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214Four wrote:
Xman wrote:
214Four wrote:
heres some Sydney NRL Leagues clubs turnover.
Canterbury Leagues club (Canterbury Bulldogs) turnover is $70 million a year, Parramatta Leagues Club (Parramatta Eels) turnover is $43 million a year and Panthers Group (Penrith Panthers) has a tunover of $152 million a year.

Heres a link with some of that info
http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/09/27/clu ... s-revenue/
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/portals ... report.pdf

Collingwoods "non-gaming" revenue for 2011 was over $55million. This included 22M from marketing and sponsorship, and 16M from memberships. Both those last figures are more than almost all nRL clubs total yearly revenue including income they draw from their leagues club.

http://www.brw.com.au/p/sections/featur ... mr1mCr2kOP
the Bulldogs got $4 million (about one-quarter of total revenue) from its co-branded leagues club last year.
So the Bulldogs earned 12M without gaming revenue, less than 1/4 of Collingwoods non-gaming revenue
I dont dissagree with you that collingwood is the biggest club in terms of turnover (without gameing revenue) currently, but i do think that the Parramatta Eels have huge potential to be the biggest earning club in regards to sponsership and marketing dollars when considering... Parramatta's located In the 3rd largest economy in OZ which has a population larger than Brisbane and Perth, and the Eels play Rugby League which dominates airtime in the countries only true global city.
Parramatta may be well located but Collingwoods support is nation-wide (more in AFL states yes). They draw big crowds in every state, not just Melbourne.

Add to that the fact Collingwood have 70k members bringing in probably more than parramatta yearly revenue alone.
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
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the Broncos turn over 30m dollars a year .. in their Football Dept alone
they do not include their gaming revenue

Collinsknob .... do

in fact no NRL club includes their leagues clubs gaming revenue
all VFL clubs include theirs

if NRL clubs did include all their revenue ( Panthers Leagues turns over 80m a year ) ..... they wouldn't just be on par with VFL clubs
they'd be well ahead

its just another smoke & mirrors .. all is not what it seems .. w@nk .... by the VFL :wink:
Link?

Yeah, thats why some NRL clubs cant even pay for a CEO, have no major sponsor and cant even pay staff superannuation. They also play and train in debilitated holes while the AFL teams upgrade their facilities regularly.

Oh Dave, you dreamer.... :lol:
:lol: :lol:
marcus .. spitting the dummy when ol RD is proven right ..... again

NRL clubs that can't even pay for a CEO ... :?
thats one club D head .... Cronulla

& again .... your brain dead notion that turnover equals wealth .. is exposed as the utter BS it is
the Cronulla Leagues club doesn't do that well ...
smaller membership base .. smaller patronage ... smaller profits .. smaller grant.. or no grant at all..... to its Football club
but hey .... 25 million in Leagues club revenue still .. added to the 10 million football revenue is 35 Million all up ..... more then half of the VFL clubs in Melbourne :wink:

when will you learn something about finance & money
what a **** you are :lol: :lol: :lol:
You and proof should never be mentioned in the same sentence :roll:

Thats the point moron. Cronulla may earn 25M in gaming revenue but their leagues club cost near this to run, and doesnt provide mmore than a few million a year in income for the club. This leaves their football revenue at just over 10M, about 1/3rd to a 1/5th of AFL clubs.

Your concept of finances is hilarious. :lol:
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in proper 'turnover' Penrith Panthers would be australias biggest football club. their leagues club 'panthers leagues' is part of a consortium called 'panthers group' which owns roughly 19 leagues clubs around australia, hotels and sporting and recreational facilities.
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Xman wrote:
214Four wrote:
heres some Sydney NRL Leagues clubs turnover.
Canterbury Leagues club (Canterbury Bulldogs) turnover is $70 million a year, Parramatta Leagues Club (Parramatta Eels) turnover is $43 million a year and Panthers Group (Penrith Panthers) has a tunover of $152 million a year.

