Talking Footy

pussycat wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

NZ's regionals, or ratings etc were never discussed in this manner and therefore not compared.

Fact is the AFL is worth more to Ch7/Foxtel than the NRL is to Ch9/Foxtel. This is exactly what were were saying!

so
Ch 7 & foxtel paid 950 Million in cash & another 150m in contra for ..... 594 hours of VFL a year
&
Ch 9 & foxtel paid 925 Million in cash & another 100m in contra for ..... 384 hours of NRL a year

I'd say the 2 bottom carriers feel the NRL .... is far ... far more valuable
end of

I agree with you Dave. Per hour the NRL get more money from its broadcast deal. In its current format the NRL with 2 Friday nights, monday night and no broadcasts overlapping (apart from maybe Saturday night) makes it an excellent product for TV and worth almost as much as the AFL deal with its extra hours, less primetime and 8 out of 9 games overlaped by another game. (not hard to spin it either way Dave).

2 games kick off Monday night at 7.30, 2 games kick off saturday at 7.30.

R11,12 and 13 where the 3 rounds with very little overlapping. those 3 rounds averaged about 3.1m or 500k a match. the prior 10 rounds averaged about 4.35m for 9 matches or about the same.[/quote]

The friday nights are the same for these rounds still only 1 match. We need to compare the Saturday and Sunday games I will do so im my next post.

Rounds 11,12 and 13 averaged about 432K per game for saturdays and sunday games.

The rest of the rounds which didn't have different games on Wednesday and Thursday and monday nights averaged about 3.5-3.6 million a round
take away Friday night games which average 1 million to 1.1 million per games and 7 games average about 2.5 million for 7 games
So thats an average of about 357 K per game for a regualar saturday or sunday game on a normal round, so thats a big difference in my book. Not exactly perfect but a rough statistical analysis.

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

With far more of the AFLs games outside prime-time.

..... another excuse to add to the growing pile in butthurt central
primetime ?
we have LESS FTA games d head
& we have only 1 game in prime time a week on FTA .... 7.30 on a Friday Night
so does the VFL

all the rest of ours are on pay TV
& a replay on sunday arvo aint prime time
the only one but but butting here ... is you

Your claim of more per minute is laughable and suggests three possible scenarios:

IT WAS YOUR ASSUMPTION LONGER TELECASTS ADDED VALUE TO YOUR RIGHTS

did they or not ? ... its a simple question .. were you wrong

The simple fact is we got more money

ah no
fact is ... we will most likely.. in fact almost certainly .. end up with more cash .... in a bigger overall deal ...at the completion of our components
something you lot said ... WAS IMPOSSIBLE , NOT FATHOMABLE , under any circumstances .. only 6 months ago
what happened ?

who would have known:

- you were so desperate to throw NZ in there?
- your management would have screwed your fans and teams by going for the most cash per minute instead of decent FTA coverage?

piesman2011 wrote:

Rounds 11,12 and 13 averaged about 432K per game for saturdays and sunday games.

The rest of the rounds which didn't have different games on Wednesday and Thursday and monday nights averaged about 3.5-3.6 million a round
take away Friday night games which average 1 million to 1.1 million per games and 7 games average about 2.5 million for 7 games
So thats an average of about 357 K per game for a regualar saturday or sunday game on a normal round, so thats a big difference in my book. Not exactly perfect but a rough statistical analysis.

The AFL have a history of blockbuster and ratings early in the season before slackening off for the second half. These matches were about halfway and they contained a Monday and Thursday night matches. I don't see Much Change.

pussycat wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Rounds 11,12 and 13 averaged about 432K per game for saturdays and sunday games.

The rest of the rounds which didn't have different games on Wednesday and Thursday and monday nights averaged about 3.5-3.6 million a round
take away Friday night games which average 1 million to 1.1 million per games and 7 games average about 2.5 million for 7 games
So thats an average of about 357 K per game for a regualar saturday or sunday game on a normal round, so thats a big difference in my book. Not exactly perfect but a rough statistical analysis.

The AFL have a history of blockbuster and ratings early in the season before slackening off for the second half. These matches were about halfway and they contained a Monday and Thursday night matches. I don't see Much Change.

