Talking Footy

pussycat wrote:

You might say that but I would'nt. The AFL doesn't like to admit the NRL avalanche exist for obvious resaons - The home supporters of Newcastle, Woolongong, Canberra. G Coast and Rockhampton are all ignored by the Metro Markets. Is it any wonder there such a large gap between the two codes in subsciption TV.

NZ home audience gets ignored by everybody.

The large gap in payTV subscriptions is because the AFL have a far better FTA agreement and have so for years. I only got foxtel this year. Why would I bother in previous years? There were 4 games on FTA and only 3 on fox, and these were the worst matches.

The Goldcoast is included in the Brisbane metro ratings.

The fact is the AFL is far more popular in NSW and Qld than the NRL is in Vic SA WA Tas, and the ratings prove it. The top placed storm only managed 30k for a live Friday night game from a combined audience of Mel Adel Perth, while the bottom placed suns managed 31k from Brisbane GC alone and on Saturday arvo!

RL in terms of the product of the NRL is built for TV. Every game is shown in its own timeslot with no overlap. The game itself goes for 80 minutes with little advertising. There is no suprise that the game rates well. with little advertising interuptions. The product of AFL does similar ratings, with a much longer game which can fit into it, a lot more advertising. To say that NRL rates better on PTV, in one sense is true (game by game), however in terms of timeslots the AFL again rates very similar to NRL. With no overlap even with some poor games, eg power V Hawkes (thrashing), the AFL rated about the same as the NRL on PTV despite the game being televised on FTA TV into home markets. For the next two weeks you will see similar ratings on PTV between the AFL and the NRL despite teams like GWS and Goldcoast suns getting thrashed.

Far Better???, 4 FTA matches instread of 3 - none live before this year. Cut out the exuses - :LACK OF INTEREST is the real reason. Fox had 4 AFL matches. Of the 5 the NRL had c9, had the first 2 picks.



Weve all seen the swans in action these past near 30 years , we know just how popular AFL is in Sydney.

As far as the Gold coast goes Im pretty sure your wrong NNSW covers them.

What ratings are we talking about? real one or pretend ones? because the AFL do rule if were talking about the ones in your head

Not this longer game crap again! while ever it suits you then Wa Wa Wa 'our games overlap' Wa Wa Wa 'it doesnt give a fair indication' Wa Wa Wa! get over it. I told you the fairest way to pick out which code has the most fans. Pick a match that has your most viewers and compare. All viewers are attracted and you cant use overlap as an excuse.

Another difference between our codes is we dont have anywere near as many poor games - far more consistecy.


PS. ease off on the drugs

pussycat wrote:

Far Better???, 4 FTA matches instread of 3 - none live before this year. Cut out the exuses - :LACK OF INTEREST is the real reason. Fox had 4 AFL matches. Of the 5 the NRL had c9, had the first 2 picks.



Weve all seen the swans in action these past near 30 years , we know just how popular AFL is in Sydney.

As far as the Gold coast goes Im pretty sure your wrong NNSW covers them.

What ratings are we talking about? real one or pretend ones? because the AFL do rule if were talking about the ones in your head

Not this longer game crap again! while ever it suits you then Wa Wa Wa 'our games overlap' Wa Wa Wa 'it doesnt give a fair indication' Wa Wa Wa! get over it. I told you the fairest way to pick out which code has the most fans. Pick a match that has your most viewers and compare. All viewers are attracted and you cant use overlap as an excuse.

Another difference between our codes is we dont have anywere near as many poor games - far more consistecy.


PS. ease off on the drugs

What are you on about. The AFL have always had a better FTA deal and that's why foxtel never appealed to AFL fans. Combine that with the fact the 4 best matches were shown on FTA and the worst games on foxtel and that's the entire reason subscription rates were so poor in AFL states. It also the reason they are high in RL states because it's the reverse.

Don't give me this shite about AFL not being popular! we all know they win everything, crowds, tv ratings, everything.

Goldcoast is definately covered by Brisbane metro. El diablo even posted the link in the tv rights thread on Lu.

And don't give us this crap about overlapping games being unfair. Your code does it on Friday night, the best rating session of the weekend. Without it the NRL doesn't compete at all.

4FTA Games is not far better than 3! Stop with the excuses ! as I said lack of interest in a dull and very boring game.

You admt it yourself, only half the games in your comp are worth watching.

I suggest you have a look at Oztams regional maps.

overlapping games???? thats your excuse, though it is crap!

pussycat wrote:

4FTA Games is not far better than 3! Stop with the excuses ! as I said lack of interest in a dull and very boring game.

You admt it yourself, only half the games in your comp are worth watching.

I suggest you have a look at Oztams regional maps.

overlapping games???? thats your excuse, though it is crap!