Heres a link with some of that info
http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/09/27/clu ... s-revenue/
The difference is these teams actually only earn about $15M or less without gaming costs/revenue. They only get a few million revenue from these leagues clubs. There is no point them including the revenue from these clubs because the major proportion of it goes straight back into the running of these clubs,

This leaves them with only $15M to spend on their sports facilities, football departments, and associated costs etc. The AFL clubs have $30-50M to spend on their facilities, and operating costs.
hmmmmm

a VFL club has turnover of 80 million ( 55 mill football operation , & 25 Million gaming & other revenue streams ) .. of which only 1 million ends up as after tax profit

an NRL club .... Penrith .. has 167 Million turnover ( 152 Million gaming & other revenue streams , 15 Million football operation ) of which the same amount .... 1 million.... ends up as after tax profit

one club can't get its hand off its c,ock .. about its revenue
the other rarely says anything about theres

theres the difference .... & the only difference

right there :wink:
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NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
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NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

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214Four wrote:
in proper 'turnover' Penrith Panthers would be australias biggest football club. their leagues club 'panthers leagues' is part of a consortium called 'panthers group' which owns roughly 19 leagues clubs around australia, hotels and sporting and recreational facilities.
But thats not the point. The point is how much income do they get to spend on their football facilities, football operational costs, player payments, etc.

No use having a huge revenue stream from an associated club if these funds arent available to the sporting club to spend because the associated club needs them to cover their own costs.
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Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Link?

Yeah, thats why some NRL clubs cant even pay for a CEO, have no major sponsor and cant even pay staff superannuation. They also play and train in debilitated holes while the AFL teams upgrade their facilities regularly.

Oh Dave, you dreamer.... :lol:
:lol: :lol:
marcus .. spitting the dummy when ol RD is proven right ..... again

NRL clubs that can't even pay for a CEO ... :?
thats one club D head .... Cronulla

& again .... your brain dead notion that turnover equals wealth .. is exposed as the utter BS it is
the Cronulla Leagues club doesn't do that well ...
smaller membership base .. smaller patronage ... smaller profits .. smaller grant.. or no grant at all..... to its Football club
but hey .... 25 million in Leagues club revenue still .. added to the 10 million football revenue is 35 Million all up ..... more then half of the VFL clubs in Melbourne :wink:

when will you learn something about finance & money
what a **** you are :lol: :lol: :lol:
You and proof should never be mentioned in the same sentence :roll:

Thats the point moron. Cronulla may earn 25M in gaming revenue but their leagues club cost near this to run, and doesnt provide mmore than a few million a year in income for the club. This leaves their football revenue at just over 10M, about 1/3rd to a 1/5th of AFL clubs.

Your concept of finances is hilarious. :lol:
you are as dumb as they come
who cares about revenue ..... its profits ... & nothing else

the sharks are doing no worse then the Western Bulldogs . or North Melbourne ... Port Adelaide etc
with 1/3 of the football based revenue

proof definitive .... revenue means squat
its earnings .. V costs

its commerce 101 you utter knob :lol: :lol: :lol:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
214Four wrote:
heres some Sydney NRL Leagues clubs turnover.
Canterbury Leagues club (Canterbury Bulldogs) turnover is $70 million a year, Parramatta Leagues Club (Parramatta Eels) turnover is $43 million a year and Panthers Group (Penrith Panthers) has a tunover of $152 million a year.

Heres a link with some of that info
http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/09/27/clu ... s-revenue/
The difference is these teams actually only earn about $15M or less without gaming costs/revenue. They only get a few million revenue from these leagues clubs. There is no point them including the revenue from these clubs because the major proportion of it goes straight back into the running of these clubs,

This leaves them with only $15M to spend on their sports facilities, football departments, and associated costs etc. The AFL clubs have $30-50M to spend on their facilities, and operating costs.
hmmmmm

a VFL club has turnover of 80 million ( 55 mill football operation , & 25 Million gaming & other revenue streams ) .. of which only 1 million ends up as after tax profit

an NRL club .... Penrith .. has 167 Million turnover ( 152 Million gaming & other revenue streams , 15 Million football operation ) of which the same amount .... 1 million.... ends up as after tax profit

one club can't get its hand off its c,ock .. about its revenue
the other rarely says anything about theres

theres the difference .... & the only difference

right there :wink:
:lol: :lol:

The difference is the club with 55M in football associated revenue can afford: better facilities, better coaching, more support staff, a better stadium, state of the art training facilities, more marketing etc etc etc...

The club with 15M in football associated revenue struggles to pay its staff, has a small support crew, plays in a shi t hole of a stadium, has a crappy training facility, cant afford to promote itself.

But at least they made a profit! :lol: (which they probably didnt anyway!)

