Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:piesman2011 wrote:Team performance since they have been penalised:
NRL (where cheaters prosper)
Storm: 1 premiership 2012 (2 years after breach penalties) and 1 minor premiership 2011 (year after)
Bulldogs: 1 premiership (2 years after penalties)
Warriors: Runners up 2011 (5 years after penalties)
AFL:
Carlton: best 5th spot about 9 years after sanctions. 2 Woodenspoons (after 0 in 140 years)
Now tell me which comp is better at punishing cheating teams.
Absolutely correct!
The harsher penalty is the one with lasting ramifications. A slap on the wrist is a small fine and maybe a game or two lost. How does that punish the team for future seasons?
The NRL are so soft on salary cap cheating its not even worth the punishment.
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a game or two
the Bulldogs & Storm were removed for entire seasons , the Storm stripped of premierships ....
as well as fined millions
the buzzards have no penalty for 2013.... & were flogged with a wet lettuce leaf for 2014
VFL
an utter disgrace
Adelaide Crows aren't the only club to find themselves in trouble with the AFL's salary cap investigators over time. The list may be longer than you think.
The Crows next week expect to be charged over the Kurt Tippett scandal.
If this occurs, they will become the latest club to be punished for misconduct relating to player payments.
Carlton is well known to have received the heaviest penalty in 2002, which the club says hurt it for a decade.
But many others have felt the wrath of the AFL over time, as this list suggests.
1987, Sydney were fined the maximum of $60,000 and forfeited their first round pick in the National Draft after a VFL investigation found that they had exceeded the salary cap by $1.15 million during the season.
1992, Sydney were fined $50,000 after it was found that they had failed to disclose payments made to former player Greg Williams during the 1990 season; Williams was suspended for six matches and fined the maximum of $25,000 for accepting the payments.
1994, Carlton were fined $50,000 after it was found that they had exceeded the salary cap by $85,000 during the 1993 season.
1995, Sydney were fined $20,000 after key documents relating to player financial details and star full-forward Tony Lockett's contract details were lost in the post by club officials, forcing the club, who had won the last three wooden spoons, to scratch from the 1995 pre-season draft and play the season two players short. The club officials responsible were fired by the Swans one week later.
1996, Essendon were fined a record $638,250 ($250,000 in back tax and penalties, $112,000 for draft tampering and $276,250 for breaching the salary cap regulations), forfeited their first, second and third round picks in the National Draft and were excluded from the 1997 rookie and pre-season drafts after a joint Australian Tax Office and AFL investigation found that they had committed serious and systematic breaches of the salary cap regulations totalling $514,500 between 1991 and 1996.
1997 Geelong were fined $77,000 in 1998 and excluded from the 1999 pre-season draft after it was found that they had exceeded the salary cap by $154,000 during the 1997 season.
1998, the West Coast Eagles were fined $100,000 and forfeited their third round pick in the National Draft after it was found that they had exceeded the salary cap by a total of $165,000 during the 1997 and 1998 seasons.
1999, Melbourne were fined $600,000 and forfeited their first, second and third round picks in the National Draft for two years after it was found that they had committed serious and systematic breaches of the salary cap regulations totalling $810,000 between 1995 and 1998.
2001, Carlton were fined $125,150, forfeited their second and third round picks in the 2001 National Draft and were excluded from the 2002 pre-season draft after it was found that they had failed to disclose payments totaling $239,900 to captain Craig Bradley and incorrectly lodged an additional services agreement document during the 1998 and 1999 seasons.
2002, Carlton were fined a record $987,500 and forfeited their priority picks in the National Draft, their first and second round picks in the National Draft for two years and were excluded from the 2003 pre-season draft after an AFL investigation found that they had committed serious and systematic breaches of the salary cap regulations totaling $1.37 million between 1998 and 2001.
2003, Brisbane were fined $260,000 for late lodgement of documents relating to the contract and financial details of 26 players.
Read more:
http://www.foxsports.com.au/AFL/AFL-pre ... z2EADTShez
Now add Adelaide
2011 breaches and
2012 Carlton with Judd and the Visy deal and it is clearly a competition without credibility...
Really puts the NRL salary cap breaches in perspective when lined up next to the AFL..........
I found the comments to this article quite enlightening......
Lulz McGullz of Chip City says… November 13, 2012 at 2:39 PM
Look at all the times Sydney stuffed up around the salary cap. Now the AFL just allows them to rort it legally by 10%. Must be nice to have the AFL look after you so much. All this waffle about the 'Bloods culture' more like 'bloody concessions'.
johnny of melbourne says… November 13, 2012 at 2:54 PM
Salary cap cheating has been rife in the AFL since 1987, looks like the sanctions handed out to date have not been a strong enough deterrent, need to throw the book and kitchen since at these clubs. Remember these are just the clubs that have been caught, these are plenty that have got away with cheating the salary cap. (btw i support Carlton)
Lettuce leaf....
Lulz McGullz of Chip City says… November 14, 2012 at 9:54 AM
If a premiership team can afford to spend $800k to $1m on a single player, while getting an extra kicker for a bogus cost of living factor (seriously - if you guys get extra should Adelaide and Port get less cap space than every other team?) then it is a pathetic advantage all for the AFL to push the game in a rugby league territory. The AFL is only interested in pushing the game into league heartlands at the moment - at the expense of the game in traditional AFL states. Luckily for the AFL - the NRL has no clue about how to push into Aussie rules areas. The complete lack of interest in the Storm in Melbourne proves this. =D> =D> =D>
Yes that is correct peoples, the AFL knowingly Rig the competition to Favor expansion teams/Area's....
