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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:14 pm
by Truthsayer
pussycat wrote:Truthsayer wrote:I don't have to. The quote I gave from the article that was linked said it all. Perhaps it is you who should be looking up the new broadcast laws.
article wrote:Seven was able to onsell some of the 4 Free to Air matches if it had a broadcast partner but has always said it would happily screen them all, by utilising its digital channels under the new anti-siphoning rules.
Here's the article. (It's about the conditions C.7 must follow in regards to its new contract with the AFL). C.7 has purchased the right to broadcast 4 matches. Under the terms of the deal there allowed to sell some of those 4 matches to another Tv network . But if not If not C.7 will screen all 4, but some may appear on digital stations only(7 mate). Previously/currently anti - siphoning laws prevented you from showing matches on digital stations only . that won't be the case next year however - it may only be 1 match(Im not sure).
At no stage did the article state that Seven has access to all nine games. They do because they are part of the deal that was made with pay television. The broadcast rules from the federal government requires that all elite sport in Australia be presented on Free to Air. That is a fact of law and will also affect the NRL where Nine will be under the same pressure.
Seven must broadcast all nine games, or be in violation of those laws.
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:04 pm
by pussycat
Okay
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:32 pm
by cooee
Truthsayer wrote:pussycat wrote:Truthsayer wrote:I don't have to. The quote I gave from the article that was linked said it all. Perhaps it is you who should be looking up the new broadcast laws.
article wrote:Seven was able to onsell some of the 4 Free to Air matches if it had a broadcast partner but has always said it would happily screen them all, by utilising its digital channels under the new anti-siphoning rules.
Here's the article. (It's about the conditions C.7 must follow in regards to its new contract with the AFL). C.7 has purchased the right to broadcast 4 matches. Under the terms of the deal there allowed to sell some of those 4 matches to another Tv network . But if not If not C.7 will screen all 4, but some may appear on digital stations only(7 mate). Previously/currently anti - siphoning laws prevented you from showing matches on digital stations only . that won't be the case next year however - it may only be 1 match(Im not sure).
At no stage did the article state that Seven has access to all nine games. They do because they are part of the deal that was made with pay television. The broadcast rules from the federal government requires that all elite sport in Australia be presented on Free to Air. That is a fact of law and will also affect the NRL where Nine will be under the same pressure.
Seven must broadcast all nine games, or be in violation of those laws.
The anti-siphoning list states
4 games per round of the AFL on FTA not 9.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/817 ... oning-list
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:44 pm
by Truthsayer
Mr Cooee, that link is from late 2010. A new AFL deal has since been signed, and I am expecting the Minister to update the Tier 2 list of both the AFL and the NRL to all games. The list is not hard and fast for the four years depicted.
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:55 pm
by cooee
Truthsayer wrote:Mr Cooee, that link is from late 2010. A new AFL deal has since been signed, and I am expecting the Minister to update the Tier 2 list of both the AFL and the NRL to all games. The list is not hard and fast for the four years depicted.
Mate you clearly have no idea.
You are going to be seriously disappointed and embarrassed come Round 1 next year when seven only show 4 games and Fox all 9.
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:00 pm
by Truthsayer
I'm sorry, but you are the one who does not have any idea.
In fact if you prove to be correct I shall be writing a letter of complaint to the ACMA.
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:00 am
by cooee
The Seven Network will broadcast four games of each nine-match round, as well as all finals, which will be shown live across the country.
http://www.AFL.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx
The AFL must have it wrong too then.
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:11 am
by Truthsayer
That is correct. They do have it wrong. As I stated the Tier 2 list will change before season 2012. What is stated by the AFL merely agrees with what is the current Tier 2 list.
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:28 am
by cooee
Truthsayer wrote:That is correct. They do have it wrong. As I stated the Tier 2 list will change before season 2012. What is stated by the AFL merely agrees with what is the current Tier 2 list.
Got any proof of that?
So according to you Seven only brought 4 games but will be forced by the anti-siphoning legislation to show all 9?
Fox wouldn't be very happy with that.
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:29 am
by Truthsayer
They will both be showing the games in order to stay within the deal they signed. Yes, Foxtel won't be very happy I agree.
The proof lies in the power the Communications Minister has through the legislation. I have private information that during the summer of 2011/2012 that he will be changing the Tier 2 listing. I trust the source.
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:44 pm
by pussycat
Truthsayer wrote:They will both be showing the games in order to stay within the deal they signed. Yes, Foxtel won't be very happy I agree.
The proof lies in the power the Communications Minister has through the legislation. I have private information that during the summer of 2011/2012 that he will be changing the Tier 2 listing. I trust the source.
Ch.7 has purchase 4 matches and will televise 4 matches - that is a fact!
Foxtel has purchased 9 matches and will televise 9 matches - that is a fact!
All this will be done with full government approval - that is also a fact.
Anyone who argues with facts is a fool!
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:13 pm
by Raiderdave
Truthsayer wrote:Mr Cooee, that link is from late 2010. A new AFL deal has since been signed, and I am expecting the Minister to update the Tier 2 list of both the AFL and the NRL to all games. The list is not hard and fast for the four years depicted.
yes
umm have you actually read it
it says ... 4 on 7
all 9 on fox ... 5 exclusive to ... fox
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:14 pm
by Raiderdave
Truthsayer wrote:I'm sorry, but you are the one who does not have any idea.
In fact if you prove to be correct I shall be writing a letter of complaint to the ACMA.
get the pen out peanut
start writing now
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:20 pm
by Raiderdave
Truthsayer wrote:That is correct. They do have it wrong. As I stated the Tier 2 list will change before season 2012. What is stated by the AFL merely agrees with what is the current Tier 2 list.
which they have a legally binding contract for
Fox paid the big dough to get all 9 games .. but more importantly
5 exclusive .. so they could attract subsciptions
without exclusivety they could not do this as veiwers could watch games .. all games according to you ... on FTA , & pay nothing
Foxtel would take the Govt to court
& sue them for 650 Million ... & win
your brain is simply not working in this debate
give yourself an upperslap .. wake up & smell the coffee
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:26 pm
by Truthsayer
pussycat wrote:Truthsayer wrote:They will both be showing the games in order to stay within the deal they signed. Yes, Foxtel won't be very happy I agree.
The proof lies in the power the Communications Minister has through the legislation. I have private information that during the summer of 2011/2012 that he will be changing the Tier 2 listing. I trust the source.
Ch.7 has purchase 4 matches and will televise 4 matches - that is a fact!
Foxtel has purchased 9 matches and will televise 9 matches - that is a fact!
All this will be done with full government approval - that is also a fact.
Anyone who argues with facts is a fool!
Here is a fact that you failed to take into consideration, Mr Pussycat. The Minister has the power to alter the anti-siphoning list. Under the changes that I understand will be occurring, the "facts" that you stated would no longer be fact. You would do well to keep your eyes and ears on press releases from either Minister Conroy's office or the Department of Communications.