If the leagues clubs are so profitable why are nRL clubs screaming out for an increase in grants from the nRL??? :-k

Sharks chairman Damian Irvine said the money would help ease financial strain in the game.
"NRL clubs for many years have run at losses and had the burden of having to fund the product and player payments," Irvine said.

NRL interim chief executive Shane Mattiske said the money would offer clubs long-term security.

"It will provide the clubs with the ability to invest in their businesses for growth and it provides security for players and fans," Mattiske said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/n ... 6507863689
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Xman wrote:
214Four wrote:
in proper 'turnover' Penrith Panthers would be australias biggest football club. their leagues club 'panthers leagues' is part of a consortium called 'panthers group' which owns roughly 19 leagues clubs around australia, hotels and sporting and recreational facilities.
But thats not the point. The point is how much income do they get to spend on their football facilities, football operational costs, player payments, etc.

No use having a huge revenue stream from an associated club if these funds arent available to the sporting club to spend because the associated club needs them to cover their own costs.
as much as is needed
Leagues clubs hand over as much as is required ....
the Panthers will never be in financial trouble ..... how many giggleball teams can say that

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not many :wink:
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RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
:lol: :lol:
marcus .. spitting the dummy when ol RD is proven right ..... again

NRL clubs that can't even pay for a CEO ... :?
thats one club D head .... Cronulla

& again .... your brain dead notion that turnover equals wealth .. is exposed as the utter BS it is
the Cronulla Leagues club doesn't do that well ...
smaller membership base .. smaller patronage ... smaller profits .. smaller grant.. or no grant at all..... to its Football club
but hey .... 25 million in Leagues club revenue still .. added to the 10 million football revenue is 35 Million all up ..... more then half of the VFL clubs in Melbourne :wink:

when will you learn something about finance & money
what a **** you are :lol: :lol: :lol:
You and proof should never be mentioned in the same sentence :roll:

Thats the point moron. Cronulla may earn 25M in gaming revenue but their leagues club cost near this to run, and doesnt provide mmore than a few million a year in income for the club. This leaves their football revenue at just over 10M, about 1/3rd to a 1/5th of AFL clubs.

Your concept of finances is hilarious. :lol:
you are as dumb as they come
who cares about revenue ..... its profits ... & nothing else

the sharks are doing no worse then the Western Bulldogs . or North Melbourne ... Port Adelaide etc
with 1/3 of the football based revenue

proof definitive .... revenue means squat
its earnings .. V costs

its commerce 101 you utter knob :lol: :lol: :lol:
:roll:

Profit means far less than income. Income allows you to buy what you want, invest in your future, earn more money if spent wisely. All profit really does is benefit investors or allow you to save and then spend it in the future. Dumb plan when the savings are so small.

Why are we even talking about this? The nRL is the comp where 90% of the teams make a loss each year, despite small budgets... :lol:
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
214Four wrote:
in proper 'turnover' Penrith Panthers would be australias biggest football club. their leagues club 'panthers leagues' is part of a consortium called 'panthers group' which owns roughly 19 leagues clubs around australia, hotels and sporting and recreational facilities.
But thats not the point. The point is how much income do they get to spend on their football facilities, football operational costs, player payments, etc.

No use having a huge revenue stream from an associated club if these funds arent available to the sporting club to spend because the associated club needs them to cover their own costs.
as much as is needed
Leagues clubs hand over as much as is required ....
the Panthers will never be in financial trouble ..... how many giggleball teams can say that

answer
not many :wink:
Matt Elliott. Picture: Gregg Porteous Source: The Daily Telegraph

THE cash-flow problems at the Penrith Panthers became so dire that the club owed coach Matthew Elliott $25,000 in wages leading into Christmas.

Panthers chief executive Michael Leary labelled the shortfall on Elliott's pay a "mix up", but The Sunday Telegraph has been told it was a direct result of the club's financial woes.

Off-contract and in the firing line after Penrith's erratic start to the season, Elliott has since been paid and refused to discuss the topic when questioned.

"I have no comment at all about that. I'm trying to focus on coaching a footy team and the playing group are my top priority," Elliott said.

