Brisbane Stadium - Victoria Park

[Fred]

Will be interesting to see - I think you may be right re: opening and closing events at Suncorp - although if the new, bigger and better stadium is available you'd think they would use that - but who knows what will happen.

[azif]

Will be interesting to see - I think you may be right re: opening and closing events at Suncorp - although if the new, bigger and better stadium is available you'd think they would use that - but who knows what will happen.

The city area will get the opening & closing ceremonies , it was supposed to get it all until the Gabba was deemed unsuitable to host the athletics & they needed a venue for the ceremonies, so Suncorp was chosen so the city centre would get some of the action.
If Mt Gravatt is the venue for the athletics, Suncorp gets the ceremonies.

[Fred]

If they go back to the Gabba - rebuild it - or Victoria Park is up and running? Still suncorp or back to original plan?

[azif]

If they go back to the Gabba - rebuild it - or Victoria Park is up and running? Still suncorp or back to original plan?

Gabba is not happening .... it has its expiry date stamped on it & with its small capacity of 35K its odds .......... 10,000 to 1
Victoria park , will host the ceremonies if its built , but it won't be because of the reasons listed, its a pipe dream. , odds......... 500 to 1
Suncorp , will have its capacity increased to 65K & hold the ceremonies odds .... 10 to 1

[leeroy*NRL*]

If they go back to the Gabba - rebuild it - or Victoria Park is up and running? Still suncorp or back to original plan?

Gabba is not happening .... it has its expiry date stamped on it & with its small capacity of 35K its odds .......... 10,000 to 1
Victoria park , will host the ceremonies if its built , but it won't be because of the reasons listed, its a pipe dream. , odds......... 500 to 1
Suncorp , will have its capacity increased to 65K & hold the ceremonies odds .... 10 to 1

so are you saying ??

they will Redevelop the GABBA to host track and Field and extend its lifespan

Suncorp be redeveloped to brand new spanking Stadium and host Ceremonies and Sports for Olympics

Victoria Park Will not happen due to Budget Blowout in the Billions ??

[azif]

If they go back to the Gabba - rebuild it - or Victoria Park is up and running? Still suncorp or back to original plan?

Gabba is not happening .... it has its expiry date stamped on it & with its small capacity of 35K its odds .......... 10,000 to 1
Victoria park , will host the ceremonies if its built , but it won't be because of the reasons listed, its a pipe dream. , odds......... 500 to 1
Suncorp , will have its capacity increased to 65K & hold the ceremonies odds .... 10 to 1

so are you saying ??

they will Redevelop the GABBA to host track and Field and extend its lifespan

Suncorp be redeveloped to brand new spanking Stadium and host Ceremonies and Sports for Olympics

Victoria Park Will not happen due to Budget Blowout in the Billions ??

the Gabba is finished as a sporting venue for cricket & AFL & the only role it will play in the olympics is for the cricket (t20) which will be held there. Once the games are done cricket & derpball will move to the stadium built for olympic track & field & what actually happens with the Gabba is unclear , possibly torn down for residential.. The debate is where the Olympic track & field stadium will be built , Victoria Park or Mt Gravatt
There is currently a venue at Mt Gravatt , the QE2 stadium , so there is a site there , parking etc . There is parkland & a school in prime real estate next to the CBD at Victoria park. The price tag for Victoria park is 6 billion plus & the park & school go .... utterly ridiculous IMO
Labor wanted to use the bones of QE2 & refurb it a 40K seater for track & field , that plan was howled down as not good enough. I think the site is right at Mt Gravatt ( the site is there ready to go )

, but the labor stadium plan isn't. Knock down QE2.. flatten it ... build a world class 50K seat stadium for the Olympics , & post olympics cricket & fumbelball & that will cost about 1.5 billion , Suncorp won't be a new stadium , its western side will be torn down & redone for a billion , increasing its capacity to 65K so it can host the opening & closing ceremonies , soccer & 7's rugby... right near the city centre

this is the plan that will work

[Fred]

Interesting article of the whole stadium issue.

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... toria-park

[Fred]

Interesting discussion. In ABC radio during the rain break with lions ceo and someone to. Qld cricket discussing their preference for Victoria Park - then they had the premier of qld on - was quite interesting to hear whar he said. Acknowledged preference was to use current infrastructure but also pushed hard on how Gabba is at end of life and a new stadium is needed regardless. Interestingly, no mention (that I heard as stepped into the shop) about QSAC. I’m leaning toward a Gabba rebuild but the cost of relocating the lions and the cricket is quite substantial. The premier seems a bit of a cricket lover - biting it not only upsets him that there will be no test (I think next year) in Brisbane - but that Brisbane was overlooked for the first test.

The other thing - gabba is apparently I’ll equip for disabled access - apparently there is diffulty accommodating the lions AFL wheel chair team as it is - not sure how that works for the paraolympucs and having any events at the current Gabba.

[azif]

Interesting article of the whole stadium issue.

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... toria-park

London set the bar for the type of venue the olympics need in the modern age if one has to be built , Old Wembley hosted the 1948 games ,
New Wembley wasn't suitable for track & field in 2012 because it was a proper rectangle , so they built a budget venue that was " befitting " the games & what the UK capital could afford.