Gold coast is part of Brisbane for metro counting!
http://www.oztam.com.au/documents/other ... 151011.pdf

A FTA game on Friday, 2 on Saturday, and one on Sunday is far better than 2 on Friday night and one Sunday. The NrL also had a better payTV schedule than the AFL. No wonder subscription rates are different.

Don't give me this shit about the AFL being a boring game. It craps all over the NrL on Tv and at the ground this year!

piesman2011 wrote:

RL in terms of the product of the NRL is built for TV. Every game is shown in its own timeslot with no overlap. The game itself goes for 80 minutes with little advertising. There is no suprise that the game rates well. with little advertising interuptions. The product of AFL does similar ratings, with a much longer game which can fit into it, a lot more advertising. To say that NRL rates better on PTV, in one sense is true (game by game), however in terms of timeslots the AFL again rates very similar to NRL. With no overlap even with some poor games, eg power V Hawkes (thrashing), the AFL rated about the same as the NRL on PTV despite the game being televised on FTA TV into home markets. For the next two weeks you will see similar ratings on PTV between the AFL and the NRL despite teams like GWS and Goldcoast suns getting thrashed.

As you say the NRL has less advertising. But as shown, the FTA TV networks makes less than 25% in advertising revenue from the NRL. Thats despite the fact that the AFL has 4 matches, not 3, on FTA TV.

Yes, could'nt agree more. CONSISTENCY-CONSISTECY-CONSISTENCY, and then Origin blows them away

the AFL is on PTV, your kidding yourself if you think otherwise. And yes, maybe it is due to the lack of take up, but that stem from lack of interest, Lack of interest in a competition where only half the games are worth whatching each week.

pussycat wrote:

4FTA Games is not far better than 3! Stop with the excuses ! as I said lack of interest in a dull and very boring game.

You admt it yourself, only half the games in your comp are worth watching.

I suggest you have a look at Oztams regional maps.

overlapping games???? thats your excuse, though it is crap!

Saying that AFL is boring is purely subjective, however I will cop it on the chin. To say that there is a lack of interest in a game that draws almost record average attendences in a country of 20 million, and excellent ratings is ridiculous. As to overlapping games: How can I watch two games live when they are on at the same time. This a a valid point wether you see it or not.

pussycat wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

RL in terms of the product of the NRL is built for TV. Every game is shown in its own timeslot with no overlap. The game itself goes for 80 minutes with little advertising. There is no suprise that the game rates well. with little advertising interuptions. The product of AFL does similar ratings, with a much longer game which can fit into it, a lot more advertising. To say that NRL rates better on PTV, in one sense is true (game by game), however in terms of timeslots the AFL again rates very similar to NRL. With no overlap even with some poor games, eg power V Hawkes (thrashing), the AFL rated about the same as the NRL on PTV despite the game being televised on FTA TV into home markets. For the next two weeks you will see similar ratings on PTV between the AFL and the NRL despite teams like GWS and Goldcoast suns getting thrashed.

As you say the NRL has less advertising. But as shown, the FTA TV networks makes less than 25% in advertising revenue from the NRL. Thats despite the fact that the AFL has 4 matches, not 3, on FTA TV.

Yes, could'nt agree more. CONSISTENCY-CONSISTECY-CONSISTENCY, and then Origin blows them away

the AFL is on PTV, your kidding yourself if you think otherwise. And yes, maybe it is due to the lack of take up, but that stem from lack of interest, Lack of interest in a competition where only half the games are worth whatching each week.

It's not lack of interest, it's lack of value! Which AFL fans were going to pay for foxtel for the 4 worst AFL games?

This year the scheduling has improved but the FTa schedule is still good. In fact AFL is better on FTA in NRL states that the NRL is!

Another factor in PTV is that if you ive in WA, SA, NSW or Qld and you barack for a local team, your team is always on FTA TV. Why would you need PTV When all of your teams games are on FTA and you get 3-4 other games to watch. There is no time zone which is not covered. Friday night FTA, Sat Afternoon FTA game, Sat Night FTA game and Sunday FTA game all have games on FTA.

If the AFL ever sell out (for big $$) the FTA local games in SA and WA and have a lot of them on PTV, then the subscription rates for Foxtel will go up a lot more in WA and SA.

pussycat wrote:

4FTA Games is not far better than 3! Stop with the excuses ! as I said lack of interest in a dull and very boring game.

You admt it yourself, only half the games in your comp are worth watching.

I suggest you have a look at Oztams regional maps.

overlapping games???? thats your excuse, though it is crap!

