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Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:32 pm
by Stewie
ParraEelsNRL wrote:Stewie wrote:Provide a fucking source for once Raiderdave or stfu you butthurt twat. AFL wins by 10 million.
Summer Vfl here we come
The only one's that seem to have butthurt are you Vfl boys
Rugby League, 2012 champions.
Why on earth would we be butthurt when stats show that the AFL defeated the nRL by 10 million?
AFL is and always will be king in this country. Australian Football for all Australians. =D>
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:02 am
by piesman2011
ParraEelsNRL wrote:Stewie wrote:Provide a fucking source for once Raiderdave or stfu you butthurt twat. AFL wins by 10 million.
Summer Vfl here we come
The only one's that seem to have butthurt are you Vfl boys
Rugby League, 2012 champions.
Your showing your butbutbutthurt over this one Dave. How many times do you need to post NRL wins again with no evidence. Even if you dont believe that the full data has been released. You need to wait for some evidence and quote it when it comes in to claim victory. At least the AFL boys have got some evidence to back them up.
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:41 am
by Drac
You're assuming - without evidence - that Origin figures aren't included in the totals, but for the sake or argument, i'll do the same. Here are the salient facts:
AFL is watched by more people than nRL. A league that has sold its soul to television with Monday night football, Sunday evening grand finals, friday double headers and no Saturday arvo footy.
AFL ratings grew significantly, nRL ratings were stagnant.
All this at a time in the AFL when two new teams have been introduced to create two un-even (borderline unwatchable) matches every week. I wonder what'll happen when these two teams are up to scratch in a few years and cellar dwellers like Melbourne, the WB and Port can get the draft picks they need to rebound?
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:34 am
by piesman2011
Drac wrote:You're assuming - without evidence - that Origin figures aren't included in the totals, but for the sake or argument, i'll do the same. Here are the salient facts:
AFL is watched by more people than nRL. A league that has sold its soul to television with Monday night football, Sunday evening grand finals, friday double headers and no Saturday arvo footy.
AFL ratings grew significantly, nRL ratings were stagnant.
All this at a time in the AFL when two new teams have been introduced to create two un-even (borderline unwatchable) matches every week. I wonder what'll happen when these two teams are up to scratch in a few years and cellar dwellers like Melbourne, the WB and Port can get the draft picks they need to rebound?
Good post. GC and GWS will only improve making all 9 games watchable rather then just 7.
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:49 am
by Stewie
This year we should see GC playing in some good matches, especially at home. I'd say 8 very watchable games a round already, like it used to be.
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:56 am
by pussycat
piesman2011 wrote:It is understood Channel Ten made a serious bid of $800 million for four games, all in prime time, nationally, on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday nights. This must have been a tempting offer, given Ten would be scheduling one more free-to-air game around Australia.
Presumably, any add-on by Fox Sports for the four games it would cover was less than $225million, otherwise it would have equalled the combined Nine/Fox Sports deal of $1.025 billion and been an attractive proposition because of superior national coverage
Read more:
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2CFIglKAE
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 24kp2.html
It as understood that Channel 10 made a serious offer = rumor.
They wernt involved in the negotiations so obviously they cant say with 100% accuracy, But they were reporting on what happend, one of several media sources. You refer to it as a rumour if you like, I guess some rumours carry a bit more weight then others.
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:00 pm
by Raiderdave
piesman2011 wrote:ParraEelsNRL wrote:Stewie wrote:Provide a fucking source for once Raiderdave or stfu you butthurt twat. AFL wins by 10 million.
Summer Vfl here we come
The only one's that seem to have butthurt are you Vfl boys
Rugby League, 2012 champions.
Your showing your butbutbutthurt over this one Dave. How many times do you need to post NRL wins again with no evidence. Even if you dont believe that the full data has been released. You need to wait for some evidence and quote it when it comes in to claim victory. At least the AFL boys have got some evidence to back them up.
again
you're replying to Parra & refering to me
do your eyes work ?
& back to your post
full data has been released , otherwise the article would have mentioned it hadn't
who said the NRL won
Rugby League won ... for the fourth year in a row
this article mentions the NRL's tally (113.9 million ) .. & there have been countless posts & links to the ratings for RL's rep games as well
they total 17 million
end of .. on who won

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:06 pm
by Raiderdave
Stewie wrote:This year we should see GC playing in some good matches, especially at home. I'd say 8 very watchable games a round already, like it used to be.
same players give or take from last years to next ... & we go from the worst quality comp in living memory to .... a great comp
FMD you are away with the pixies
there will be 6 shitbag teams in the VFL in 2013 ... seriously not up to the elite level , a few are state cup standard
the next 6 are a bit better
the next 6.... might pass muster
woeful woeful comp