Brisbane agreed to host the games , but made it abundantly clear to the IOC & AOC they would not be splashing out & would put on the best games they could on a tight budget.
Because the Gabba is now not an option , Brisbane ... has to.. build or renovate a venue for the track & field for the 2032 games , but the same as London , must keep in mind times are hard for Qlders atm , & venues that will cost 6 billion plus are simply not an option.

All these articles about pie in the sky vanity projects like stadiums at Victoria park need to address realities a bit more & stop pushing agendas ....

[azif]

Interesting discussion. In ABC radio during the rain break with lions ceo and someone to. Qld cricket discussing their preference for Victoria Park - then they had the premier of qld on - was quite interesting to hear whar he said. Acknowledged preference was to use current infrastructure but also pushed hard on how Gabba is at end of life and a new stadium is needed regardless. Interestingly, no mention (that I heard as stepped into the shop) about QSAC. I’m leaning toward a Gabba rebuild but the cost of relocating the lions and the cricket is quite substantial. The premier seems a bit of a cricket lover - biting it not only upsets him that there will be no test (I think next year) in Brisbane - but that Brisbane was overlooked for the first test.

The other thing - gabba is apparently I’ll equip for disabled access - apparently there is diffulty accommodating the lions AFL wheel chair team as it is - not sure how that works for the paraolympucs and having any events at the current Gabba.

Again fwed, they're not building a venue for the games , & a new gabba
not happening , too expensive

It'll be two birds one stone

no one cares what the CEO of the wions wants or even cricket for that matter either , they'll go where its economical to build this new venue ,

The QLD Govt will not build a 6 billion dollar plus venue at victoria park or anywhere else for that matter, they have a budget to run these games just like labor did
this posturing 100 day review is just that ..... posturing

[Fred]

I think the thing you’re missing maybe is that the Gabba is past its use by date (or close to it). So a new stadium is needed regardless sooner moreso than later - what’s London didn’t need one. I think the premier made that very clear in in the interview when discussing his want to stick to the 90per cent existing I frastrucure up against needing a new stadium at some point not too far down the track.

So if the point of view is no new stadium is needed - then you stick with the plan for Mount Gravatt - which seems to have been largely ruled out - but given past decisions - who knows

But if iit is decided that a new stadium is needed (and Gabba is heading to its end if use date) then where is it going to - again - Mount Gravatt seems to have been largely ruled out.

There’s your choices.

[azif]

I think the thing you’re missing maybe is that the Gabba is past its use by date (or close to it). So a new stadium is needed regardless sooner moreso than later - what’s London didn’t need one. I think the premier made that very clear in in the interview when discussing his want to stick to the 90per cent existing I frastrucure up against needing a new stadium at some point not too far down the track.

So if the point of view is no new stadium is needed - then you stick with the plan for Mount Gravatt - which seems to have been largely ruled out - but given past decisions - who knows

But if iit is decided that a new stadium is needed (and Gabba is heading to its end if use date) then where is it going to - again - Mount Gravatt seems to have been largely ruled out.

There’s your choices.

garbage
its fine for another 8 years

no one is building 2 oval stadiums in Brisbane ... with one costing over a billion for the olympics & essentially ... obsolete afterwards
& another costing even more , for cricket & a minor sport for 20 events a year.

not happening
I haven't seen anything as absurd for a very long time fwed

[Fred]

Who said two stadiums ? The Gabba til the Olympics - talk was to have the T20 Olympic cricket there - then cricket Australia would move into Victoria park (that is there preference) - lions to also move into Victoria park once it is build - Victoria park will take several years to build. So not sure where the two stadiums is coming from? Mount Gravatt isn’t even being discussed - not even by the premier. It’s either a Gabba rebuild (which will require relocating both cricket and lions whilst it gets built (as per original plans) or a new stadium elsewhere. But there will be a new stadium either way.

[Fred]

Here’s the interview I was listening to today

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/ ... ent_shared



And relistening to that - it seemed clear as day that the premier does not want Mount Gravatt - so it’s either a new stadium (which want bs at Mount Gravatt ) or a rebuilt Gabba.

The only other option I could think of is a partial rebuild of the Gabba - the pull one half of the stands down and commit to doing the second half after the Olympics ???

[azif]

Here’s the interview I was listening to today

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/ ... ent_shared



And relistening to that - it seemed clear as day that the premier does not want Mount Gravatt - so it’s either a new stadium (which want bs at Mount Gravatt ) or a rebuilt Gabba.

The only other option I could think of is a partial rebuild of the Gabba - the pull one half of the stands down and commit to doing the second half after the Olympics ???

you're getting dumber by the day fwed
it won't be either or
the gabba cannot be used for the olympics , it simply ... cannot.... & it will not be rebuilt into anything , Brisbane will not have 2 oval venues , & there won't be a single penny spent on the Gabba from here on ...
The premier is not a dictator , he leads a govt of ministers & members from across QLD , his opinion holds weight obviously but he may not get his way either , & when he checks in with the treasurer & asks what can we afford for stadiums ( thats ALL stadiums for the next 50 years ) .... & he says 3 billion MAX!!

& the clowns in this review come back with Victoria park as the site & a bill of ... 6 billion plus .... .... .....
guess what fwed
guess what