However you want to put it,however you want to spin it the truth is more people watch AFL than league.More people pay for the privilege and when you realise that the reason any of this exists is revenue,moolah, kanga,cash you have to come up with the realisation you are a long way behind.Nothing wrong with being pepsi lots of people like it.It just aint Coke.So enjoy the game tonight it,s the best youve got and well enjoy the fact that why this three ring circus thrives your competition will be diluted second rate crap.Im sure youll all be up there cheering for some biff.lol

Xman wrote:

pussycat wrote:

4FTA Games is not far better than 3! Stop with the excuses ! as I said lack of interest in a dull and very boring game.

You admt it yourself, only half the games in your comp are worth watching.

I suggest you have a look at Oztams regional maps.

overlapping games???? thats your excuse, though it is crap!

Gold coast is part of Brisbane for metro counting!
http://www.oztam.com.au/documents/other ... 151011.pdf

A FTA game on Friday, 2 on Saturday, and one on Sunday is far better than 2 on Friday night and one Sunday. The NrL also had a better payTV schedule than the AFL. No wonder subscription rates are different.

Don't give me this **** about the AFL being a boring game. It craps all over the NrL on Tv and at the ground this year!

Your link would'nt work, here's a couple that do. http://www.southerncrossaustereo.com.au ... verage.pdf

http://www.regionaltam.com.au/?page_id= ... spostcodes

No matter how you want to sugar coat it you said 4 games. 4 games is not far better than 3 .

They do have better Pay Tv deal 5 games to 4. hardly reason for the NRL to have 75% of the top games and the AFL less than 10%.

I told you why our subscription rates are better, only half your games a worth whatching.

pussycat wrote:

Xman wrote:

pussycat wrote:

4FTA Games is not far better than 3! Stop with the excuses ! as I said lack of interest in a dull and very boring game.

You admt it yourself, only half the games in your comp are worth watching.

I suggest you have a look at Oztams regional maps.

overlapping games???? thats your excuse, though it is crap!

Gold coast is part of Brisbane for metro counting!
http://www.oztam.com.au/documents/other ... 151011.pdf

A FTA game on Friday, 2 on Saturday, and one on Sunday is far better than 2 on Friday night and one Sunday. The NrL also had a better payTV schedule than the AFL. No wonder subscription rates are different.

Don't give me this **** about the AFL being a boring game. It craps all over the NrL on Tv and at the ground this year!

Your link would'nt work, here's a couple that do. http://www.southerncrossaustereo.com.au ... verage.pdf

http://www.regionaltam.com.au/?page_id= ... spostcodes

No matter how you want to sugar coat it you said 4 games. 4 games is not far better than 3 .

They do have better Pay Tv deal 5 games to 4. hardly reason for the NRL to have 75% of the top games and the AFL less than 10%.

I told you why our subscription rates are better, only half your games a worth whatching.

What are you on about until this year you could not watch an AFL game live,ever.The only games Fox showed were the 4 worst with only one exclusive time slot being Sunday twilight.Noone who supports AFL got fox for the footy simply it wasnt worth it.AFL is based around the spectator timeslots were manafactured so people could go.That is why our game in terms of attendances is a world leader.You sold your game to the networks.The only way you can watch league on a saturday is by having fox.This is there trump card and why they are unwilling to part with it.The massive uptake in AFL viewership is simply because it is now live.However you spin it more people watch AFL over the 2 formats FACT.

pussycat wrote:

Xman wrote:

pussycat wrote:

4FTA Games is not far better than 3! Stop with the excuses ! as I said lack of interest in a dull and very boring game.

You admt it yourself, only half the games in your comp are worth watching.

I suggest you have a look at Oztams regional maps.

overlapping games???? thats your excuse, though it is crap!

Gold coast is part of Brisbane for metro counting!
http://www.oztam.com.au/documents/other ... 151011.pdf

A FTA game on Friday, 2 on Saturday, and one on Sunday is far better than 2 on Friday night and one Sunday. The NrL also had a better payTV schedule than the AFL. No wonder subscription rates are different.

Don't give me this **** about the AFL being a boring game. It craps all over the NrL on Tv and at the ground this year!

Your link would'nt work, here's a couple that do. http://www.southerncrossaustereo.com.au ... verage.pdf

http://www.regionaltam.com.au/?page_id= ... spostcodes

No matter how you want to sugar coat it you said 4 games. 4 games is not far better than 3 .

They do have better Pay Tv deal 5 games to 4. hardly reason for the NRL to have 75% of the top games and the AFL less than 10%.

I told you why our subscription rates are better, only half your games a worth whatching.

Bs my link doesn't work! It's clear on oztam! it clearly shows the Goldcoast is included in metro FTA for brisbane.

What you showed is that the GC is also counted in regional ratings! thanks!

So the NRL last year had 5 live games on fox in HD and 3 on FTA in SD.

The AFL had 4 on fox which were the worst 4, and 4 on FTA which were the best games with 2 on HD.

And you're surprised that AFL fans didn't take up. Foxtel??

You're a f'ing idiot!