Talking Footy

eelofwest wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

pussycat wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

For fox exclusive games give me a bit of time. Probabaly about the same.

About 500K a game average for AFL with FTA and PTV. Maybe a bit more. Whats your average 400K?

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AFL :- 4.25 FTA matches each week(nearly all live) & 9 PTV matches.

NRL:- 3 FTA matches & 5 PTV matches.


What kind of victory is that? I guess when your supporting a lost cause you take whatever you can get.

All the coverage in the world will not change the facts that the NRL rates more on FTA and FOX.............Facts seem to be hard for these AFL fans to handle...........


NRL 1.2M Ave for Live FTA

NRL 280k+ for Live PTV




This little guy is a champ just like the NRL.... =D> =D> =D>

AFL pay TV exclusive no overlap average 329k (could only find one game) Looks like a win to me.
On top of that we have over 1.2 average for Friday nights. That's 2 for 2.

Have you seen the NRL overlap concurrent PTV ave Pies?

Round 6
Sat 13/04/13 730pm PTV NRL MEL vs SOUTHS 379k
Sat 13/04/13 730pm PTV NRL CAN vs WAR 85k + NZ sky TBA
Concurrent ratings for 13/04 Sat 730pm NRL PTV = 464k atm Nz Sky to add
Round 8
Concurrent games
Sun 05/05/13 2PM PTV NEW vs CRO 175k + NZ Sky delayed 37,900
Sun 05/05/13 2PM PTV GCT vs WAR 93k + NZ Sky 120,470
Concurrent ratings for 05/05 Sat 730pm NRL PTV = 426k
Round 10
Concurrent games
Sat 18/05/13 730pm PTV NQL vs SYD 265k
Sat 18/05/13 730pm PTV WAR vs PEN 125k + NZ Sky TBA
Concurrent ratings for 18/05 Sat 730pm NRL PTV = 390k NZ to add

Its well above the 400 mark so looks like you loose again mate.......

And your Live FTA ave you did not link it for me why????????????



Oh its about the 900k mark hey....................NRL easy winners again....... =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Any more excuses you got for us Ms Gillard (Spin King)............................

The sad thing is that you called me the spin king. :P
There you are spinning away and I play your game and win. Sad but true.
Keep up the cherry picking and spin spin spin just for the laughs.

Whats wrong Pies.....

i asked you for a ave Live FTA ratings for your code and you came up with sum gibberish because you realized that your code is behind by about 300k for Live games on FTA compared to the LIVE Fta NRL.

Then i asked you for the Fox Ave for AFL and you came up with some ave concurrent ave bullshit...


Wow Pies you really are loosing a grip on reality here mate.

Why cant you just tell me the honest truth on the Live AFL ave on FTA and Fox ave????????

Why on why Pies.......




Am i going to have to get the Live AFL FTA ratings For myself because Pies is butthurt............or is Pies going to man up and get the Live FTA and Fox ratings for me

eelofwest wrote:

Whats wrong Pies.....

i asked you for a ave Live FTA ratings for your code and you came up with sum gibberish because you realized that your code is behind by about 300k for Live games on FTA compared to the LIVE Fta NRL.

Then i asked you for the Fox Ave for AFL and you came up with some ave concurrent ave bullshit...


Wow Pies you really are loosing a grip on reality here mate.

Why cant you just tell me the honest truth on the Live AFL ave on FTA and Fox ave????????

Why on why Pies.......




Am i going to have to get the Live AFL FTA ratings For myself because Pies is butthurt............or is Pies going to man up and get the Live FTA and Fox ratings for me

You have copped a flogging in here the past few weeks and so what did you come up with? You want to compare a 2 game broadcast Not even a game) with our Sunday FTA only ratings ? When all of our games are broadcast are on PTV as well as FTA. Your ratings are smaller so you need to compare your PTV exclusive games with our simulcast games but only give us the PTV ratings.
You reek of desperation mate.
You need to compare like for like your Friday night broadcast with our Friday night game is a win for the AFL despite your game finishing at the kid friendly time of 9.30 and ours at midnight. One win for us. AFL PTV exclusive games are quite rare with just about all of them on at the same time as other games. Yours are rarely on at the same time. There is no like for like comparison, just bigger complete numbers for the NRL against our smaller incomplete numbers
Like for like you lose and you can't handle that.

