less than 1% of members of whichever community they are recruiting from. Therefore they really have no potential to "break up communities" as cracker has also wrongly implied is my objective.

So on yer bike and retract your dumb statement cwacker. That's the second time I've outed you on false claims in as many weeks. Really, its becoming glaringly obvious who the more factual and intelligent poster is between the pair of us cwacker. Not that this was hard to see before but now we even have our moderators taking action against you, and rightfully so.

Xman, do we have grounds for a banning if the docile cwacker continues in this vein of making defamatory, false and twisted statements to my name?

I'm finding it all rather disturbing and, quite frankly, a waste of my and your time here Xman...

Settle down

I can see the grubby character of cracker trying to weasel his way out of this. Just a heads up there Xman. Btw how long before you delete his post if he does nuttin?

Xman wrote:

Cracker wrote:

I can state that King Eliagh has stated that he wishes to provide pathways for all Aborigines in the communities to play in the AFL. If he didn't say "All" then he is shooting himself in the foot because he himself is putting limitations suddenly on his own claim. It is on this basis that I said what I said.

I think King Eliagh should stop leaving holes in his stories about what he thinks will happen when it would be apparent at this point that I have more of an idea than he does.

Providing pathways for all, and wanting all to play are two different things

I disagree. Providing pathways for all only has one intent - wanting all to play. There can be no other intent.

My post should stay, and King Eliagh will need to alter his attitude instead of behaving like a spoilt baby who just had his lollipop taken from him.

Cracker wrote:

Xman wrote:

Cracker wrote:

I can state that King Eliagh has stated that he wishes to provide pathways for all Aborigines in the communities to play in the AFL. If he didn't say "All" then he is shooting himself in the foot because he himself is putting limitations suddenly on his own claim. It is on this basis that I said what I said.

I think King Eliagh should stop leaving holes in his stories about what he thinks will happen when it would be apparent at this point that I have more of an idea than he does.

Providing pathways for all, and wanting all to play are two different things

I disagree. Providing pathways for all only has one intent - wanting all to play. There can be no other intent.

My post should stay, and King Eliagh will need to alter his attitude instead of behaving like a spoilt baby who just had his lollipop taken from him.

No, it means everyone has an opportunity if they want. Its absurd to think providing everyone with a chance means you want all to take it up. The logistics don't add up for a start.

The opportunity exists now just for clarity. Every AFL club would like all the talent to play. But they know (unlike King Eliagh) that this is impossible without having an adverse effect on the communities. That is, if I understand what you are suggesting Xman, the logistics don't add up. But according to King Eliagh (in effect) they do and should be exploited to the maximum. I oppose this, and so would the communities if they knew about this proposal of King Eliagh's.

Cracker wrote:

The opportunity exists now just for clarity. Every AFL club would like all the talent to play. But they know (unlike King Eliagh) that this is impossible without having an adverse effect on the communities. That is, if I understand what you are suggesting Xman, the logistics don't add up. But according to King Eliagh (in effect) they do and should be exploited to the maximum. I oppose this, and so would the communities if they knew about this proposal of King Eliagh's.

All KE is saying, from what I can tell, is that everyone deserves an equal opportunity, which is fair enough. Doesn't mean you want everyone to take it at once.

Everyone has an equal opportunity already, Xman. In effect King Eliagh wants to throw open the doors for an open slather as such. I'm sorry, but that is the same as expected all of them to play AFL.

I have been reading this debate KE how do you say Koories arnt receiving opportunities at present?? There are boys getting drafted each year from these communities what is it that the AFL should be doing - at present I am aware of in every state they have u15 development squads for Koories (I know because I had a young boy in a teams I coached and he was only just too young but is in the squad now). They offer scholarships to Melb private schools to not only develop but give them greater opportunities (Cyril Rioli was one such), they do many programs what are you suggesting they should do more than they currently do????

Yes he does want them to do more, Swans4ever. Much more. He wants places like Santa Theresa and Hermannsburg (at least) to become hotbed recruitment grounds. They would not want it.

Cracker wrote:

Xman wrote:

Cracker wrote:

I can state that King Eliagh has stated that he wishes to provide pathways for all Aborigines in the communities to play in the AFL. If he didn't say "All" then he is shooting himself in the foot because he himself is putting limitations suddenly on his own claim. It is on this basis that I said what I said.

I think King Eliagh should stop leaving holes in his stories about what he thinks will happen when it would be apparent at this point that I have more of an idea than he does.

Providing pathways for all, and wanting all to play are two different things

I disagree. Providing pathways for all only has one intent - wanting all to play. There can be no other intent.

My post should stay, and King Eliagh will need to alter his attitude instead of behaving like a spoilt baby who just had his lollipop taken from him.

First things first, have a geez at this shite!!! Perhaps the dumbest post cwacker has come up with

Seriously Cwacker, get ur freakin act together and post some sense! You're wasting our time.

Secondly: Xman it is time to delete the offending post. Cwacker is trying to weasel his way out of this and, while awfully amusing, we must be consistent and honour the new ruling which the members voted in. Off with his post Xman!