King-Eliagh wrote:Xman wrote:King-Eliagh wrote:You douchebags. The figures clearly show us that if you go to a game in the AFL comp then you are likely to be in and amongst a smaller crowd of fans than years gone by. And I'll add to that, you're also likely to see a less competitive game.
The fact the AFL has two more teams and therefore has higher TOTAL crowds means diarrhea. Seriously it sounds like you AFL clowns would argue for 50 teams in the comp, even if this meant only 5 thousand avg at each game, as long as the total combined crowd meant there were more people going to AFL.

Some perspective you twats. The fact the AFL average crowds are sliding, along with the competitiveness of games, is quite a serious issue. Very worrying, very worrying indeed.
Now to get back on topic. I wonder whether the swans, the premiers, crowd avgs might drop this season? Wouldnt that just be a scary thought and a real indicator of decline.
So if the NRL put a team in Adelaide, and it average 14k crowds, this would be a reduction in NRL crowd averages and therefore considered a failed expansion?
Or if the NRL placed another team in Melbourne and both teams averaged 11k, meaning 22k a fortnight were attending NRL, a 40% increase on the current total. This is a reduction in crowds?
Correct?
Please show me how the AFL crowds are sliding when the first 2 rounds this year are well up on last year, mor people are attending games in NSW and QLD, and the tally has exceeded 700k for 2 rounds for the first time ever...

You confused buffoon. Look at you dilly dallying around with numbers there, plucking them from your ass, sniffing them for potency and then placing the disgusting things on our forum, messing the whole place up with your filth.
You're nothing more than a child Xman. Now listen up.
Chances are if you go to an AFL match this season or last, there would be significantly less crowd members than in previous years. Chances are the competition of the match would also be lopsided. Fact is average crowds are down. Fact is last season the AFL had its most lopsided comp since the late 1800's!!! Or lets just say since the comp began.
Failed expansion? Yes Xman, that is looking quite correct. If melbourne and other teams continue their woeful form it's likely the AFL will cull a few teams...Then "total crowds" will go down by many thousands as there'll be less games. Would you then revert to average attendance as the sign for success Xman?

Again, complete and utter crap.
All Melbourne, Perth and Adelaide crowds are about the same. Some are higher because of good performance, some are lower due to poor performance. This is no different to any comp in the world.
Therefore if you go to a game in Melbourne Adelaide or Perth youre sitting in roughly the same size crowd as before. In fact as my stats show, over the last decade these crowds, when added together, have increased by up to 100k per round.
If you go to a swans game youre sitting in a smaller crowd because a) the capacity of their ground is smaller and they have limited general admission seating, b) they have obviously lost some fringe supporters to the giants, however their membership is at record levels. Thats unless you think all the giants members are new AFL supporters
If you go to a giants game in Sydney youre sitting in a crowd that is about equal to most sporting crowds in Sydney.
If you go to a lions game, yes theyve reduced, but so have all teams in Brisbane/GC. You know, economy. They have also been crap on field for many years now
If you go to a Suns game you're sitting in about the same size crowd as the Titans, and many more than the A league were.
If you sit in an AFL crowd in Tasmania, youre sitting in a crowd many times more than their local league.
So, in summary, the average over the league doesnt equate to all crowds being lower. It equates to more games, and the additional crowds being lower than the original 8 games! What a surprise given the original average was the 4th best in the world!