Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:46 pm
by King-Eliagh
Hmm interesting. Werent there a few examples of stomping, including head stomping, which were basically dealt with by the AFL with a slap on the wrist for the head stomper?
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:55 pm
by Raiderdave
Drac wrote:
Unfortunate to see the bad example set by NSWRL players is filetring down to the grass roots.
Also very unfortunate to see supposedly respected Rugby League figures claiming that the subsequent bans were too harsh.
For head-stomping....
I have access to literally 30 similar incidents of player & crowd violence at VFL games throughout Sthn Australia
proof definitive that attempting to make your elite players act un naturally & not fight .... does nothing to stop players in lower levels of the game from fighting themselves
& also .... the punishments in the incidents in these VFL leagues are .... as limp wristed as they come
compared to this extraordinary level of reponse by the Brisbane Rugby League ... I mean wow
of course .... VFL players would also appeal any punishments like this ... who wouldn't ?
but when there aren't any
wots to appeal ?
VFL .. soft on violence
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:04 pm
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:
Drac wrote:
Unfortunate to see the bad example set by NSWRL players is filetring down to the grass roots.
Also very unfortunate to see supposedly respected Rugby League figures claiming that the subsequent bans were too harsh.
For head-stomping....
I have access to literally 30 similar incidents of player & crowd violence at VFL games throughout Sthn Australia
proof definitive that attempting to make your elite players act un naturally & not fight .... does nothing to stop players in lower levels of the game from fighting themselves
& also .... the punishments in the incidents in these VFL leagues are .... as limp wristed as they come
compared to this extraordinary level of reponse by the Brisbane Rugby League ... I mean wow
of course .... VFL players would also appeal any punishments like this ... who wouldn't ?
but when there aren't any
wots to appeal ?
VFL .. soft on violence
massive issues with junior RL violence have occurred only in the last few months. The evidence is clear. Allowing professional leagues to behave like animals without any retribution only encourages junior players to behave the same way.
NRL and RL a disgrace!
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:46 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Drac wrote:
Unfortunate to see the bad example set by NSWRL players is filetring down to the grass roots.
Also very unfortunate to see supposedly respected Rugby League figures claiming that the subsequent bans were too harsh.
For head-stomping....
I have access to literally 30 similar incidents of player & crowd violence at VFL games throughout Sthn Australia
proof definitive that attempting to make your elite players act un naturally & not fight .... does nothing to stop players in lower levels of the game from fighting themselves
& also .... the punishments in the incidents in these VFL leagues are .... as limp wristed as they come
compared to this extraordinary level of reponse by the Brisbane Rugby League ... I mean wow
of course .... VFL players would also appeal any punishments like this ... who wouldn't ?
but when there aren't any
wots to appeal ?
VFL .. soft on violence
massive issues with junior RL violence have occurred only in the last few months. The evidence is clear. Allowing professional leagues to behave like animals without any retribution only encourages junior players to behave the same way.
NRL and RL a disgrace!
issues with violence at RL games have been an issue since ... oohhh .... about 1908
same with VFL games ... since day dot D Head
the VFL attempts to ... gai it up on the field .... has NOT stopped violence elsewhere in the game .... has it ?
end of
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:10 pm
by King-Eliagh
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
I have access to literally 30 similar incidents of player & crowd violence at VFL games throughout Sthn Australia
proof definitive that attempting to make your elite players act un naturally & not fight .... does nothing to stop players in lower levels of the game from fighting themselves
& also .... the punishments in the incidents in these VFL leagues are .... as limp wristed as they come
compared to this extraordinary level of reponse by the Brisbane Rugby League ... I mean wow
of course .... VFL players would also appeal any punishments like this ... who wouldn't ?
but when there aren't any
wots to appeal ?
VFL .. soft on violence
massive issues with junior RL violence have occurred only in the last few months. The evidence is clear. Allowing professional leagues to behave like animals without any retribution only encourages junior players to behave the same way.
NRL and RL a disgrace!
issues with violence at RL games have been an issue since ... oohhh .... about 1908
same with VFL games ... since day dot D Head
the VFL attempts to ... gai it up on the field .... has NOT stopped violence elsewhere in the game .... has it ?
end of
Spot on. In fact I argue the VFLs attempts have resulted in increased dirtier unethical forms of violence, such as stomping. This is true.
