Talking Footy

Like I said above the only state where you need to have foxtel to watch your team is Victoria. Every other state has all their home games on FTA. If thats not a lot better deal for FTA TV I dont know what is.

Bye everyone. I will see you all after Australia's premier football event.


Ps. XMan cut out that language. Your suppose to be setting an exampe

piesman2011 wrote:

Like I said above the only state where you need to have foxtel to watch your team is Victoria. Every other state has all their home games on FTA. If thats not a lot better deal for FTA TV I dont know what is.

As they still can this year despite foxtel's efforts. That just shows there interest or lack of it. The Broncos are in a similar boat, but I would bet they have twice the take up levels.

pussycat wrote:

Your link would'nt work, here's a couple that do. http://www.southerncrossaustereo.com.au ... verage.pdf

http://www.regionaltam.com.au/?page_id= ... spostcodes

No matter how you want to sugar coat it you said 4 games. 4 games is not far better than 3 .

They do have better Pay Tv deal 5 games to 4. hardly reason for the NRL to have 75% of the top games and the AFL less than 10%.

I told you why our subscription rates are better, only half your games a worth whatching.

Bs my link doesn't work! It's clear on oztam! it clearly shows the Goldcoast is included in metro FTA for brisbane.

What you showed is that the GC is also counted in regional ratings! thanks!

So the NRL last year had 5 live games on fox in HD and 3 on FTA in SD.

The AFL had 4 on fox which were the worst 4, and 4 on FTA which were the best games with 2 on HD.

And you're surprised that AFL fans didn't take up. Foxtel??

You're a f'ing idiot!

As I said, your link doesnt work, But it is common knowledge that Metro Tam covers just the 5 major cities and regional tam covers the rest, including Gold coast, which is counted by NNSW! In all borderlines areas there will be some overlapping. TV signals dont just cut off at the border. And while one area may count some of anothers area , vice versa will also occur. But if you want to go on believing Metro Tam counts Gold Coast feel free to do so.

Ps. great game last night, fantastic ratings

How many games this year do the Broncos have on FTA?? You are right in that it is probabaly most of them but not all of them. Having said that the Broncos is just one team (highly supported but stil just one team). The AFL has 8 teams which are shown always on FTA into their respective local markets.
As for the goldcoast being zoned as part of regional NSW or Brisbane. I believe that you are both correct. This is why some people claim that certain areas are counted twice towards the NRL total viewers. I have no link but I have read it before. I understand if you dont trust my word.

piesman2011 wrote:

How many games this year do the Broncos have on FTA?? You are right in that it is probabaly most of them but not all of them. Having said that the Broncos is just one team (highly supported but stil just one team). The AFL has 8 teams which are shown always on FTA into their respective local markets.
As for the goldcoast being zoned as part of regional NSW or Brisbane. I believe that you are both correct. This is why some people claim that certain areas are counted twice towards the NRL total viewers. I have no link but I have read it before. I understand if you dont trust my word.

Correct. Oztam show the metro catchment and Brisbane includes the GC. Pussycat says my link doesn't work but it does for me. Maybe it's my iPad. Anyway, go to oztam, search metro ratings maps and look at the area for Brisbane. It definitely includes GC

Funny thing is regional tam include them too!

pussycat wrote:

pussycat wrote:

Your link would'nt work, here's a couple that do. http://www.southerncrossaustereo.com.au ... verage.pdf

http://www.regionaltam.com.au/?page_id= ... spostcodes

No matter how you want to sugar coat it you said 4 games. 4 games is not far better than 3 .

They do have better Pay Tv deal 5 games to 4. hardly reason for the NRL to have 75% of the top games and the AFL less than 10%.

I told you why our subscription rates are better, only half your games a worth whatching.

Bs my link doesn't work! It's clear on oztam! it clearly shows the Goldcoast is included in metro FTA for brisbane.

What you showed is that the GC is also counted in regional ratings! thanks!

So the NRL last year had 5 live games on fox in HD and 3 on FTA in SD.

The AFL had 4 on fox which were the worst 4, and 4 on FTA which were the best games with 2 on HD.

And you're surprised that AFL fans didn't take up. Foxtel??

You're a f'ing idiot!

As I said, your link doesnt work, But it is common knowledge that Metro Tam covers just the 5 major cities and regional tam covers the rest, including Gold coast, which is counted by NNSW! In all borderlines areas there will be some overlapping. TV signals dont just cut off at the border. And while one area may count some of anothers area , vice versa will also occur. But if you want to go on believing Metro Tam counts Gold Coast feel free to do so.

Ps. great game last night, fantastic ratings

Go and ask the Lu guys dope! GC is counted for metro and included in Brisbane. They will confirm it too, just like they recently did on the tv rights thread.

As for your crap about the foxtel subscriptions being lower because the game is less interesting, what kind of fool are you? If it was less interesting why are the attendences over double the NRL?

Even I was wrong once, at least I thought I was. As it turned out I was right. So technically, i guess, i was wrong.


What about the weekend?, what was the excuse? no overlapping games and not 1 rating high enough to make the list of top matches. No higher than usual. That excuse is stale! come up with a new one.

6 games and 240K the highest

Another week without any overlapping matches this week. What will your excuse be?


