still trying to deflect and refusing to acknowledge that GWS are financially similar to over half of the NRL clubs of football related incomeazif wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:28 pmmakingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:24 pmsomewhat a little unsettled there Terrence?Terry wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:49 pm
Wacky 'ol mate, you would have to know the intimate workings and contents of every clubs financial reports to compare them pal. They are all prepared differently and have their own nuances and mysteries and black holes. Nothing against your undoubted intellect but I don't think you are equipped for this task pal.
Rest assured though, the Ginats only remain a going concern at the whim of fumblehouse who contribute the bulk of their 'revenue' every single year. As I have repeatedly stated.......spending $24M over 13 years on memberships and merch for a $100k profit ain't good business pal.
Have a great day Wacky and wack on pal.
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like the grants 38K..... imaginary ......members ?
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Melbourne Storm with 2 sets of books. They have form with that too lolWookieReturns wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:10 pm
Storms annual reports dont contain anything except membership revenue and a grant from their parent company, Valimanda. No good for this.
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NRL clubs don't lose 8 million a year every year .... most don't lose anything & many make.... 8 million a yearmakingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:33 pmstill trying to deflect and refusing to acknowledge that GWS are financially similar to over half of the NRL clubs of football related incomeazif wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:28 pmmakingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:24 pm
somewhat a little unsettled there Terrence?
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You truly are a fool beatup. Two can play at that game pal. Remember Carlton? One million dollar fine for salary cap breaches? Fumblehouse said they "were guilty of deliberate, elaborate and sophisticated breaches of the salary cap...."Beaussie wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:40 amMelbourne Storm with 2 sets of books. They have form with that too lolWookieReturns wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:10 pm
Storms annual reports dont contain anything except membership revenue and a grant from their parent company, Valimanda. No good for this.
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Got anything beatup? Remember this pal? No? Why am I not surprised.
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so when are they being run out of town by the Rebels again ?Beaussie wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:40 amMelbourne Storm with 2 sets of books. They have form with that too lolWookieReturns wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:10 pm
Storms annual reports dont contain anything except membership revenue and a grant from their parent company, Valimanda. No good for this.
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Remember when the storm got done for cooking the books also, It appears nothing has changed.only have missed the finals 3 times in nearly 30 years and that is including the time they were penalised for cooking the books.Terry wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:59 amYou truly are a fool beatup. Two can play at that game pal. Remember Carlton? One million dollar fine for salary cap breaches? Fumblehouse said they "were guilty of deliberate, elaborate and sophisticated breaches of the salary cap...."Beaussie wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:40 amMelbourne Storm with 2 sets of books. They have form with that too lolWookieReturns wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:10 pm
Storms annual reports dont contain anything except membership revenue and a grant from their parent company, Valimanda. No good for this.
Dodgy
Got anything beatup? Remember this pal? No? Why am I not surprised.
What other under the table deals have they got going on
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the Storm did what racistball ... allows.. mandates ....its expansion teams do, spend considerably more then everyone else on players .... so they can be successful on field & make everyone think expansion is working .. well their dopey brain washed fans anywaymakingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:49 amRemember when the storm got done for cooking the books also, It appears nothing has changed.only have missed the finals 3 times in nearly 30 years and that is including the time they were penalised for cooking the books.Terry wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:59 amYou truly are a fool beatup. Two can play at that game pal. Remember Carlton? One million dollar fine for salary cap breaches? Fumblehouse said they "were guilty of deliberate, elaborate and sophisticated breaches of the salary cap...."Beaussie wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:40 am
Melbourne Storm with 2 sets of books. They have form with that too lol
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Got anything beatup? Remember this pal? No? Why am I not surprised.
What other under the table deals have they got going on
but
the NRL is not a fabricated , manipulated competition .... its clubs are all equal regardless of where they're from & they WILL only spend the allowed amount in the salary cap.
All the storm did is pretty much what the grants , thuns wions & swines have done & stil do , since day dot .... but the Storm were severely punished
premierships taken off them , 1.2 million in fines .. players removed.... the NRL went nuclear
you will NOT cheat!!