The Sunday Telegraph has also learned that some suppliers have refused to deliver goods until debts are settled - to the point where the Panthers Leagues Club almost ran out of toilet paper.
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RELATED COVERAGE
Lewis wants 300 games with Panthers The Daily Telegraph, 24 Jul 2011
Gus in Elliott backflip The Daily Telegraph, 29 May 2011
Panthers boss pulls pin The Daily Telegraph, 26 May 2011
Elliott could answer to Gould FoxSports, 11 May 2011
Gould to return to Penrith The Daily Telegraph, 11 May 2011
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On Elliott's late payment, Leary said: "It was a mix-up at the finance department over invoices, but he has re-submitted them and he has received his money.

"It wasn't that he wasn't getting paid. It was just a changeover in the way he was getting paid. I can guarantee you I haven't had one player come up and say they haven't been paid."

Aside from being forced to chase wages late last year, Elliott is also fighting to extend his career at Penrith. Whether to prolong his five-year term was a hot topic at last Wednesday's board meeting.

Younger members of the Penrith squad have reportedly been struggling with mixed messages from the coach in terms of their on-field role.

This was an issue raised in relation to Elliott and his complex game plans at the Panthers in 2008.

There are also growing rumblings among Penrith identities about the board of directors, who preside over both the leagues club and football club.

Considered untouchable because of the voting structure at the club, a number of former Penrith players have lost patience as the leagues club continues to haemorrhage.

The Sunday Telegraph has been told a number of senior players are frustrated at the lack of professionalism on a variety of levels.

One bone of contention is how physiotherapist Tony Larvin still works part-time after more than 10 years of service.

While most NRL clubs employ a full-time physio to assist with recovery and rehabilitation, the Panthers often visit Larvin's clinic in their own time to attend to injuries.

Poor home crowds are another concern, along with the club's refusal to sell non-ticketed memberships to cater for more supporters. At last Thursday's AGM for both boards, Leary admitted the club's 'disappointing' home crowds were a "concern" as the Panthers posted a loss of $11.9 million for the last financial year.

In 2009, the club recorded an $11.7 million loss.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6032546708

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Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
The difference is these teams actually only earn about $15M or less without gaming costs/revenue. They only get a few million revenue from these leagues clubs. There is no point them including the revenue from these clubs because the major proportion of it goes straight back into the running of these clubs,

This leaves them with only $15M to spend on their sports facilities, football departments, and associated costs etc. The AFL clubs have $30-50M to spend on their facilities, and operating costs.
hmmmmm

a VFL club has turnover of 80 million ( 55 mill football operation , & 25 Million gaming & other revenue streams ) .. of which only 1 million ends up as after tax profit

an NRL club .... Penrith .. has 167 Million turnover ( 152 Million gaming & other revenue streams , 15 Million football operation ) of which the same amount .... 1 million.... ends up as after tax profit

one club can't get its hand off its c,ock .. about its revenue
the other rarely says anything about theres

theres the difference .... & the only difference

right there :wink:
:lol: :lol:

The difference is the club with 55M in football associated revenue can afford: better facilities, better coaching, more support staff, a better stadium, state of the art training facilities, more marketing etc etc etc...

The club with 15M in football associated revenue struggles to pay its staff, has a small support crew, plays in a shi t hole of a stadium, has a crappy training facility, cant afford to promote itself.

But at least they made a profit! :lol: (which they probably didnt anyway!)

If the leagues clubs are so profitable why are nRL clubs screaming out for an increase in grants from the nRL??? :-k

Sharks chairman Damian Irvine said the money would help ease financial strain in the game.
"NRL clubs for many years have run at losses and had the burden of having to fund the product and player payments," Irvine said.

NRL interim chief executive Shane Mattiske said the money would offer clubs long-term security.

"It will provide the clubs with the ability to invest in their businesses for growth and it provides security for players and fans," Mattiske said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/n ... 6507863689

exact same profit
the only diiference .... one club boast like w@nkers about their turnover
the other doesn't

if VFL clubs have up to 5 times the turnover ... why are many broke
& the rest post profits a green grocer would blush at

marcus you've again been exposed as a dribbler who has no concept of business

back out while you're only a mile behind everyone else in here
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RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
But thats not the point. The point is how much income do they get to spend on their football facilities, football operational costs, player payments, etc.

