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Re: and the VFL hogwash continues
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:01 pm
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:Marcus has had a little willy whacking fit today about the VFL's supposed number of " leagues " throughout NSW
of which there are 23 .. according him
a league is a competition involving clubs
a club is a collection of teams
I understand VFL age comps start at Under 10's ...
so lets say there are 7 junior age groups ( 10's to 16's) & 3 senior age groups ( 18's , res & 1st ) for all 23 Leagues in NSW
thats 230 comps throughout NSW
& lets say theres 10 teams in every comp ... meaning theres 2300 teams in NSW
theres 28,500 regsitered club players in NSW in 2012 according to their own website
http://aflnswact.com.au/index.php?id=5& ... 0ae8aeeff2
meaning theres
12 players a team on average
how can there be 23 functioning leagues
& only 28K players in them
more VFL BS at work here folks
its hilarious

The answer is in the link you posted dopey! 60k school participants

Re: and the VFL hogwash continues
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:09 pm
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:Marcus has had a little willy whacking fit today about the VFL's supposed number of " leagues " throughout NSW
of which there are 23 .. according him
a league is a competition involving clubs
a club is a collection of teams
I understand VFL age comps start at Under 10's ...
so lets say there are 7 junior age groups ( 10's to 16's) & 3 senior age groups ( 18's , res & 1st ) for all 23 Leagues in NSW
thats 230 comps throughout NSW
& lets say theres 10 teams in every comp ... meaning theres 2300 teams in NSW
theres 28,500 regsitered club players in NSW in 2012 according to their own website
http://aflnswact.com.au/index.php?id=5& ... 0ae8aeeff2
meaning theres
12 players a team on average
how can there be 23 functioning leagues
& only 28K players in them
more VFL BS at work here folks
its hilarious

So youre assuming every club in every league has 10 age groups?
http://www.aflnswact.com.au/index.php?id=25
Count them, 22 affiliated leagues

Re: Junior AFL/RL in VIC and NSW
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:18 pm
by Xman
While we're on this topic, got any link for your claim of 2600 registered RL players in Victoria Dave?

Re: Junior AFL/RL in VIC and NSW
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:08 pm
by piesman2011
I think I read some where there wer a total of about 2K in Vic. But Dave is trying to compare this to the junior only numbers in Sydney only.

Re: Junior AFL/RL in VIC and NSW
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:01 pm
by Xman
Re: and the VFL hogwash continues
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:25 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:Marcus has had a little willy whacking fit today about the VFL's supposed number of " leagues " throughout NSW
of which there are 23 .. according him
a league is a competition involving clubs
a club is a collection of teams
I understand VFL age comps start at Under 10's ...
so lets say there are 7 junior age groups ( 10's to 16's) & 3 senior age groups ( 18's , res & 1st ) for all 23 Leagues in NSW
thats 230 comps throughout NSW
& lets say theres 10 teams in every comp ... meaning theres 2300 teams in NSW
theres 28,500 regsitered club players in NSW in 2012 according to their own website
http://aflnswact.com.au/index.php?id=5& ... 0ae8aeeff2
meaning theres
12 players a team on average
how can there be 23 functioning leagues
& only 28K players in them
more VFL BS at work here folks
its hilarious

So youre assuming every club in every league has 10 age groups?
http://www.aflnswact.com.au/index.php?id=25
Count them, 22 affiliated leagues

oh .. we've lost one folks , its now 22 , not 23 ... did one fold in the last few hours marcus ?
ten sides a comp is about the average
some bigger .. some smaller ....
but as I've pointed out ... either its a lot less then this
or sides are running around in singlets & tight shorts ... well under manned
seems the number of .... Leagues .. is no indicator of anything of note eh ?

Re: Junior AFL/RL in VIC and NSW
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:39 am
by Raiderdave
piesman2011 wrote:I think I read some where there wer a total of about 2K in Vic. But Dave is trying to compare this to the junior only numbers in Sydney only.

juniors only , so what D head .... the total number wouldn't be 10,000 all up ( junior /senior) in Sydney anyway. ( 28500 in all of NSW) , hardly anything to whack ones willy about considering the money spent in attracting new players & the amount of time the sport has been played in NSW/ Sydney
I'd say there were already 20,000 vicky kicky players in NSW when the Swines came to Sydney in 1982
meaning growth results have been pathetic at best
RL has only really been played with any real purpose in Melb since the 1980's
& when the Storm started up in 1998 there were only a few hundred players
there are now 2,600 registered club RL players in Victoria ( all in Melb ) & thats with 1/100th of the money spent
whats gunna happen when the commission actually throws some money at participation in the non heartland states
when they take oztag ( a great little non contact version of RL for boys & girls ) to schools in Vic SA & WA

.. be afraid
be very afraid

Re: Junior AFL/RL in VIC and NSW
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:54 am
by Raiderdave
you need 1000 to make the ABS participation list
thered be about 30 senior RL teams in Melb ... so only about 600 adult players
but as we've established .. theres only about 2500 senior vicky kicky players in Sydney as well
& half of them were there prior to 1982
meaning .... not many more adults have taken up fumbling bumbling & missing in Sydney in 30 years
then the same for RL in Melbourne in less then half that time , & we also haven't spent any money on trying to attract them .. while the VFL have spent tens of millions.. hundreds of millions in fact
wow
how embarrasing for the victorian game