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:10 pm
by pookus
Raiderdave wrote:piesman2011 wrote:
Your showing your butbutbutthurt over this one Dave. How many times do you need to post NRL wins again with no evidence. Even if you dont believe that the full data has been released. You need to wait for some evidence and quote it when it comes in to claim victory. At least the AFL boys have got some evidence to back them up.
again
you're replying to Parra & refering to me
do your eyes work ?
& back to your post
full data has been released , otherwise the article would have mentioned it hadn't
who said the NRL won
Rugby League won ... for the fourth year in a row
this article mentions the NRL's tally (113.9 million ) .. & there have been countless posts & links to the ratings for RL's rep games as well
they total 17 million
end of .. on who won

Many arguments have been settled by this article. AFL bigger than nrl on a weekly basis fact. Massive growth for AFL due to excellent deal fact. Minimal growth for nrl to stay the same for next give years fact. The cumulative numbers will come out in time but for now your butt must be screaming Dave lol. Won't be hard to work out the raiders free to air average next year. Lol
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:11 pm
by Raiderdave
You're assuming - without evidence - that Origin figures aren't included in the totals
you are a moron
it doesn't say they aren't included ?
if they were ... our figures would have dropped by 15 Million overall .... now that'd be news worthy wouldn't you say
here are the only salient facts to consider here
Rugby League .. most watched football code for the 4th year in a row

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:14 pm
by Raiderdave
pookus wrote:Raiderdave wrote:piesman2011 wrote:
Your showing your butbutbutthurt over this one Dave. How many times do you need to post NRL wins again with no evidence. Even if you dont believe that the full data has been released. You need to wait for some evidence and quote it when it comes in to claim victory. At least the AFL boys have got some evidence to back them up.
again
you're replying to Parra & refering to me
do your eyes work ?
& back to your post
full data has been released , otherwise the article would have mentioned it hadn't
who said the NRL won
Rugby League won ... for the fourth year in a row
this article mentions the NRL's tally (113.9 million ) .. & there have been countless posts & links to the ratings for RL's rep games as well
they total 17 million
end of .. on who won

Many arguments have been settled by this article. AFL bigger than nrl on a weekly basis fact. Massive growth for AFL due to excellent deal fact. Minimal growth for nrl to stay the same for next give years fact. The cumulative numbers will come out in time but for now your butt must be screaming Dave lol. Won't be hard to work out the raiders free to air average next year. Lol
poor old poohpuss ..... struggling like all the fumblers are
you're right
its settled plenty this article
with 11 extra games this year , simulcast games & extra regional areas counted .... yous still got done by RL