No use having a huge revenue stream from an associated club if these funds arent available to the sporting club to spend because the associated club needs them to cover their own costs.
as much as is needed
Leagues clubs hand over as much as is required ....
the Panthers will never be in financial trouble ..... how many giggleball teams can say that

answer
not many :wink:
Matt Elliott. Picture: Gregg Porteous Source: The Daily Telegraph

THE cash-flow problems at the Penrith Panthers became so dire that the club owed coach Matthew Elliott $25,000 in wages leading into Christmas.

Panthers chief executive Michael Leary labelled the shortfall on Elliott's pay a "mix up", but The Sunday Telegraph has been told it was a direct result of the club's financial woes.

Off-contract and in the firing line after Penrith's erratic start to the season, Elliott has since been paid and refused to discuss the topic when questioned.

"I have no comment at all about that. I'm trying to focus on coaching a footy team and the playing group are my top priority," Elliott said.

The Sunday Telegraph has also learned that some suppliers have refused to deliver goods until debts are settled - to the point where the Panthers Leagues Club almost ran out of toilet paper.
Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar.

RELATED COVERAGE
Lewis wants 300 games with Panthers The Daily Telegraph, 24 Jul 2011
Gus in Elliott backflip The Daily Telegraph, 29 May 2011
Panthers boss pulls pin The Daily Telegraph, 26 May 2011
Elliott could answer to Gould FoxSports, 11 May 2011
Gould to return to Penrith The Daily Telegraph, 11 May 2011
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On Elliott's late payment, Leary said: "It was a mix-up at the finance department over invoices, but he has re-submitted them and he has received his money.

"It wasn't that he wasn't getting paid. It was just a changeover in the way he was getting paid. I can guarantee you I haven't had one player come up and say they haven't been paid."

Aside from being forced to chase wages late last year, Elliott is also fighting to extend his career at Penrith. Whether to prolong his five-year term was a hot topic at last Wednesday's board meeting.

Younger members of the Penrith squad have reportedly been struggling with mixed messages from the coach in terms of their on-field role.

This was an issue raised in relation to Elliott and his complex game plans at the Panthers in 2008.

There are also growing rumblings among Penrith identities about the board of directors, who preside over both the leagues club and football club.

Considered untouchable because of the voting structure at the club, a number of former Penrith players have lost patience as the leagues club continues to haemorrhage.

The Sunday Telegraph has been told a number of senior players are frustrated at the lack of professionalism on a variety of levels.

One bone of contention is how physiotherapist Tony Larvin still works part-time after more than 10 years of service.

While most NRL clubs employ a full-time physio to assist with recovery and rehabilitation, the Panthers often visit Larvin's clinic in their own time to attend to injuries.

Poor home crowds are another concern, along with the club's refusal to sell non-ticketed memberships to cater for more supporters. At last Thursday's AGM for both boards, Leary admitted the club's 'disappointing' home crowds were a "concern" as the Panthers posted a loss of $11.9 million for the last financial year.

In 2009, the club recorded an $11.7 million loss.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6032546708

:lol: :lol: :lol:
scanning scanning ............ news ltd :lol: :lol:

I'll take my info from the Panthers annual report .... instead of that tabloid piece of sh.it

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RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
You and proof should never be mentioned in the same sentence :roll:

Thats the point moron. Cronulla may earn 25M in gaming revenue but their leagues club cost near this to run, and doesnt provide mmore than a few million a year in income for the club. This leaves their football revenue at just over 10M, about 1/3rd to a 1/5th of AFL clubs.

Your concept of finances is hilarious. :lol:
you are as dumb as they come
who cares about revenue ..... its profits ... & nothing else

the sharks are doing no worse then the Western Bulldogs . or North Melbourne ... Port Adelaide etc
with 1/3 of the football based revenue

proof definitive .... revenue means squat
its earnings .. V costs

its commerce 101 you utter knob :lol: :lol: :lol:
:roll:

Profit means far less than income. Income allows you to buy what you want, invest in your future, earn more money if spent wisely. All profit really does is benefit investors or allow you to save and then spend it in the future. Dumb plan when the savings are so small.

Why are we even talking about this? The nRL is the comp where 90% of the teams make a loss each year, despite small budgets... :lol:

& the VFL has 3 times the revenue
& 75% of its clubs............. are STILL broke

& its getting worse

VFL .... financial mongs :lol: :lol: :lol:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
as much as is needed
Leagues clubs hand over as much as is required ....
the Panthers will never be in financial trouble ..... how many giggleball teams can say that

answer
not many :wink:
Matt Elliott. Picture: Gregg Porteous Source: The Daily Telegraph

THE cash-flow problems at the Penrith Panthers became so dire that the club owed coach Matthew Elliott $25,000 in wages leading into Christmas.