AFL Live FTA ave 2013

https://twitter.com/MediaweekAUS
http://www.thinktv.com.au/content_commo ... eports.seo
Round 1
22/03/13 7/7Mate Fri FTA TV #AFL #aflcrowsbombers = 721 Metro + Regionals = 951k
28/03/13 7/7Mate Thu TV #AFL #aflbluestigers = 682k Metro+ regionals = 800k
30/03/13 7/7Mate Sat TV #AFL #aflsunssaints = 492k Metro + regionals = 650k DELAYED
01/04/13 7/7Mate Mon FTA TV #AFL #aflhawkscats = 614k Metro+regionals = 810k
Round 2
05/04/13 7/7mate Fri TV #AFL #aflsaintstigers = 681k+ regionals = 880k
06/04/13 7/7mateSat #AFL arvo =392k+regional = 550k DELAYED
06/04/13 7/7mate Sat #AFL night =519k + regionals = 700k
07/04/13 7/7mate Sun TV #AFL #AFLPiesBlues =632k+ regionals = 820k
Round 3
12/04/13 7/7mate Fri TV #AFL #AFLFreoBombers = 761k+ regionals = 950k
13/04/13 7/7mate Sat TV FTA #AFL arvo =268k+regionals = 350k DELAYED
13/04/13 7/7mate Sat TV FTA #AFL night = 658k+regionals = 850k
14/04/13 7/7mate Sun TV FTA #AFLPiesHawks = 739k+regionals = 950k
Round 4
19/04/13 7/7mate Fri TV #AFLSwansCats = 709k+ regionals = 900k
20/04/13 7/7mate Sat TV #AFL arvo = 328k+regionals = 450k DELAYED
20/04/13 7/7mate Sat TV #AFL night = 642k+regionals = 830k
21/04/13 7/7mate Sun TV #AFLNorthLions = 631k+regionals = 800k
Round 5
25/04/13 7/7mate Thu TV #AFL #ANZACDay #AFLBombersPies = 940k + regionals = 1.15m
26/04/13 7/7mate Fri TV #AFL #AFLFreoTigers = 660k+regionals = 800k
27/04/13 7/7mate Sat TV #AFL night = 561k+regionals = 700k
28/04/13 7/7mate Sun FTA #AFLHawksNorth = 446k+regionals = 600k
Round 6
03/05/13 7/7mate Fri FTA #AFL #AFLPiesSaints = 733k+regionals = 900k
04/05/13 7/7mate Sat TV #AFL arvo = 360k+regionals = 450k DELAYED
04/05/13 7/7mate Sat TV #AFL night = 714k+regionals = 900k
05/05/13 7/7mate Sun FTA TV #AFLEaglesDogs = 540k+regionals = 650k
Round 7
10/05/13 7/7mate Fri TV #AFLCatsBombers = 925k+regionals = 1.1m
11/05/13 7/7mate Sat TV #AFL arvo = 423k+regionals = 530k DELAYED
11/05/13 7/7mate Sat TV #AFL night = 764k+regionals = 900k
13/05/13 7/7mate Mon TV #AFL #AFLSaintsBlues = 545k+regionals = 600k
Round 8
17/05/13 7/7mate Fri TV #AFL #AFLEaglesNorth = 771k+regionals = 950k
18/05/13 7/7mate Sat FTA TV #AFL arvo = 386k+regionals = 500k DELAYED
18/05/13 7/7mate Sat FTA TV #AFL night = 744k+regionals = 950k



Now that is LIVE FTA ratings for the AFL and i am not even going to start to add these up for a average because it aint even close ladys and gents...


Now if Pies the gutless wander would do the Fox average for me that would be much appreciated .......

