Talking Footy

I predicted the most lopsided of all time. And that's what it was. You predicted it was all fine, and it wasnt.

Me right. You? Oh so wrong.

This season will force you to chew and consequently vomit your own words up Xman. Your nicname is not fooling any of us, you're no superhero!

Lets see the suns and gws become amazingly competitive teams. Why pies has already predicted the suns'll be in the 8 next year. I wonder how he'll feel at the end of season 2013

You've been a bit more conservative Xman. But alas, you too will look the fool if this season is like last.

After 2 rounds (I know there's a long way to go we have had 11 blow outs out of 15 matches played. If RL used similar scoring to AFL. We would have had 4-5 100 point floggings in the first 2 rounds alone. As for most teams winning the AFL ladder in 2012 didn't look to dissimilar after 2 rounds with 13 AFL sides having won a game after round 2.
Dogs you are incorrect there will be 3 NRL sides with 3 wins after round 2. I like most of your posting normally some good stuff. The post you did with the odds for GWS was excellent.
But on a serious note if we are upsetting you perhaps you should forget reading this site. Most if the posts are just trolling efforts trying to get a rise out of our fellows. The sport of RL and AR are 2 great sports loved by many Aussies and I respect the passion of the fans and the skills of the players from both sports. To be honest I am just trolling on this thread and I particularly enjoy the excellent arguments and trolling put forward by KE in particular.

King-Eliagh wrote:

I predicted the most lopsided of all time. And that's what it was. You predicted it was all fine, and it wasnt.

Me right. You? Oh so wrong.

This season will force you to chew and consequently vomit your own words up Xman. Your nicname is not fooling any of us, you're no superhero!

Lets see the suns and gws become amazingly competitive teams. Why pies has already predicted the suns'll be in the 8 next year. I wonder how he'll feel at the end of season 2013

You've been a bit more conservative Xman. But alas, you too will look the fool if this season is like last.

Hey hey hey you troll. I've corrected that mistake and you have acknowledged that it was 2014.

King-Eliagh wrote:

I predicted the most lopsided of all time. And that's what it was. You predicted it was all fine, and it wasnt.

Me right. You? Oh so wrong.

This season will force you to chew and consequently vomit your own words up Xman. Your nicname is not fooling any of us, you're no superhero!

Lets see the suns and gws become amazingly competitive teams. Why pies has already predicted the suns'll be in the 8 next year. I wonder how he'll feel at the end of season 2013

You've been a bit more conservative Xman. But alas, you too will look the fool if this season is like last.

I also expected last season would see some struggling teams! Wow, im a genius too

But, thats the price of expansion. I know it, every AFL fan knows it. Weve done it before you know, a number of times

and how does it end up? Look at the lions, swans, power, crows, eagles, dockers. All quality clubs with excellent followings well above all NRL teams bar maybe Brisbane Broncos.

I predict the suns and giants will win 3-5 games each this year, Next year will be 5-10, the year after middle of the pack,, the year after finals. A small price to pay for a more vibrant national competition. =D>

pies wrote:

If RL used similar scoring to AFL

Oh dear pies, you're unraveling your wonderful theory here! You may as well be saying, "if apples were orange in colour and had the skin and content of an orange, then ... "

Show's over pies, your theory has been blown outta the water, countless times.

I must say though, you've made a good point re my excellent arguments. I'm quite happy with the research led by yours truly and eelsofwest last year. It really was spot on stuff, something Xman is clearly envious of.

King-Eliagh wrote:

pies wrote:

If RL used similar scoring to AFL

Oh dear pies, you're unraveling your wonderful theory here! You may as well be saying, "if apples were orange in colour and had the skin and content of an orange, then ... "

Show's over pies, your theory has been blown outta the water, countless times.

I must say though, you've made a good point re my excellent arguments. I'm quite happy with the research led by yours truly and eelsofwest last year. It really was spot on stuff, something Xman is clearly envious of.

yes, well done on predicting the obvious!

Pies is still right though. RL is lower scoring. Taking that into account the NRL are suffering some massively one sided games at the moment.

for shame!

One sided games arent the best but having a lopsided COMP is incredibly damaging. Lets cross our fingers and pray for the AFL this season folks. It looks like that'd be the best bet we've got of making a change cause the AFL certainly havent done nuttin to remedy the awerful comp last year.

King-Eliagh wrote:

pies wrote:

If RL used similar scoring to AFL

Oh dear pies, you're unraveling your wonderful theory here! You may as well be saying, "if apples were orange in colour and had the skin and content of an orange, then ... "

Show's over pies, your theory has been blown outta the water, countless times.

I must say though, you've made a good point re my excellent arguments. I'm quite happy with the research led by yours truly and eelsofwest last year. It really was spot on stuff, something Xman is clearly envious of.

Yeah sure it has. Firstly its not a theroy its a transcription you ignoramus. Second of all you keep making a fool of yourself by saying I cant compare apples to oranges because you keep doing it yourself. Get a grip. So when you say its over that makes it over.