Panthers chief executive Michael Leary labelled the shortfall on Elliott's pay a "mix up", but The Sunday Telegraph has been told it was a direct result of the club's financial woes.

Off-contract and in the firing line after Penrith's erratic start to the season, Elliott has since been paid and refused to discuss the topic when questioned.

"I have no comment at all about that. I'm trying to focus on coaching a footy team and the playing group are my top priority," Elliott said.

The Sunday Telegraph has also learned that some suppliers have refused to deliver goods until debts are settled - to the point where the Panthers Leagues Club almost ran out of toilet paper.
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On Elliott's late payment, Leary said: "It was a mix-up at the finance department over invoices, but he has re-submitted them and he has received his money.

"It wasn't that he wasn't getting paid. It was just a changeover in the way he was getting paid. I can guarantee you I haven't had one player come up and say they haven't been paid."

Aside from being forced to chase wages late last year, Elliott is also fighting to extend his career at Penrith. Whether to prolong his five-year term was a hot topic at last Wednesday's board meeting.

Younger members of the Penrith squad have reportedly been struggling with mixed messages from the coach in terms of their on-field role.

This was an issue raised in relation to Elliott and his complex game plans at the Panthers in 2008.

There are also growing rumblings among Penrith identities about the board of directors, who preside over both the leagues club and football club.

Considered untouchable because of the voting structure at the club, a number of former Penrith players have lost patience as the leagues club continues to haemorrhage.

The Sunday Telegraph has been told a number of senior players are frustrated at the lack of professionalism on a variety of levels.

One bone of contention is how physiotherapist Tony Larvin still works part-time after more than 10 years of service.

While most NRL clubs employ a full-time physio to assist with recovery and rehabilitation, the Panthers often visit Larvin's clinic in their own time to attend to injuries.

Poor home crowds are another concern, along with the club's refusal to sell non-ticketed memberships to cater for more supporters. At last Thursday's AGM for both boards, Leary admitted the club's 'disappointing' home crowds were a "concern" as the Panthers posted a loss of $11.9 million for the last financial year.

In 2009, the club recorded an $11.7 million loss.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6032546708

:lol: :lol: :lol:
scanning scanning ............ news ltd :lol: :lol:

I'll take my info from the Panthers annual report .... instead of that tabloid piece of sh.it

K :wink:
If you can find one.... :lol:
PANTHERS, Australia's largest licensed club empire, is in financial meltdown and is expected to report an $11 million loss to members.
The loss, confirmed by outgoing chief executive Glenn Matthews, is the largest in reversals spanning more than five years. It will strip at least $1 million from the club's NRL playing budget and threatens 900 employees across the state.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/mighty-panthe ... z2B7n7at3g

Scanning.....news...oh wait.. :lol:
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Re: LOL @ Parramatta Bigger than Collingwood Predictions

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Raiderdave wrote:
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you are as dumb as they come
who cares about revenue ..... its profits ... & nothing else

the sharks are doing no worse then the Western Bulldogs . or North Melbourne ... Port Adelaide etc
with 1/3 of the football based revenue

proof definitive .... revenue means squat
its earnings .. V costs

its commerce 101 you utter knob :lol: :lol: :lol:
:roll:

Profit means far less than income. Income allows you to buy what you want, invest in your future, earn more money if spent wisely. All profit really does is benefit investors or allow you to save and then spend it in the future. Dumb plan when the savings are so small.

Why are we even talking about this? The nRL is the comp where 90% of the teams make a loss each year, despite small budgets... :lol:

& the VFL has 3 times the revenue
& 75% of its clubs............. are STILL broke

& its getting worse

VFL .... financial mongs :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: 9 of 17 clubs last year made a loss. Making a loss doesnt equal broke it equals spending more than you budgeted... :roll:
Its been widely reported than nine AFL clubs have made a loss this year, but in terms of operations only two Melbourne clubs (North and St Kilda lost money). Four clubs made profits of more than a million dollars. (Collingwood made more than $2 million).
http://www.AFL.com.au/portals/0/2012/af ... t_2011.pdf

You and finances....a match made in hades
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