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Melbourne Storm = worst case of cheating/rorting ever in Australian sport history.makingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:49 amRemember when the storm got done for cooking the books also, It appears nothing has changed.only have missed the finals 3 times in nearly 30 years and that is including the time they were penalised for cooking the books.Beaussie wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:40 am
Melbourne Storm with 2 sets of books. They have form with that too lol
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What other under the table deals have they got going on
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Beaussie wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:23 amMelbourne Storm = worst case of cheating/rorting ever in Australian sport history.makingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:49 amRemember when the storm got done for cooking the books also, It appears nothing has changed.only have missed the finals 3 times in nearly 30 years and that is including the time they were penalised for cooking the books.Beaussie wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:40 am
Melbourne Storm with 2 sets of books. They have form with that too lol
Dodgy
What other under the table deals have they got going on
Still secretive and dodgy as fuck too.
so have they been run out of town yet by the Rebels ?












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yep! finishing lower than 6th on the ladder no more than 3 times, thats including the time they were disqualified for a year for cooking the books in 27 years. if thats cooking things post V Landys levels!Beaussie wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:23 amMelbourne Storm = worst case of cheating/rorting ever in Australian sport history.makingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:49 amRemember when the storm got done for cooking the books also, It appears nothing has changed.only have missed the finals 3 times in nearly 30 years and that is including the time they were penalised for cooking the books.Beaussie wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:40 am
Melbourne Storm with 2 sets of books. They have form with that too lol
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What other under the table deals have they got going on
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Wow! The level of research you do on Rugby League is very impressive Wacko. You must truly love the game pal. It must be so time consuming for ya lololol.makingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:00 pmyep! finishing lower than 6th on the ladder no more than 3 times, thats including the time they were disqualified for a year for cooking the books in 27 years. if thats cooking things post V Landys levels!Beaussie wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:23 amMelbourne Storm = worst case of cheating/rorting ever in Australian sport history.makingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:49 am
Remember when the storm got done for cooking the books also, It appears nothing has changed.only have missed the finals 3 times in nearly 30 years and that is including the time they were penalised for cooking the books.
What other under the table deals have they got going on
Still secretive and dodgy as fuck too.
By the way can you decipher this comment for me, "....they were disqualified for a year for cooking the books in 27 years." What is this book they cooked? I mean who cooks books Wacko? And did they cook the same book for 27 years? Or did they cook a different book every year for 27 years? So many questions. So few coherent answers.
Please get onto your Rugby League research page Wacko and get onto it pal. You're doing a great service to the greatest game of all.
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the book would be far to much for you to read Terrence! as posting basic numbers and facts seem to much and seems to trigger emotions and conspiraciesTerry wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:23 pmWow! The level of research you do on Rugby League is very impressive Wacko. You must truly love the game pal. It must be so time consuming for ya lololol.makingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:00 pmyep! finishing lower than 6th on the ladder no more than 3 times, thats including the time they were disqualified for a year for cooking the books in 27 years. if thats cooking things post V Landys levels!Beaussie wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:23 am
Melbourne Storm = worst case of cheating/rorting ever in Australian sport history.
Still secretive and dodgy as fuck too.
By the way can you decipher this comment for me, "....they were disqualified for a year for cooking the books in 27 years." What is this book they cooked? I mean who cooks books Wacko? And did they cook the same book for 27 years? Or did they cook a different book every year for 27 years? So many questions. So few coherent answers.
Please get onto your Rugby League research page Wacko and get onto it pal. You're doing a great service to the greatest game of all.
for a team to finish in the top 6 for 27 years in a row and still not attract any or little local talent are both very questionable! throw in cooking the books using mult accounts.its almost like the NRL are just desperate to make a team work in Melbourne.
