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Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:01 am
by piesman2011
Dogs wrote:Xman wrote:ParraEelsNRL wrote:Mumble to the rescue, care to post the capacities and the biggest crowds?
A sell out means there is no more tickets for sale stupid! Whether the crowd achieves capacity is irrelevant.
What part of that very simple fact can't you understand?
XMAN give it a break. Given that Beaussie suggested that there was a sellout and it was posted on the 17th and they had just come back from perth, I am guessing it was for the Sk Kilda game. If the capacity is 33 odd K at the SGc at the moment and 26,834 fans turned up, it is well short of a sellout. I am sure that is well short of a few member not tuning up. That is 6266 member not turning up by your logic, basically 20% of the total crowd required for a sellout crowd, so give it a rest. Beaussie was wrong, it is very simple he went quite as he knew he was pulling **** out of you know what, but won't admit it and you then he leaves it to you to try and come to his defence and then leave you out to dry and look stupid. Very noble of you
20% is quite normal, the MCG often gets a bit over 80K for a sellout, however generally if a newspaper prints its a sellout which I linked and another newspaper prints 1000 tickets to sell with 3 days to go before we are sold out I will go with their assessment. The other thing I ahve yet to see is the actual capacity of the SCG. All I have really seen is speculation. Ive seen assessments from 35-30K, sometimes is it hard to estimate the capacity when works are being done.
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:25 am
by Dogs
so 1 in every 5 seats vacant is a sellout??? OK, now that is interesting
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:56 am
by eelofwest
Dogs wrote:so 1 in every 5 seats vacant is a sellout??? OK, now that is interesting
I heard the Brits told the world that the Olympic games was a sellout, did you guys see all the vacant seating on Tele....
So it looks like the Brits and the AFL have the same idea on what a sellout really is..
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:23 am
by Xman
Dogs wrote:so 1 in every 5 seats vacant is a sellout??? OK, now that is interesting
Another fool who doesn't understand a sellout means available tickets have "sold out"!
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:58 am
by piesman2011
The NRL will start to have similar issues over the next 10 year with increase in membership and stadiums being sold out more. Its an unfortunate side effect of the season ticket holder system. RL in OZ hasn't really experienced it yet but it will.
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:12 pm
by justanotherleaguefan
Skoda def isn't a sellout. Looks like there is about 2000 people there
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:55 pm
by Xman
justanotherleaguefan wrote:Skoda def isn't a sellout. Looks like there is about 2000 people there
Looks like a raiders game, plus the ground is double the size. Yet the raiders claim 10,001 almost ever time.
There'd be 7k minimum.
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:24 pm
by justanotherleaguefan
Of coure there is
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:52 pm
by Xman
justanotherleaguefan wrote:Of coure there is
You'd know. Your code specialises in creative accounting.
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:25 am
by MarkZZZ
justanotherleaguefan wrote:Skoda def isn't a sellout. Looks like there is about 2000 people there
Yeah justa I flipped to the game to see how it was going and i would have thought maybe 1/10 of the seats where taken, it would be interesting to see what the "official" numbers say.
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:59 am
by eelofwest
MarkZZZ wrote:justanotherleaguefan wrote:Skoda def isn't a sellout. Looks like there is about 2000 people there
Yeah justa I flipped to the game to see how it was going and i would have thought maybe 1/10 of the seats where taken, it would be interesting to see what the "official" numbers say.
official numbers
6811
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6442822143
6000 crowd? there is absolutely no chance there was 6000 at that ground. 2000 people there at the absolute maximum, no exaggeration. And all of them got free tickets. Anyone who actually pays money to go to a giants game is a mug. You pay for it enough in boredom.
Now it is obvious to even blind freddy that they are fudging numbers and giving away a shit tone of free tickets....
The talk around the town is the AFL are leaving free game day tickets on Car's at NRL games...
Really great tactic, but AFL as a brand in Sydney will continue to struggle to get People to the games. All you have to do is rock up to ANZ Stadium for a dogs or Rabitohs game and go to the car parks and grab some free tickets of peoples win shields complementary of the AFL.
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:31 am
by Xman
Again, if you divide the ground in to 4 quarters you could easily account for 1500 people in each quarter.
Creative crowd figures is an NRL thing. Don't accuse other codes of your own codes standards
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:45 am
by piesman2011
Call me a cynic but I dont really buy into the whole creative crowd figure thing. That goes for both sports. Mistakes have been made and teams and officals have been counted at times. I dont really see the point of a code or a team lying about a crowd figure. Theres no real reason to do so.
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:55 am
by ParraEelsNRL
Re: 33,048 Swans Members + Sellout Crowds in Sydney
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:18 pm
by MarkZZZ
You would have thought that with the Swans away this weekend some of the diehard 1,000,000 Swans fans (predominantly in Sydney you would expect) hard up for a game of AFL would have made their way to Scoda, I guess not.