Debate For & Against Vaccinations - Fight Club Rules apply

[Striker]

Oh come on! You can't base that on one vaccination and EVERY doctor! You know as well as I do that NOT every doctor has been bribed! And the bribery is by a bunch of companies as a collective, not just a single company! So try again with your maths, and start with ALL vaccines! Even with the 30 odd that they stick in kids that $9 billion by itself!! For ONE COMPANY!!

TL, Dr Wakefield has a case. He'll appeal for certain. And look at those formulas! Each and every one of them have Hg in them! TOXIC! You ask me what I got in accounting? I ask you what you got for chemistry!! Assets are included in a company's balance sheets and can be turned into cash easily!

[Xman]

Oh come on! You can't base that on one vaccination and EVERY doctor! You know as well as I do that NOT every doctor has been bribed! And the bribery is by a bunch of companies as a collective, not just a single company! So try again with your maths, and start with ALL vaccines! Even with the 30 odd that they stick in kids that $9 billion by itself!! For ONE COMPANY!!

TL, Dr Wakefield has a case. He'll appeal for certain. And look at those formulas! Each and every one of them have Hg in them! TOXIC! You ask me what I got in accounting? I ask you what you got for chemistry!! Assets are included in a company's balance sheets and can be turned into cash easily!

Well Im glad I blew that little delusion out of the water for you

Striker, there is a huge amount of research and evidence on this topic, especially after Wakefields paper. The overwhelming majority of this research has found NO LINK to inflammatory bowel disease or autism. This is why the overwhelming majority of doctors continue to use the MMR vaccine.

[Striker]

Overwhelming amount of paid off research you mean! And paid off doctors continuing to use a vaccine that causes Autism!

What delusion? Are you saying that I said that every doctor is bribed? They've TRIED to bribe every doctor, but more than a few rejected the bribe KNOWING that the products were dangerous! Nice try, my deluded little boy!

[Xman]

Overwhelming amount of paid off research you mean! And paid off doctors continuing to use a vaccine that causes Autism!

What delusion? Are you saying that I said that every doctor is bribed? They've TRIED to bribe every doctor, but more than a few rejected the bribe KNOWING that the products were dangerous! Nice try, my deluded little boy!

weve already been through the paid off BS. The MMR vaccination only makes less than $300mil a year in the USA. How are they going to pay off all doctors and researchers with such a small amount of money?


Your comments are unbelievably uneducated and absolutely disgraceful really. You are essentially claiming doctors accept small amounts of money to ignore deliberate harm to children, and actually administer that harm themselves. Doctors already earn decent money without any need for bribes. What would the motive be?

[Striker]

It's ALL vaccines, dickhead! Not just the MMR! And all the other drugs as well!! Put that ALL together and there's PLENTY to bribe doctors to a very high amount! And it wouldn't be with just money either by the way!

Doctors earn decent money?? BULLSHIT! If they did why is it so hard to get them to move to where they are needed?

[Xman]

It's ALL vaccines, dickhead! Not just the MMR! And all the other drugs as well!! Put that ALL together and there's PLENTY to bribe doctors to a very high amount! And it wouldn't be with just money either by the way!

Doctors earn decent money?? BULLSHIT! If they did why is it so hard to get them to move to where they are needed?

So all vaccinations cause autism? youre as deluded as they come. Where is the evidence for this BS? And drugs? Do you even take paracetamol?

In Australia GPs earn 150-300k. Specialists earn between 200k to well over a mil. Decent money?

The reason its hard to get them to work in needed areas like the country is because they are a highly skilled job under great demand. Therefore they have choice, and most chose to work in the cities.

[TLPG]

TL, Dr Wakefield has a case. He'll appeal for certain. And look at those formulas! Each and every one of them have Hg in them! TOXIC! You ask me what I got in accounting? I ask you what you got for chemistry!! Assets are included in a company's balance sheets and can be turned into cash easily!

Wakefield hasn't appealled and he's out of time. So it's over.

You don't understand chemistry. By that you're saying that water is explosive in the presence of oxygen, just because there's hydrogen in it! And you don't understand accounting. Bribes of any sort require liquidity. Assets are not liquid.

Xman I think we need to address why doctors are choosing the cities, because demand in the regional areas is actually bigger than it is in the cities. It's huge in both areas of course, but the regionals are in greater need.

[Xman]

TL, Dr Wakefield has a case. He'll appeal for certain. And look at those formulas! Each and every one of them have Hg in them! TOXIC! You ask me what I got in accounting? I ask you what you got for chemistry!! Assets are included in a company's balance sheets and can be turned into cash easily!

Wakefield hasn't appealled and he's out of time. So it's over.

You don't understand chemistry. By that you're saying that water is explosive in the presence of oxygen, just because there's hydrogen in it! And you don't understand accounting. Bribes of any sort require liquidity. Assets are not liquid.

Xman I think we need to address why doctors are choosing the cities, because demand in the regional areas is actually bigger than it is in the cities. It's huge in both areas of course, but the regionals are in greater need.

Agree, although I think it may be resolved sooner than later. Universities are now training more graduates than are required so many medical professions are beginning to see an oversupply for once. This should resolve some of the under supply in rural areas.