I notice another failure Thursday night. It's been almost two weeks since you had a PTV game above 250. Its called lack of interest.

Looked at the games this weekend. 3-4 games on fox all of them are bad games. GC V .... GWS V ....., Brisbane V ..... and Port V Bulldogs. I still expect them all to rate in the low to mid 200's. Because there is no overlap. Next week the AFL will have a few games on fox that will rate over 300K. As teams like GC and GWS improve over the next fe years I expect the ratings on fox to rise by a lot.

piesman2011 wrote:

Looked at the games this weekend. 3-4 games on fox all of them are bad games. GC V .... GWS V ....., Brisbane V ..... and Port V Bulldogs. I still expect them all to rate in the low to mid 200's. Because there is no overlap. Next week the AFL will have a few games on fox that will rate over 300K. As teams like GC and GWS improve over the next fe years I expect the ratings on fox to rise by a lot.

Bad games? is that an admission that your comp is lop sided?

In our competion , it was Origin week and the best players sat out. The match between Cron and GCst was without the seven best players.

pussycat wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Looked at the games this weekend. 3-4 games on fox all of them are bad games. GC V .... GWS V ....., Brisbane V ..... and Port V Bulldogs. I still expect them all to rate in the low to mid 200's. Because there is no overlap. Next week the AFL will have a few games on fox that will rate over 300K. As teams like GC and GWS improve over the next fe years I expect the ratings on fox to rise by a lot.

Bad games? is that an admission that your comp is lop sided?

In our competion , it was Origin week and the best players sat out. The match between Cron and GCst was without the seven best players.

It's an admission that games involving bottom sides are less interesting. It happens in every sport including yours. While the AFL may have a few more of those teams thatn normal this year they also have far more teams in contention for the GF and the top 4 than the NRL

pussycat wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Looked at the games this weekend. 3-4 games on fox all of them are bad games. GC V .... GWS V ....., Brisbane V ..... and Port V Bulldogs. I still expect them all to rate in the low to mid 200's. Because there is no overlap. Next week the AFL will have a few games on fox that will rate over 300K. As teams like GC and GWS improve over the next fe years I expect the ratings on fox to rise by a lot.

Bad games? is that an admission that your comp is lop sided?

In our competion , it was Origin week and the best players sat out. The match between Cron and GCst was without the seven best players.

I dont need to spin information to suit my case. I believe that we have 3 very weak teams in the competition at the moment. This wont be the case forever. It is what happened when the draft was compromised by the introduction of GWS and GC. RL will probabaly have a similar situation with two new clubs comming into the comp in 2015, although many will say otherwise, I cant see it being any other way unless they import a lot of overseas talent. The last team to be introduced into the competiton was Melbourne 1998?? They got a good team because they took the players from two defunct teams. This wont be the case next time round. Average ratings will probabaly fall when it happens. It doesn't really mean much it just takes time for new clubs to develop, when you are relying on local talent.

What do you mean you dont have to put a spin on information? Xman and yourself have done nothing but make excuses for the short comings of the AFL.

The second Brisbane side will be strong first up and I wouldn't be surprised I they were to come into the comp next year. The G.Cst were the last expansion side, and they made the semi's in there 1st or 2nd year and by the third year they made the final. Perth may not be as strong first up, but Melboure did get to GF in there 2nd year. There main players are mostly Queenslanders. Qld & to a lesser extent NSW both have strong second tier competitions.

Due to a lack of finances, in days gone by, we've lost a lot of top players to England & rugby . Now, that we are financial, the best ones will comeback , Union in Australia will have the eyes picked out of it. There also Many New zealanders & Islanders - excellent athletes looking for a start.

World dominations the aim

pussycat wrote:

What do you mean you dont have to put a spin on information? Xman and yourself have done nothing but make excuses for the short comings of the AFL.

The second Brisbane side will be strong first up and I wouldn't be surprised if a second Brisbane team come in next year. The G.Cst made the semi's in there 1st or 2nd year and the third year they made the final. Perth may not be as strong first up, but Melboure did get to GF in there 2nd year. There main players are mostly Queenslanders. Qld & to a lesser extent NSW both have strong second tier competitions.

Short comings? All you've got is payTV and that is purely dictated by subscription rates which everyone knows are miles ahead in NSW.

The AFL have over double the crowds, revenue and media interest. They're streaks ahead in the total tv ratings. What exactly are the AFL short in?

Xman wrote:

pussycat wrote:

What do you mean you dont have to put a spin on information? Xman and yourself have done nothing but make excuses for the short comings of the AFL.

The second Brisbane side will be strong first up and I wouldn't be surprised if a second Brisbane team come in next year. The G.Cst made the semi's in there 1st or 2nd year and the third year they made the final. Perth may not be as strong first up, but Melboure did get to GF in there 2nd year. There main players are mostly Queenslanders. Qld & to a lesser extent NSW both have strong second tier competitions.

Short comings? All you've got is payTV and that is purely dictated by subscription rates which everyone knows are miles ahead in NSW.

The AFL have over double the crowds, revenue and media interest. They're streaks ahead in the total tv ratings. What exactly are the AFL short in?

You might have us with crowds.

Revnue - Not for long.

News Ltd is nearabout the biggest media company in the world. The back pages of its papers are full of league.

Your subscription rates are behind - due to a lack of interest.