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You're incredible Wacko. I had no idea the Storm finished in the top 6 for 27 years in a row. Thanks for that deep dive into Rugby League history pal. Your interest and research into the great game is second to none.makingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:31 pmthe book would be far to much for you to read Terrence! as posting basic numbers and facts seem to much and seems to trigger emotions and conspiraciesTerry wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:23 pmWow! The level of research you do on Rugby League is very impressive Wacko. You must truly love the game pal. It must be so time consuming for ya lololol.makingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:00 pm
yep! finishing lower than 6th on the ladder no more than 3 times, thats including the time they were disqualified for a year for cooking the books in 27 years. if thats cooking things post V Landys levels!
By the way can you decipher this comment for me, "....they were disqualified for a year for cooking the books in 27 years." What is this book they cooked? I mean who cooks books Wacko? And did they cook the same book for 27 years? Or did they cook a different book every year for 27 years? So many questions. So few coherent answers.
Please get onto your Rugby League research page Wacko and get onto it pal. You're doing a great service to the greatest game of all.
for a team to finish in the top 6 for 27 years in a row and still not attract any or little local talent are both very questionable! throw in cooking the books using mult accounts.its almost like the NRL are just desperate to make a team work in Melbourne.
I''m not so sure about your claims of book cooking though pal. I mean why would one cook a book Wacko? It wouldn't taste very good would it pal. Maybe cooked books are your diet ya poor buggar. Sad if so.
If you and mamma Wacko need a hand PM me pal. I'm here for ya and can lend ya a bob or two.
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amazing some of the pub ammo you learn from an afternoon at the pub and after checking it out to be true!Terry wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:34 pmYou're incredible Wacko. I had no idea the Storm finished in the top 6 for 27 years in a row. Thanks for that deep dive into Rugby League history pal. Your interest and research into the great game is second to none.makingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:31 pmthe book would be far to much for you to read Terrence! as posting basic numbers and facts seem to much and seems to trigger emotions and conspiraciesTerry wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:23 pm
Wow! The level of research you do on Rugby League is very impressive Wacko. You must truly love the game pal. It must be so time consuming for ya lololol.
By the way can you decipher this comment for me, "....they were disqualified for a year for cooking the books in 27 years." What is this book they cooked? I mean who cooks books Wacko? And did they cook the same book for 27 years? Or did they cook a different book every year for 27 years? So many questions. So few coherent answers.
Please get onto your Rugby League research page Wacko and get onto it pal. You're doing a great service to the greatest game of all.
for a team to finish in the top 6 for 27 years in a row and still not attract any or little local talent are both very questionable! throw in cooking the books using mult accounts.its almost like the NRL are just desperate to make a team work in Melbourne.
I''m not so sure about your claims of book cooking though pal. I mean why would one cook a book Wacko? It wouldn't taste very good would it pal. Maybe cooked books are your diet ya poor buggar. Sad if so.
If you and mamma Wacko need a hand PM me pal. I'm here for ya and can lend ya a bob or two.
given it would have to be one of the most successful runs in history of modern teams and Storm have a history of cooking the books and still have 2 sets of books one that we see and other we dont get to see, would only raise levels of interest
given that you folk have troubles in counting and understanding numbers its understandable your levels of denials
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The Biggest Salary Cap Penalties of All Time
With the penalties handed down to Parramatta in the National Rugby League earlier this year, I’ve laid out a ranking of the top penalties for salary cap breaches in Australian sport.
1. The Melbourne Storm (NRL 2010)
Unquestionably the king of salary cap penalties, the Melbourne Storm were heavily penalised after the National Rugby League uncovered breaches estimated to be in excess of $1.7million over five years, around $400,000 in 2009 and with a projected breach of $700,000 in 2010. The League also found that the Storm had kept a dual contract system, as well as secret side letters detailing extra payments that were apparently found in the safe of the clubs chief executive.
The Club was stripped of its 2008 and 2009 premierships (these were not awarded to the opposition clubs either), prevented from earning any competition points in 2010, forced to repay 1.1 million in prize money and fined another $500,000.