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:26 pm
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
I have access to literally 30 similar incidents of player & crowd violence at VFL games throughout Sthn Australia
proof definitive that attempting to make your elite players act un naturally & not fight .... does nothing to stop players in lower levels of the game from fighting themselves
& also .... the punishments in the incidents in these VFL leagues are .... as limp wristed as they come
compared to this extraordinary level of reponse by the Brisbane Rugby League ... I mean wow
of course .... VFL players would also appeal any punishments like this ... who wouldn't ?
but when there aren't any
wots to appeal ?
VFL .. soft on violence
massive issues with junior RL violence have occurred only in the last few months. The evidence is clear. Allowing professional leagues to behave like animals without any retribution only encourages junior players to behave the same way.
NRL and RL a disgrace!
issues with violence at RL games have been an issue since ... oohhh .... about 1908
same with VFL games ... since day dot D Head
the VFL attempts to ... gai it up on the field .... has NOT stopped violence elsewhere in the game .... has it ?
end of
rubbish. I cant see ive seen all in brawls like seen in QLD junior RL for a long time in ARs. Yet the NRL had 2 in a few weeks which even included stomping on officials heads and parents involved.
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:35 pm
by King-Eliagh
An all in brawl occurred during my season playing marngrook just this year Xman you silly dope. Crowd were involved and it went on for minutes. I didnt like it but noone got seriously hurt and the next week it was back to business. Happens in both sports
Cue Xman's response "oh yeah, well you dont eeeeevvveeenn play marngrook. I know because you got the terminology wrong once"
A bigger doofus we may not come across.
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:57 pm
by Xman
King-Eliagh wrote:
An all in brawl occurred during my season playing marngrook just this year Xman you silly dope. Crowd were involved and it went on for minutes. I didnt like it but noone got seriously hurt and the next week it was back to business. Happens in both sports
Cue Xman's response "oh yeah, well you dont eeeeevvveeenn play marngrook. I know because you got the terminology wrong once"
A bigger doofus we may not come across.
No doubt you were cheering every punch on hey KE?
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:06 pm
by Raiderdave
King-Eliagh wrote:
An all in brawl occurred during my season playing marngrook just this year Xman you silly dope. Crowd were involved and it went on for minutes. I didnt like it but noone got seriously hurt and the next week it was back to business. Happens in both sports
Cue Xman's response "oh yeah, well you dont eeeeevvveeenn play marngrook. I know because you got the terminology wrong once"
A bigger doofus we may not come across.
yes indeed E
marcus is a tool ... nothing surer
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:37 am
by Xman
A 15-YEAR-OLD junior rugby league player last night had his appeal dismissed after receiving a two-year ban from the sport following last month's grand final brawls.
A total of 58 players were banned in the aftermath of the vicious fight, with 56 receiving 12-month suspensions and another copping a lifetime exile from the game.
What a filthy filthy game. It stands alone in junior violence thats for sure.
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:32 am
by King-Eliagh
Xman wrote:
King-Eliagh wrote:
An all in brawl occurred during my season playing marngrook just this year Xman you silly dope. Crowd were involved and it went on for minutes. I didnt like it but noone got seriously hurt and the next week it was back to business. Happens in both sports
Cue Xman's response "oh yeah, well you dont eeeeevvveeenn play marngrook. I know because you got the terminology wrong once"
A bigger doofus we may not come across.
No doubt you were cheering every punch on hey KE?
No i was on the other side of the field when it all went down. Have been involved in the odd biffo before, not really keen on it unless its entirely necessary, im always the one dragging folk away
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:33 am
by King-Eliagh
'Junior violence'
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:02 am
by Xman
King-Eliagh wrote:
'Junior violence'
Laughing at 58 junior players being banned for their involvement in a brawl. Nice one
Please show me an incident in junior AR's of this magnitude
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:37 am
by King-Eliagh
It's a one off Xman. There's no consistency in this 'junior violence' event you've found. There is consistency between your and Helen Lovejoys hysterics though Xman, that's for sure!
Re: The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:10 pm
by Xman
King-Eliagh wrote:
It's a one off Xman. There's no consistency in this 'junior violence' event you've found. There is consistency between your and Helen Lovejoys hysterics though Xman, that's for sure!
a one-off hey?
Four relatives of a 17-year-old Waterford rugby league player suspended for life after two ugly junior grand final brawls, have been asked to appear before a special disciplinary tribunal next week.