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Just depends on how desperate 9 are willing to get. Either way nine is going to pay big time. Ten are doing everything thing in there power to get the rights. They sold Eye media specifically to raise revenue for the rights.
They sold eye media to reduce their massive debt. Whether they have enough to afford the NRL rights is another question.

Who says any of them are willing to pay up big for what amounts to 8 hrs of ratings a week (for 4 games)?
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:roll: No it was for the rights
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Channel 10 will be able to afford the NRL by cancelling low rating/poor media buying shows and replacing it with surefire ratings winner that will drag in significantly bigger advertising dollars. Standard business practice is replace bad product with good.
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enarelle wrote:
Channel 10 will be able to afford the NRL by cancelling low rating/poor media buying shows and replacing it with surefire ratings winner that will drag in significantly bigger advertising dollars. Standard business practice is replace bad product with good.
Again, the NRL only offers 2 hours per game, or 8 hrs for 4 games, and this content only appeals to two states, rating dismally in the other 4. Their combined Friday night live games rate well. Their Sunday is average and their 9.30pm Friday game rates also rates abysmally. So 2 hours of good ratings a week is worth 500-600M over 5 years is it? (FTA component). That aint much content to replace poorly rating shows.
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The improvement in quality content will be thru the roof if they go to 4 games a week including Monday night football. They will have lead in shows and post show productions that will give them high rating TV for at least 15 hours per week for 8 months of the year. What content gives them that now? Throw in bonanzas like SOO/Tests and finals series and away they go.

66% of the Advertising dollars spent in this country are spent in NSW/QLD. Channel 10 wants more of those dollars.
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justanotherleaguefan wrote:
:roll: No it was for the rights

C10 are saying to sure up debt, while some journalists are saying for the rights. I could understand that this may help them to make a bid for the NRL rights (currently they only get 120 million from it but it is a very good start). However C10 officially have not said this according to information have are read.

Ten said it would use the proceeds of the sale to pay off some of its debt, strengthen its balance sheet, and provide financing flexibilit

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs. ... nt&src=rss
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Xman wrote:
justanotherleaguefan wrote:
Just depends on how desperate 9 are willing to get. Either way nine is going to pay big time. Ten are doing everything thing in there power to get the rights. They sold Eye media specifically to raise revenue for the rights.
They sold eye media to reduce their massive debt. Whether they have enough to afford the NRL rights is another question.

Who says any of them are willing to pay up big for what amounts to 8 hrs of ratings a week (for 4 games)?

Exactly,

Xman , I must say I agree with you on this one.

How do we know CH 10 are prepared to spend up big on the NRL? After all they wer'nt prepared to part with 1cent for the AFL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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enarelle wrote:
The improvement in quality content will be thru the roof if they go to 4 games a week including Monday night football. They will have lead in shows and post show productions that will give them high rating TV for at least 15 hours per week for 8 months of the year. What content gives them that now? Throw in bonanzas like SOO/Tests and finals series and away they go.

66% of the Advertising dollars spent in this country are spent in NSW/QLD. Channel 10 wants more of those dollars.

Unfortunately 9, 7 and 10 are all metro only stations and only recieve between 29-34% of the money from regional TVs revenue. Because WIN etc need to make money as well. A lot of Qld/NSWs 57% of TV revenue(not 66% see link below) is regional (27%). Which in the end makes the money generated by Qld/NSW not that big for stations like 9, 7 and 10 as many think. This is what in the end will cost the NRL a huge pay day with 40% of its viewership being regional. This does not make it inferior to AFL it will just earn less money in my opinion.



http://www.freetv.com.au/Media/News-Med ... n_2011.pdf
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piesman2011 wrote:
justanotherleaguefan wrote:
:roll: No it was for the rights

C10 are saying to sure up debt, while some journalists are saying for the rights. I could understand that this may help them to make a bid for the NRL rights (currently they only get 120 million from it but it is a very good start). However C10 officially have not said this according to information have are read.

Ten said it would use the proceeds of the sale to pay off some of its debt, strengthen its balance sheet, and provide financing flexibilit

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs. ... nt&src=rss
Ch 10 has also just completed are revenue raising float that neted close to $200m.
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pussycat wrote:
Xman wrote:
justanotherleaguefan wrote:
Just depends on how desperate 9 are willing to get. Either way nine is going to pay big time. Ten are doing everything thing in there power to get the rights. They sold Eye media specifically to raise revenue for the rights.
They sold eye media to reduce their massive debt. Whether they have enough to afford the NRL rights is another question.

Who says any of them are willing to pay up big for what amounts to 8 hrs of ratings a week (for 4 games)?

Exactly,

Xman , I must say I agree with you on this one.

How do we know CH 10 are prepared to spend up big on the NRL? After all they wer'nt prepared to part with 1cent for the AFL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
More bs from you. Ch10 couldnt afford the AFL. I'm sure they would have bid for it if they had the cash. They'd be regretting it now. They've plummeted in the ratings race while the AFL ratings have risen substantially.
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piesman2011 wrote:
enarelle wrote:
The improvement in quality content will be thru the roof if they go to 4 games a week including Monday night football. They will have lead in shows and post show productions that will give them high rating TV for at least 15 hours per week for 8 months of the year. What content gives them that now? Throw in bonanzas like SOO/Tests and finals series and away they go.