[TLPG]

I hope so. What worries me is all these health care cuts in Victoria and I think also Queensland. And it'll be cut federally after September 14 if Abbott gets in.

[King-Eliagh]

Well what a hefty lil debate we have going here, although I must admit it became fairly lamo and boring towards the end.

But before that it had a plenty. I'm undecided. The pharmaceutical industry is disgustingly flooded with money and where there's money like that, there's lies and corruption. Look at the melbourne demons for example, theyre a wealthy club who tanked to high hell so they could get more. Lies and corruption i say. Though on the flip side Xman and co do have some clear winning points. I mean vaccination has saved millions... Though I must admit, Xman's blind acceptance of anything that enters an academic journal or the daily telegraph for that matter is perhaps the most concerning finding of this thread. Xman, seriously, you have the critical mind of a confused buffoon. You just accept and accept that western science is the be all and end all. Well, i'm sorry my confused buffoon, but it aint. Sure it's got some good points but with the good comes a hell of a lotta bad, which most, including yourself, dont even bat an eyelid at.

Your's Sincerely
KE

Oh and how could I forget, we also had the return of one of our most feisty and dictatorial members! Welcome back LG! you still owe Brock Mclean an apology champ

[Xman]

Well what a hefty lil debate we have going here, although I must admit it became fairly lamo and boring towards the end.

But before that it had a plenty. I'm undecided. The pharmaceutical industry is disgustingly flooded with money and where there's money like that, there's lies and corruption. Look at the melbourne demons for example, theyre a wealthy club who tanked to high hell so they could get more. Lies and corruption i say. Though on the flip side Xman and co do have some clear winning points. I mean vaccination has saved millions... Though I must admit, Xman's blind acceptance of anything that enters an academic journal or the daily telegraph for that matter is perhaps the most concerning finding of this thread. Xman, seriously, you have the critical mind of a confused buffoon. You just accept and accept that western science is the be all and end all. Well, i'm sorry my confused buffoon, but it aint. Sure it's got some good points but with the good comes a hell of a lotta bad, which most, including yourself, dont even bat an eyelid at.

Your's Sincerely
KE

Oh and how could I forget, we also had the return of one of our most feisty and dictatorial members! Welcome back LG! you still owe Brock Mclean an apology champ

on the contrary KE, I don't accept anything published in a scientific journal, only research that is validated by countless other independant studies. Reasonable wouldnt you agree? Or are you agreeing with Striker's industry wide corruption theory? remember this is a guy who confessed he only trusts a doctor to manage his fracture or muscle tear. God help him when he, like the vast majority of people, succumb to either heart disease or cancer. Looks like he'll be on his own. Heaven forbid he should accept treatment involving chemotherapy or cardiovascular medical therapy. That's the evil drug companies again!

[King-Eliagh]

Well going on strikers beliefs I'd hope he wouldnt accept that treatment. Perhaps striker is a man who is not as afraid of death as the western world has made many of us to be...? Apart from that fair call with the independent studies, however you must also accept that there are other paradigms of thought which could validly contradict a research which you see as validated by countless other independent studies...

[Xman]

Well going on strikers beliefs I'd hope he wouldnt accept that treatment. Perhaps striker is a man who is not as afraid of death as the western world has made many of us to be...? Apart from that fair call with the independent studies, however you must also accept that there are other paradigms of thought which could validly contradict a research which you see as validated by countless other independent studies...

I don't really care what paradigm of treatment is proposed. I'm all for alternative medical practices as long as these concepts have been validated through a number of Independant and well designed studies.

[Striker]

You're lying, X, otherwise you'd know how dangerous vaccines are! Specialists are irrelevant and you'd better provide proof of that salary figure because I'm calling you on that! Doctors would be lucky to break 100K working seven days a week!

Cancer treatment is proven through khemo. I have no issues with surgery to repair organs that are not functioning as they should be.

TL, Wakefield CAN appeal! He probably already has and has stayed it while collecting more evidence! You can do that on the quiet you know! And you want to talk about chemistry. Hydrogen is a gas, dickhead! Mercury is a liquid! You work it out for yourself!

[Xman]

You're lying, X, otherwise you'd know how dangerous vaccines are! Specialists are irrelevant and you'd better provide proof of that salary figure because I'm calling you on that! Doctors would be lucky to break 100K working seven days a week!

Cancer treatment is proven through khemo. I have no issues with surgery to repair organs that are not functioning as they should be.

TL, Wakefield CAN appeal! He probably already has and has stayed it while collecting more evidence! You can do that on the quiet you know! And you want to talk about chemistry. Hydrogen is a gas, dickhead! Mercury is a liquid! You work it out for yourself!

http://www.imrmedical.com/australiasalaries.htm

General Practitioner 150,000 - 350,000
Consultant (Specialist) 175,000 - 350,000

and that specialist salary is for public health and part-time only. Most earn the same or more for part-time work in their own private rooms.

The average annual income for a full-time Australian GP is up to $200,000 or more.
http://www.gpaustralia.org.au/content/what-can-you-earn

chemo is sold by the big bad corrupt drug companies! theyre all evil!