LIVE NRL FTA

Round 1
Live Thursday 07/03/13 NRL Syd vs Souths 1.4m viewers + Nz Sky 60,660
Live Friday 08/03/13 NRL Bri vs Manly 1.27m viewers + Nz Sky 40k
Round 2
Live Thursday 14/03/13 NRL Eels vs Dogs 1.1m viewers
Live Friday 15/03/13 NRL StG vs Bri 1.1m viewers + Nz Sky 31,130
Round 3
Live Thursday 21/03/13 NRL Cby vs Mel 1m viewers
Live Friday 22/03/13 NRL Eels vs Wests1m viewers + NZ Sky 41,980
Round 4
Live Thursday 28/03/13 NRL MAN vs WEST 1.05m viewers
Live Friday 29/03/13 NRL BRI vs MEL 1.2m viewers + NZ Sky 36,870
Round 5
Live 7.30 pm Friday 05/04/13 NRL Man vs CBY-NSW/ Bri vs GCT-QLD 1.4m viewers + NZ Sky TBA
Round 6
Live 7.30 pm Friday 12/04/13 NRL SYD vs CBY-NSW/BRI vs NQD-QLD 1.4m + NZ Sky 86,070
Rep Round
Live 730pm 19/04/13 NZ VS AUS 1.35m + NZ Sky 164,550k
Round 7
Live 4pm 25/04/13 SYD vs STG 900k + NZ Sky 34,960
Live 730pm 26/04/13 MAN vs SOUTHS 1.35m + NZ Sky TBA
Round 8
Live 730pm 03/05/13 BRI vs SOU 1.25m + NZ Sky TBA
Round 9
Live 730pm 10/05/13 NQL vs SOU 1.1m + NZ Sky 23k
Round 10
Live 730pm 17/05/13 SOU vs WST NSW/ BRI vs GCT QLD 1.25m



GAME SET MATCH............ =D> =D> =D>

What happens when an AFL game is on pay and ftA ? Each compromises the other. I think total figures is the go otherwise gets too complex and each code could argue this that or the other as is evident by this thread . So if you get 300 on fox for nrl and 500 on ftA and say AFL only got 300 on pay, it's not really telling the full picture I don't think. Similarly, if you get 300 for nrl on fox and no free to air , it's a bit unfair because you are only measuring those people who have fox who choose to watch that nrl game whereas if it was also on ftA would have likely got 500 also . So maybe it's a pudding contest not worth having due to so many variables and ways if viewing it.

Phelpsy wrote:

What happens when an AFL game is on pay and ftA ? Each compromises the other. I think total figures is the go otherwise gets too complex and each code could argue this that or the other as is evident by this thread . So if you get 300 on fox for nrl and 500 on ftA and say AFL only got 300 on pay, it's not really telling the full picture I don't think. Similarly, if you get 300 for nrl on fox and no free to air , it's a bit unfair because you are only measuring those people who have fox who choose to watch that nrl game whereas if it was also on ftA would have likely got 500 also . So maybe it's a pudding contest not worth having due to so many variables and ways if viewing it.

Dingdingdingding we have a winner, Phelpsy is volunteering to do Average ratings for Live AFL ON foxtell............. =D> =D>


I await your findings Phelpsy..........

No I'm not lol. I'm saying it is pointless.. As many games are on ftA at same time . And you're only measuring those people who own pay tv . As most nrl games are on pay only also skews it. Living in qld if you don't have pay you rarely get to watch rl. So if you love rl and don't follow broncos you really need pay tv. Whereas if your in qld or NSW you get every swans and gained game live on ftA. I just dont think you can compare. Fact is on total, which you make some Arguments for not doing, AFL has higher average per round. Nothing to do with extra game, which given gains crowd , would drag average down. But I agree too many variables as you point out.

The 3 best NRL matches (in Ch9 opinion) are shown on FTA. Meaning the large gulf in PTV between the 2 codes would be even wider if we got to show our No.1,2 & 3 best match on PTV. the AFL show there best to - 9th rated matches, Where as the NRL only get to show there 4th to 8th rated matches.

pussycat wrote:

The 3 best NRL matches (in Ch9 opinion) are shown on FTA. Meaning the large gulf in PTV between the 2 codes would be even wider if we got to show our No.1,2 & 3 best match on PTV. the AFL show there best to - 9th rated matches, Where as the NRL only get to show there 4th to 8th rated matches.

So list all your possible improvements but leave all of the AFL ones out. Talking about spinning your own product but not acknowledging the opposition. Here are some AFL possible improvements that could maximise PTV ratings and they would produce a much bigger jump in PTV ratings then what you suggested for the NRL: Monday nights, all games on at different times with no overlap, PTV games for the SA/WA/Qld and NSW teams to local markets and a little thing called exclusive games to PTV would push the AFL pay TV ratings up to at least the same levels if not in front of the NRL PTV ratings in my opinion. Its not going to happen but the way that you pretend that only your games could get improve their PTV ratings is quite comical.

pussycat wrote:

The 3 best NRL matches (in Ch9 opinion) are shown on FTA. Meaning the large gulf in PTV between the 2 codes would be even wider if we got to show our No.1,2 & 3 best match on PTV. the AFL show there best to - 9th rated matches, Where as the NRL only get to show there 4th to 8th rated matches.