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:32 pm
by Raiderdave
Drac wrote:You're assuming - without evidence - that Origin figures aren't included in the totals, but for the sake or argument, i'll do the same. Here are the salient facts:
AFL is watched by more people than nRL. A league that has sold its soul to television with Monday night football, Sunday evening grand finals, friday double headers and no Saturday arvo footy.
AFL ratings grew significantly, nRL ratings were stagnant.
All this at a time in the AFL when two new teams have been introduced to create two un-even (borderline unwatchable) matches every week. I wonder what'll happen when these two teams are up to scratch in a few years and cellar dwellers like Melbourne, the WB and Port can get the draft picks they need to rebound?
ah d head .....
heres " evidence " indicating what we attracted audience wise in 2011 ... proving quite obviously the figures in this most recent article do not include any of our rep games
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-0 ... ague-games
Nine and Fox Sports will pay A$1.02 billion ($1.07 billion) to broadcast games over five years, the Australian Rugby League Commission said today. That compares to the A$1.25 billion that Seven West Media Ltd. (SWM), Foxtel and Telstra Corp. paid for rights to Australian Football League matches in April 2011.
The ARL Commission, which runs rugby league in Australia, said in a statement it signed the agreement following “several days of intense negotiations with representatives of all commercial television networks.” The deal is worth A$925 million in cash, with the balance to be made up in advertising packages worth A$100 million, Commission chairman John Grant said.
“It’s been a difficult, complex and at times stressful process,” Grant said at a televised news conference in Sydney. “For our game it is the greatest deal ever done.”
Rugby league is Australia’s most-watched winter sport, attracting a cumulative audience of 128 million in 2011, according to market researcher Oztam Pty. which compiles Australian TV ratings.
Channel Nine will retain State of Origin inter-state games and continue to broadcast three free-to-air National Rugby League matches each weekend, the commission said. Fox Sports will show five games across Saturday, Sunday and Monday, while both broadcasters will show Four Nations tournament matches.
To contact the reporter on this story: David Fickling in Sydney at
dfickling@bloomberg.net
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Stephanie Wong at
swong139@bloomberg.net
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:44 pm
by pussycat
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:AS if the ARU didn't have enough problems on its hands with disgruntled five-eighth Quade Cooper, now comes a report that shows viewers are turning off the game in droves.
Global sports research agency Repucom International has just finished compiling its 2012 Football Benchmarking Report, which compares figures from Australia's football codes - AFL, NRL, Super Rugby and the A-League - based on OzTAM ratings and AGB Nielsen audience research.
While AFL and the A-League were the big winners and the NRL remained steady, it was the alarming dip in fans watching the Super Rugby competition that should have the powerbrokers at ARU headquarters concerned.
Having drawn a cumulative audience of 8.8 million when the Queensland Reds won their first title in 2011, that figure slumped to 7.8 million this year when the Reds were the only team of five Australian franchises to make the finals.
Despite their inability to win back-to-back titles, the Reds were still the most popular franchise with 1.89 million viewers followed by the NSW Waratahs with 1.71 million and Melbourne Rebels with 1.33 million.
"Super Rugby had a disappointing season, no doubt on the back of sub-standard performances by the Australian franchises," Repucom International's Asia, Australia and New Zealand managing director, Lynne Anderson, said yesterday.
"Comparisons with the 2011 season were always going to be difficult, given the huge wave of success that saw the Reds take out the trophy."
The AFL announced its record $1.253 billion media rights deal last year and capitalised on a boom in subscription television broadcasts which were up from 19.3 million viewers in 2011 to 39.3 million this year - an increase of 101 per cent.
Although free-to-air viewers dropped from 94 million to 84 million this year, or a loss of 10.69 per cent, the massive increase in pay-TV watchers was enough to help the AFL record an increase of 8.59 per cent across the board.
Collingwood was the most watched club with 24.26 million viewers followed by Hawthorn with 22.30 million and premier Sydney with 19.83 million.
The NRL has also benefited from a lucrative $1.023bn media rights deal recently but showed only a marginal increase in viewers from 113.5 million to 113.9 million, or 0.37 per cent, this year.
Brisbane was the most popular team with 22.91 million viewers followed by the Bulldogs with 21.80 million and South Sydney with 19.75 million.
However, it is another test considered more accurate - which counts a viewer only once throughout the season - that shows the gap between AFL and NRL might not be as big as first thought: the gap between the two codes was only 128,000 viewers in favour of the AFL.
The other big winner was the A-League, which has also recently negotiated a $160m media rights deal. Figures show its viewing audience had jumped from 7.5 million last year to 9.5 million in 2012 - an increase of 26.72 per cent.
Brisbane Roar drew the most viewers with 2.44 million followed by Melbourne Victory with 2.34 million and Perth Glory with 2.06 million.
It is a figure that will climb higher next year with the addition of several star imports this season - most notably Italian superstar Alessandro Del Piero.
"The A League had a great year in 2011-12, producing the largest increase of all football codes with a 27 per cent increase in cumulative audiences," Anderson said.
"And this figure will be resoundingly beaten in the current season, with the Del Piero and Emile Heskey presence, especially producing substantial increases across all consumption metrics for the game."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/af ... 6525246762
Well there it is people. Victory to the AFL 123m to the NRL 113m, with Collingwood the most watched team at 24m

hmmmmmmm
Marcus .... have you noticed the term used here is ... NRL... not ... Rugby League
those figures are our figures .. without our rep games ... as they are NOT .. NRL
our 3 SOO's attracted 12 Million veiwers
our 2 internationals ... another 3 Million
our All Stars ... 1 Million
our City country ... 1 million
the game of Rugby League therefore attracted ... 131 Million TV veiwers in 2012 ... a clear .. & decisive win over VFL .. again
hence no trumpeting from VFL house .. about any ratings win this year

'Based on Oztam ratings.'

I wonder if they also take into account, in that newspaper article that Xman is quoting, that the AFL inflated there FTA ratings/viewers figures by 10-15%. :
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:31 pm
by Stewie
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:13 pm
by Raiderdave
and ............
RL 131 Million
vicky kicky .... 123 Million
hows them apples spewie ?