2. Parramatta Eels (NRL 2016)
In March 2016, it was revealed that the Eels had openly been discussing ways to avoid to subvert the salary cap at board level, prompting a full investigation by the National Rugby League, which later found the club had engaged in systematic cheating of the cap by offering additional payments totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars to players and securing secret third party payments.
The Club was penalised the maximum fine of $1,000,000 (the NRL had earlier offered to suspend $250,000 of the fine, but that changed when it was revealed that planning to undermine the cap had continued up until February this year), stripped of 12 competition points, stripped of its Auckland Nines win at the start of the year, and five officials were deregistered by the league. In addition, the clubs favourable points for and against differential was removed.
3. The Carlton Blues (AFL 2002)
Having had relatively minor breaches of the salary cap in 1994, 1999 and 2001 resulting in varying penalties ranging from $40,000 to $120,000 (and exclusion from the 2000 preseason draft), it was something of a surprise to no one when the Blues were caught red handed in 2002 having paid at least 4 players (Craig Bradley, Stephen O’Reilly, Stephen Silvagni and Fraser Brown), and up to 7 players under the table in previous years.
The AFL commission fined the Carlton football Club $930,000 including $872,424 for current breaches and a further $57,526 remaining from suspended sentences from breaches in 1999. In addition, the club was denied its first two selections in the 2002 National draft, as well as their second and third draft picks – their first pick would be at 45. Further the Blues were penalised the first and second round picks in the 2003 draft, and the 2002 Preseason draft
4. Canterbury Bulldogs (NRL 2002)
The Bulldogs were stripped of points and fined after the National Rugby League found them guilty of systematic breaches of the salary cap totally more than $1 million of the 2001-2002 period.
In response, the league hit back hard, fining the club $500,000 and stripping them of the 37 competition points they’d earned in 2002, relegating them to the bottom of the league ladder with 3 rounds to go, effectively ending the clubs season.
5. The Melbourne Demons (AFL 1999)
In 1999, Melbourne President Joseph Gutnick volunteered information to the Australian Football league that showed salary cap breaches totalling $810,000 between 1995 and 1998.
The League proceeded to fine the club $600,000 (of which $250,000 was suspended), and the club lost its 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks at the national draft for two years.
6. The Adelaide Crows (AFL 2012)
Allegations surfaced in 2012 that Kurt Tippett and the Adelaide Football Club had a secret arrangement that may have involved an extra $200,000 payment and the promise to trade him wherever he wanted to go. An AFL investigation allegedly found draft tampering, salary cap breaches and implicated the club, senior officials and Kurt Tippet, as well as club sponsor, Balfours.
Adelaide was fined $300,000 and prohibited from the first two rounds of the 2013 draft – something they offered voluntarily early on – and from gaining father-son picks at that draft, however the club could trade back in to the early rounds. Steven Trigg was fined $50,000 and given 12 months suspension, John Reid was given a similar 12 months suspension, and Phil Harper was suspended for 2 months. Kurt Tippertt recieved an 11 match suspension and was not permitted to play in the preseason.
7. The Essendon Bombers (AFL 1996)
In 1996, a joint investigation between the Australian Football League and the Australian Tax Office into Essendons finances found that the club had breached the salary cap by more than $514,000 between 1991 and 1996. The investigation apparently started when the AFL was notified of the existence of a document showing that Mark Harvey had received more than $30,000 in incentives outside of his official contract in 1997.
The Bombers were fined $388,000 for both salary cap breaches and draft tampering and hit with a further $250,000 in back taxes by the ATO. The AFL also stripped Essendon of their first two picks in the 1999 national draft and froze them out of the pre-season and rookie drafts entirely.
With the penalties handed down to Parramatta in the National Rugby League earlier this year, I’ve laid out a ranking of the top penalties for salary cap breaches in Australian sport.
1. The Melbourne Storm (NRL 2010)
Unquestionably the king of salary cap penalties, the Melbourne Storm were heavily penalised after the National Rugby League uncovered breaches estimated to be in excess of $1.7million over five years, around $400,000 in 2009 and with a projected breach of $700,000 in 2010. The League also found that the Storm had kept a dual contract system, as well as secret side letters detailing extra payments that were apparently found in the safe of the clubs chief executive.