Re: and the VFL hogwash continues
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:16 am
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:Marcus has had a little willy whacking fit today about the VFL's supposed number of " leagues " throughout NSW
of which there are 23 .. according him
a league is a competition involving clubs
a club is a collection of teams
I understand VFL age comps start at Under 10's ...
so lets say there are 7 junior age groups ( 10's to 16's) & 3 senior age groups ( 18's , res & 1st ) for all 23 Leagues in NSW
thats 230 comps throughout NSW
& lets say theres 10 teams in every comp ... meaning theres 2300 teams in NSW
theres 28,500 regsitered club players in NSW in 2012 according to their own website
http://aflnswact.com.au/index.php?id=5& ... 0ae8aeeff2
meaning theres
12 players a team on average
how can there be 23 functioning leagues
& only 28K players in them
more VFL BS at work here folks
its hilarious

So youre assuming every club in every league has 10 age groups?
http://www.aflnswact.com.au/index.php?id=25
Count them, 22 affiliated leagues

oh .. we've lost one folks , its now 22 , not 23 ... did one fold in the last few hours marcus ?
ten sides a comp is about the average
some bigger .. some smaller ....
but as I've pointed out ... either its a lot less then this
or sides are running around in singlets & tight shorts ... well under manned
seems the number of .... Leagues .. is no indicator of anything of note eh ?

i didn't notice one line was the heading for the Sydney leagues so I accidentally included it. I'm happy to admit I was wrong.
22v1

Re: Junior AFL/RL in VIC and NSW
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:17 am
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:piesman2011 wrote:I think I read some where there wer a total of about 2K in Vic. But Dave is trying to compare this to the junior only numbers in Sydney only.

juniors only , so what D head .... the total number wouldn't be 10,000 all up ( junior /senior) in Sydney anyway. ( 28500 in all of NSW) , hardly anything to whack ones willy about considering the money spent in attracting new players & the amount of time the sport has been played in NSW/ Sydney
I'd say there were already 20,000 vicky kicky players in NSW when the Swines came to Sydney in 1982
meaning growth results have been pathetic at best
RL has only really been played with any real purpose in Melb since the 1980's
& when the Storm started up in 1998 there were only a few hundred players
there are now 2,600 registered club RL players in Victoria ( all in Melb ) & thats with 1/100th of the money spent
whats gunna happen when the commission actually throws some money at participation in the non heartland states
when they take oztag ( a great little non contact version of RL for boys & girls ) to schools in Vic SA & WA

.. be afraid
be very afraid

Again, Show me your source for 2600 registered players......
Re: Junior AFL/RL in VIC and NSW
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:19 am
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:
you need 1000 to make the ABS participation list
thered be about 30 senior RL teams in Melb ... so only about 600 adult players
but as we've established .. theres only about 2500 senior vicky kicky players in Sydney as well
& half of them were there prior to 1982
meaning .... not many more adults have taken up fumbling bumbling & missing in Sydney in 30 years
then the same for RL in Melbourne in less then half that time , & we also haven't spent any money on trying to attract them .. while the VFL have spent tens of millions.. hundreds of millions in fact
wow
how embarrasing for the victorian game

22v1
10 RL clubs in Victoria v 66 AFL clubs in Sydney/Newcastle/CC alone!

Re: Junior AFL/RL in VIC and NSW
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:58 am
by piesman2011
Raiderdave wrote:piesman2011 wrote:I think I read some where there wer a total of about 2K in Vic. But Dave is trying to compare this to the junior only numbers in Sydney only.

juniors only , so what D head .... the total number wouldn't be 10,000 all up ( junior /senior) in Sydney anyway. ( 28500 in all of NSW) , hardly anything to whack ones willy about considering the money spent in attracting new players & the amount of time the sport has been played in NSW/ Sydney
I'd say there were already 20,000 vicky kicky players in NSW when the Swines came to Sydney in 1982
meaning growth results have been pathetic at best
RL has only really been played with any real purpose in Melb since the 1980's
& when the Storm started up in 1998 there were only a few hundred players
there are now 2,600 registered club RL players in Victoria ( all in Melb ) & thats with 1/100th of the money spent
whats gunna happen when the commission actually throws some money at participation in the non heartland states
when they take oztag ( a great little non contact version of RL for boys & girls ) to schools in Vic SA & WA

.. be afraid
be very afraid

Do you have a link for your 2600 Dave. Its not that I dont trust you.........oh wait I take that back.
Re: Junior AFL/RL in VIC and NSW
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:01 pm
by piesman2011
So wait 10 RL clubs have 260 players each on average. Thats roughly 18-20 sides per club. I call BS.
Re: Junior AFL/RL in VIC and NSW
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:36 pm
by Stewie
Re: Junior AFL/RL in VIC and NSW
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:03 pm
by Raiderdave
piesman2011 wrote:So wait 10 RL clubs have 260 players each on average. Thats roughly 18-20 sides per club. I call BS.
who cares what you call d head