66% of the Advertising dollars spent in this country are spent in NSW/QLD. Channel 10 wants more of those dollars.

Unfortunately 9, 7 and 10 are all metro only stations and only recieve between 29-34% of the money from regional TVs revenue. Because WIN etc need to make money as well. A lot of Qld/NSWs 57% of TV revenue(not 66% see link below) is regional (27%). Which in the end makes the money generated by Qld/NSW not that big for stations like 9, 7 and 10 as many think. This is what in the end will cost the NRL a huge pay day with 40% of its viewership being regional. This does not make it inferior to AFL it will just earn less money in my opinion.



http://www.freetv.com.au/Media/News-Med ... n_2011.pdf
well put. The NRL heavily rely on a regional audience to compete. This bodes poorly for them when combined with the fact an NRL game runs for 33% less than an AFL game, and can only fit in about 1/3rdthe ad breaks.
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piesman2011 wrote:
enarelle wrote:
The improvement in quality content will be thru the roof if they go to 4 games a week including Monday night football. They will have lead in shows and post show productions that will give them high rating TV for at least 15 hours per week for 8 months of the year. What content gives them that now? Throw in bonanzas like SOO/Tests and finals series and away they go.

66% of the Advertising dollars spent in this country are spent in NSW/QLD. Channel 10 wants more of those dollars.

Unfortunately 9, 7 and 10 are all metro only stations and only recieve between 29-34% of the money from regional TVs revenue. Because WIN etc need to make money as well. A lot of Qld/NSWs 57% of TV revenue(not 66% see link below) is regional (27%). Which in the end makes the money generated by Qld/NSW not that big for stations like 9, 7 and 10 as many think. This is what in the end will cost the NRL a huge pay day with 40% of its viewership being regional. This does not make it inferior to AFL it will just earn less money in my opinion.



http://www.freetv.com.au/Media/News-Med ... n_2011.pdf
In addition to programming fees, additional stations carry a fair degree of the main networks advertising


On those figures I noticed Regional NSW & Queensland earn around 3x the revenue of Adelaide and about double that of Perth.

And who knows was the futre may hold, NBN and Win are two of the biggest TV networks in the country.
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pussycat wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
enarelle wrote:
The improvement in quality content will be thru the roof if they go to 4 games a week including Monday night football. They will have lead in shows and post show productions that will give them high rating TV for at least 15 hours per week for 8 months of the year. What content gives them that now? Throw in bonanzas like SOO/Tests and finals series and away they go.

66% of the Advertising dollars spent in this country are spent in NSW/QLD. Channel 10 wants more of those dollars.

Unfortunately 9, 7 and 10 are all metro only stations and only recieve between 29-34% of the money from regional TVs revenue. Because WIN etc need to make money as well. A lot of Qld/NSWs 57% of TV revenue(not 66% see link below) is regional (27%). Which in the end makes the money generated by Qld/NSW not that big for stations like 9, 7 and 10 as many think. This is what in the end will cost the NRL a huge pay day with 40% of its viewership being regional. This does not make it inferior to AFL it will just earn less money in my opinion.



http://www.freetv.com.au/Media/News-Med ... n_2011.pdf
Pussy,

Look again the dollars earnt by regional Qld/NSW is about the same as Perth and Adelaide. This includes the fact that regional Qld/NSW having close to 2 times the population. On top of this CH9 for RL games currently only recieves about 1 third of WINS regional revenue (thats what WIN pays CH9 for its content. If you look at it closely, in terms of dollars earnt for CH9 it takes almost 6 regional Qlders or NSWmen to generate as much income for CH9 as 1 Perth viewer. Again I state this does not make NRL an unpopular sport just a poorly funded one.
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The value of a regional fan, revenue rise, is nearer 2 to 1 maybe 2.2 to 1


Regional NSW/Qld = 294m almost Trebles Adelaide = 106m

So I think its fair to say regional NSW/Qld councils out all S A.



Sydneys revenue is greater than all Victoria and Brisbane's is greater than all WA.

Figure were shown online by one of the media outlets(maybe the roar) earlier this year for the money generated on FTA by the football code. The AFL were only about 20% ahead despite having 1 extra match.
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pussycat wrote:
The value of a regional fan, revenue rise, is nearer 2 to 1 maybe 2.2 to 1


Regional NSW/Qld = 294m almost Trebles Adelaide = 106m

So I think its fair to say regional NSW/Qld councils out all S A.



Sydneys revenue is greater than all Victoria and Brisbane's is greater than all WA.

Figure were shown online by one of the media outlets(maybe the roar) earlier this year for the money generated on FTA by the football code. The AFL were only about 20% ahead despite having 1 extra match.
You're forgetting Tasmania, and the fact that the AFL rates near 100k in Brisbane and Sydney where as the NRL rates 30k or less AFL cities.

We've seen all these figures before. The NrL have an advantage because they are popular in Sydney and Brisbane where advertising is worth more. But as pies said, the AFL win the 5 city ratings easily and metro advertising is worth much more than regional advertising which is a significant proportion of the NRLs ratings.
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