The Club was stripped of its 2008 and 2009 premierships (these were not awarded to the opposition clubs either), prevented from earning any competition points in 2010, forced to repay 1.1 million in prize money and fined another $500,000.
2. Parramatta Eels (NRL 2016)
In March 2016, it was revealed that the Eels had openly been discussing ways to avoid to subvert the salary cap at board level, prompting a full investigation by the National Rugby League, which later found the club had engaged in systematic cheating of the cap by offering additional payments totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars to players and securing secret third party payments.
The Club was penalised the maximum fine of $1,000,000 (the NRL had earlier offered to suspend $250,000 of the fine, but that changed when it was revealed that planning to undermine the cap had continued up until February this year), stripped of 12 competition points, stripped of its Auckland Nines win at the start of the year, and five officials were deregistered by the league. In addition, the clubs favourable points for and against differential was removed.
3. The Carlton Blues (AFL 2002)
Having had relatively minor breaches of the salary cap in 1994, 1999 and 2001 resulting in varying penalties ranging from $40,000 to $120,000 (and exclusion from the 2000 preseason draft), it was something of a surprise to no one when the Blues were caught red handed in 2002 having paid at least 4 players (Craig Bradley, Stephen O’Reilly, Stephen Silvagni and Fraser Brown), and up to 7 players under the table in previous years.
The AFL commission fined the Carlton football Club $930,000 including $872,424 for current breaches and a further $57,526 remaining from suspended sentences from breaches in 1999. In addition, the club was denied its first two selections in the 2002 National draft, as well as their second and third draft picks – their first pick would be at 45. Further the Blues were penalised the first and second round picks in the 2003 draft, and the 2002 Preseason draft
4. Canterbury Bulldogs (NRL 2002)
The Bulldogs were stripped of points and fined after the National Rugby League found them guilty of systematic breaches of the salary cap totally more than $1 million of the 2001-2002 period.
In response, the league hit back hard, fining the club $500,000 and stripping them of the 37 competition points they’d earned in 2002, relegating them to the bottom of the league ladder with 3 rounds to go, effectively ending the clubs season.
5. The Melbourne Demons (AFL 1999)
In 1999, Melbourne President Joseph Gutnick volunteered information to the Australian Football league that showed salary cap breaches totalling $810,000 between 1995 and 1998.
The League proceeded to fine the club $600,000 (of which $250,000 was suspended), and the club lost its 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks at the national draft for two years.
6. The Adelaide Crows (AFL 2012)
Allegations surfaced in 2012 that Kurt Tippett and the Adelaide Football Club had a secret arrangement that may have involved an extra $200,000 payment and the promise to trade him wherever he wanted to go. An AFL investigation allegedly found draft tampering, salary cap breaches and implicated the club, senior officials and Kurt Tippet, as well as club sponsor, Balfours.
Adelaide was fined $300,000 and prohibited from the first two rounds of the 2013 draft – something they offered voluntarily early on – and from gaining father-son picks at that draft, however the club could trade back in to the early rounds. Steven Trigg was fined $50,000 and given 12 months suspension, John Reid was given a similar 12 months suspension, and Phil Harper was suspended for 2 months. Kurt Tippertt recieved an 11 match suspension and was not permitted to play in the preseason.
7. The Essendon Bombers (AFL 1996)
In 1996, a joint investigation between the Australian Football League and the Australian Tax Office into Essendons finances found that the club had breached the salary cap by more than $514,000 between 1991 and 1996. The investigation apparently started when the AFL was notified of the existence of a document showing that Mark Harvey had received more than $30,000 in incentives outside of his official contract in 1997.
The Bombers were fined $388,000 for both salary cap breaches and draft tampering and hit with a further $250,000 in back taxes by the ATO. The AFL also stripped Essendon of their first two picks in the 1999 national draft and froze them out of the pre-season and rookie drafts entirely.
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