Fair point with the Thursday and Monday night game during this time period.
How about we compare foxtel data during this 3 week period compared to the whole season.



AFL PTV over the 3 week period

NM V ADEL 232K
COLL V WCE 355K
WB V BL 162K
WB V PORT 208K
HAW V BL 206K
GC V NM 250K
GWS V RICH 228K
PORT V HAW 240K
GC V STK 191
RICH V FREO 222
Melbourne V GSW 103K
ESS V SYD 220K
FRE V ESS 229K
CARL vs GEE 244K
Mel V COL 210
WCE vs CARL 218
ADEL V STK 240
SYD V GEL 282

average 224K

Compare this with the average foxtel ratings for the AFL throughout the year.

Fox match average 2012: 181,316

sourced from BF poster the Wookie
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2 ... 02/page-66

So thats an increase of 43K on the average foxtel ratings (be even more of a difference if I could remove the 3 weeks from the rest of the season perhaps 45-48K difference). The only real issue is that 18 matches is not a huge sample so not the most statistically significient data.

Just did the maths

AFL Foxtel averages:
average for 3 weeks rounds 11, 12, 13: 224K
Average for rest of the year: 177K

Difference: 47K

27% increase. Wonder how much more the AFL would get from Monday night foxtel exclusive games?

Be a bit silly having 2 codes on a Monday night going head to head on pay tv.

Xman wrote:

who would have known:

- you were so desperate to throw NZ in there?
- your management would have screwed your fans and teams by going for the most cash per minute instead of decent FTA coverage

impossible ..... unfathomable ..... beyond the realms of possibility

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

who would have known:

- you were so desperate to throw NZ in there?
- your management would have screwed your fans and teams by going for the most cash per minute instead of decent FTA coverage

impossible ..... unfathomable ..... beyond the realms of possibility

and correct

Keeps complaining about the NRL on FTA TV yet the idiot doesn't watch it

Here's a clue, if you hate it, don't watch it and certainty don't complain about who or what is being shown. RL has it's deal and the VFL have theirs.

Why anyone who doesn't watch a sport would complain the punters are losing out is beyond me. What a fuckwit

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Be a bit silly having 2 codes on a Monday night going head to head on pay tv.

Fear. Smell the fear.

You know that if the AFL decided to go schedule weekly Monday Night Football matches it would hurt the nRL's ratings. The AFL could easily move the low rating Saturday early afternoon (Foxtel match) to Monday night and double its ratings at least.

Spewie who are you trying to convince? They tried Monday night football this year and said, afterwards, we wont be going back there in a hurry.

pussycat wrote:

Spewie who are you trying to convince? They tried Monday night football this year and said, afterwards, we wont be going back there in a hurry.

It rated well and Foxtel would be all over it if the AFL hinted they were going all out and scheduling weekly Monday night matches.

Stewie wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Be a bit silly having 2 codes on a Monday night going head to head on pay tv.

Fear. Smell the fear.

You know that if the AFL decided to go schedule weekly Monday Night Football matches it would hurt the nRL's ratings. The AFL could easily move the low rating Saturday early afternoon (Foxtel match) to Monday night and double its ratings at least.

it wouldn't really
no one north of the murray watches VFL when its on FTA .... even less would watch it on pay

our average 300K on a Monday Night ... wouldn't be scratched
we'd of course pummel the VFL in a head to head
goes without saying

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Be a bit silly having 2 codes on a Monday night going head to head on pay tv.

Fear. Smell the fear.

You know that if the AFL decided to go schedule weekly Monday Night Football matches it would hurt the nRL's ratings. The AFL could easily move the low rating Saturday early afternoon (Foxtel match) to Monday night and double its ratings at least.

it wouldn't really
no one north of the murray watches VFL when its on FTA .... even less would watch it on pay

our average 300K on a Monday Night ... wouldn't be scratched
we'd of course pummel the VFL in a head to head
goes without saying

You lost just about every Friday night head to head you imbecile, and that's despite having 2 games with the best ratings from each market added together! . Not to mentioned getting slaughtered in finals ratings. Monday Night AFL Football would have the nRL shitting themselves as they know the value of their product would shrink as they would no longer have Monday nights all to themselves.