I would say the best 2 matches are on FTA, there is at least 1 game a week on FTA that is a terrible matchup. But overall totally agree, none of it matters to much anyways.


The Gap for FTA ratings and Fox ratings is huge and the NRL is holding this baby up every week.

I don't think you can compare fox figures when the same game is on ftA and vice versa

piesman2011 wrote:

pussycat wrote:

The 3 best NRL matches (in Ch9 opinion) are shown on FTA. Meaning the large gulf in PTV between the 2 codes would be even wider if we got to show our No.1,2 & 3 best match on PTV. the AFL show there best to - 9th rated matches, Where as the NRL only get to show there 4th to 8th rated matches.

So list all your possible improvements but leave all of the AFL ones out. Talking about spinning your own product but not acknowledging the opposition. Here are some AFL possible improvements that could maximise PTV ratings and they would produce a much bigger jump in PTV ratings then what you suggested for the NRL: Monday nights, all games on at different times with no overlap, PTV games for the SA/WA/Qld and NSW teams to local markets and a little thing called exclusive games to PTV would push the AFL pay TV ratings up to at least the same levels if not in front of the NRL PTV ratings in my opinion. Its not going to happen but the way that you pretend that only your games could get improve their PTV ratings is quite comical.

I don't think there would be to much, if any, difference between what you suggest and your oppening round match.

There would'nt be a lot of difference in the club matches but the NRL also have representative matches

AFL rd1
1. (F) Live Ch 7 Melb/Ade & live 7mate in Perth
2. (Sat) live 7mate in Perth
3. (T) live CH.7 Melb/Ade & Live 7 mate Perth
4.(SAT) --------------
5.(SAT) Live Ch.7 Ade
6. (SAT) Live Ch7 Melb/ Ade & Live 7mate Perth
7. (SUN) Live Ade. CH.7
8.(Sun) --------------------
9 (Mon) Live Ch.7 Melb/ade/Perth.
= 6m

Total for 4 live matches in Melb., 6 live matches in Ade., 5 Live matches Perth(4 of those on 7 mate) Shown over 2 weeks so all were shown in there own exclusive timeslots.

pussycat wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

pussycat wrote:

The 3 best NRL matches (in Ch9 opinion) are shown on FTA. Meaning the large gulf in PTV between the 2 codes would be even wider if we got to show our No.1,2 & 3 best match on PTV. the AFL show there best to - 9th rated matches, Where as the NRL only get to show there 4th to 8th rated matches.

So list all your possible improvements but leave all of the AFL ones out. Talking about spinning your own product but not acknowledging the opposition. Here are some AFL possible improvements that could maximise PTV ratings and they would produce a much bigger jump in PTV ratings then what you suggested for the NRL: Monday nights, all games on at different times with no overlap, PTV games for the SA/WA/Qld and NSW teams to local markets and a little thing called exclusive games to PTV would push the AFL pay TV ratings up to at least the same levels if not in front of the NRL PTV ratings in my opinion. Its not going to happen but the way that you pretend that only your games could get improve their PTV ratings is quite comical.

I don't think there would be to much, if any, difference between what you suggest and your oppening round match.

There would'nt be a lot of difference in the club matches but the NRL also have representative matches

AFL rd1
1. (F) Live Ch 7 Melb/Ade & live 7mate in Perth
2. (Sat) live 7mate in Perth
3. (T) live CH.7 Melb/Ade & Live 7 mate Perth
4.(SAT) --------------
5.(SAT) Live Ch.7 Ade
6. (SAT) Live Ch7 Melb/ Ade & Live 7mate Perth
7. (SUN) Live Ade. CH.7
8.(Sun) --------------------
9 (Mon) Live Ch.7 Melb/ade/Perth.
= 6m

Total for 4 live matches in Melb., 6 live matches in Ade., 5 Live matches Perth(4 of those on 7 mate) Shown over 2 weeks so all were shown in there own exclusive timeslots.

I'm not talking about overall improvements, just foxtel rating improvements. The ratings were pretty much neck and neck for foxtel comparing our round 1 with your Saturday and Sunday fox ratings. That was even taking into consideration FTA broadcasts of all games. The only game exclusive to fox and not overlapping rated 320k. It involved one high rating team and one low rating team, so it wasnt what I call a great game either.

Round 8 AFL rated over 5 million nation wide.