Wow 36 to 0 and 32 to 0 imagine going to a game and seeing your team not even scoring. Does that happen a lot in your comp? I can understand it happening in soccer but its happened 2 times in 15 games so far in the NRL this season.

Shows over pies, your "let's say times their scores by five" theory has no support from any credible source...apart from Xman, the mod of a small time footy forum who is impressed by superheros.

It's difficult to talk on an even level with someone who clearly only has knowledge of marngrook and the AFL comp and nothing of the NRL comp and Rugby League.

A game where a team doesnt score usually indicates a fantastic defensive effort by the team who wins. It is often an amazing display of team unity, brute strength, commitment and discipline to holding a solid defensive structure. But...you know nothing of the sport so you wouldnt know about that.

King-Eliagh wrote:

Shows over pies, your "let's say times their scores by five" theory has no support from any credible source...apart from Xman, the mod of a small time footy forum who is impressed by superheros.

Like I said its not a theroy its changing the data presented (transcribing) it into a format which enables it to be easily compared to AR scores. It was to help eels and others understand that the blow outs in the NRL were even more common then the blow outs in the AFL. Another way would be to just compare the AFL goals scored. ie 20 goals to 10. Its not a theory im not trying to prove anything, im just highlighting facts. The five times was just a rough way to get the NRL score close to the AFL average total of about 180 points. Do you want me to be more analytical and give you a more precise number? I can go back to percentages if you want? Ignore the rest of what I am saying if you want because you dont have any sound arguments to counter any of it.

P.S add more seesaw pictures I need more of a laugh.

King-Eliagh wrote:

It's difficult to talk on an even level with someone who clearly only has knowledge of marngrook and the AFL comp and nothing of the NRL comp and Rugby League.

A game where a team doesnt score usually indicates a fantastic defensive effort by the team who wins. It is often an amazing display of team unity, brute strength, commitment and discipline to holding a solid defensive structure. But...you know nothing of the sport so you wouldnt know about that.

Ive heard complaints about it being quite boring. Is that another way of putting it?

piesman2011 wrote:

King-Eliagh wrote:

Shows over pies, your "let's say times their scores by five" theory has no support from any credible source...apart from Xman, the mod of a small time footy forum who is impressed by superheros.

Like I said its not a theroy its changing the data presented (transcribing) it into a format which enables it to be easily compared to AR scores. It was to help eels and others understand that the blow outs in the NRL were even more common then the blow outs in the AFL. Another way would be to just compare the AFL goals scored. ie 20 goals to 10. Its not a theory im not trying to prove anything, im just highlighting facts. The five times was just a rough way to get the NRL score close to the AFL average total of about 180 points. Do you want me to be more analytical and give you a more precise number? I can go back to percentages if you want? Ignore the rest of what I am saying if you want because you dont have any sound arguments to counter any of it.

P.S add more seesaw pictures I need more of a laugh.

Clearly you are theorising that multiplying an NRL score by 5 makes it equivalent to an AFL score. So dont try and validate your own diarrhea induced theory by claiming its a factual transcription

The simplicity of your theory is so bleedin obvious though and the massive flaw in it is quite easily located. You clearly have no idea what the definition of a blowout in RL is vis a vis a marngrook blowout. And you clearly dont understand that a simple mathematical equation of "lets say times by 5" cannot validly encompass what the differences of what a blowout entails between the two codes.

My argument is about the lopsidedness of the AFL 2012 comp, AND IT being the most lopsided in history (this is supported by credible folk in the business) and perhaps the most lopsided in Australian professional sporting history. As yet noones discredited the latter But I'm all ears to anyone who can.

Blowouts are just one sign of a lopsided comp but in themselves they dont tell us if the comp is lopsided. No, one has to look at the ladder and whether there is a significant gap between numerous bottom teams and those who make the finals. In the case of the 2012 AFL season, that gap was a gap of the likes the AFL has never ever seen before. And they're worried about it. But they dont seem to have any solutions. Hence my thread

Simple is often better. If my facts make NRL look more lopsided then AFL is it my fault for opening your eyes. The massive flaw in my data is so obvious that you havent yet even come close to putting any holes in it. Simply pointing and laughing and stating apples and oranges doesnt really help your argument.
I might not understand the game of RL that well but the same could be said of people pointing and laughing at some of the scores that the AFL produces. What my figures do well is get an RL score to add up to about the same as an AR score and that was all that it was supposed to show. No rocket science was needed.
I thought your thread was about options for a lopsided comp and I thought I could help you see that the NRL also has its issues with this as much as the AFL has. Like I have said before. The AFL draw although not perfect sorts out teams in the end. AFL has had more premiers over the last 10,15 and 20 years then any other professional competition in OZ. The NRL on the other hand has been dominated by newslimited poped up sides for the last 15 years with sides like Brisbane and Melbourne winning the premiership about half the time. What are the odds for the Storm to go back to back in 2013? I would have them at almost 50% chance to win it again.
First thing we need to do is get the NRL a draft system. Im sure that the commision is considering it as we speak.