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Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:36 pm
by Cracker
Pace of a game is not something that I would be comparing when it comes to AFL and rugby league because it's like comparing apples and oranges. At different points one game is faster than the other, but one sport does not dominate the other. Ball movement I think rugby league wins because of the pace of the ball in the air when thrown. Player movement I think AFL wins because the expanse of movement required is a lot larger and one has to get there quicker. That's not to understate the pace of NRL players when they get space and are charging for the line, but it doesn't happen as often in a rugby league game as it does in an AFL game.

There are too many variables on both sides, so a comparison of pace is a pointless exercise.

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:39 pm
by King-Eliagh
In terms of athletes and their speed and strength the NRL dominates the AFL. This is an exercise we can easily measure. I'm finding it amusing the AFL supporters are happy to suggest AFL players are just as strong and fast but cannot provide the links to prove it. :D

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:41 pm
by Swans4ever
King-Eliagh wrote:
True aflcrap. This is also supported by the apparent ease with which players of other codes can make the top level of the code. Taigh Kennelly played gaelic footy for peanuts then came to the swans and became one of the clubs marquee players in no time, helping them win the 05 GF. Pyke is a former pro RU player, he is now also one of the swans marquee players and gave most of the AFL a marking lesson last year. Khunts wobbling round playing each week up their on the GC, folou, like khunt impressed so many AFL experts.

Then there's me. I found the transition fairly easy too, albeit at a much lower level than AFL and NRL. But I was quickly up to standard and able to make opposing players, who'd played all their life, look pretty silly. It's gods honest truth im telling here guys. I known it sounds bad but I can only tell it how it is. It just doesn't happen the other way round neither. The evidence is so so so ... .... .... .... so so so . ... so so stacked against marngrook on this one... Sorry. :)
Hahahahaha.......KE ur killing me stop please stop, haven't laughed so much for ages! So what did you do after exploring deepest darkest Africa and going to the deepest depths of the ocean after bring the first Australian in space? Mate get a grip unless you can tell us who you are how could we EVER verify your so called dominance, what a joker!

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:45 pm
by Cracker
King-Eliagh wrote:
In terms of athletes and their speed and strength the NRL dominates the AFL. This is an exercise we can easily measure. I'm finding it amusing the AFL supporters are happy to suggest AFL players are just as strong and fast but cannot provide the links to prove it. :D
Strength is NRL's forte. There's no doubt about that. Speed however is another matter as I previously explained.

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:50 pm
by Swans4ever
Cracker wrote:
King-Eliagh wrote:
In terms of athletes and their speed and strength the NRL dominates the AFL. This is an exercise we can easily measure. I'm finding it amusing the AFL supporters are happy to suggest AFL players are just as strong and fast but cannot provide the links to prove it. :D
Strength is NRL's forte. There's no doubt about that. Speed however is another matter as I previously explained.
No dispute there Cracker

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:52 pm
by King-Eliagh
Cracker wrote:
King-Eliagh wrote:
In terms of athletes and their speed and strength the NRL dominates the AFL. This is an exercise we can easily measure. I'm finding it amusing the AFL supporters are happy to suggest AFL players are just as strong and fast but cannot provide the links to prove it. :D
Strength is NRL's forte. There's no doubt about that. Speed however is another matter as I previously explained.
Please provide links then to the fastest men in the AFL and we can then compare which sport produces the faster athletes :D

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:58 pm
by Cracker
I already told you that comparing the pace of the two games is impossible. Individual speedsters are therefore irrelevant. Anyway, I wasn't putting AFL ahead of NRL on that. I put them as even in general. Maybe an NRL player might cover 100 metres faster than any AFL player. So what? It doesn't prove anything about the general pace of the game.

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:59 pm
by King-Eliagh
Swans4ever wrote:
King-Eliagh wrote:
True aflcrap. This is also supported by the apparent ease with which players of other codes can make the top level of the code. Taigh Kennelly played gaelic footy for peanuts then came to the swans and became one of the clubs marquee players in no time, helping them win the 05 GF. Pyke is a former pro RU player, he is now also one of the swans marquee players and gave most of the AFL a marking lesson last year. Khunts wobbling round playing each week up their on the GC, folou, like khunt impressed so many AFL experts.

Then there's me. I found the transition fairly easy too, albeit at a much lower level than AFL and NRL. But I was quickly up to standard and able to make opposing players, who'd played all their life, look pretty silly. It's gods honest truth im telling here guys. I known it sounds bad but I can only tell it how it is. It just doesn't happen the other way round neither. The evidence is so so so ... .... .... .... so so so . ... so so stacked against marngrook on this one... Sorry. :)
Hahahahaha.......KE ur killing me stop please stop, haven't laughed so much for ages! So what did you do after exploring deepest darkest Africa and going to the deepest depths of the ocean after bring the first Australian in space? Mate get a grip unless you can tell us who you are how could we EVER verify your so called dominance, what a joker!
When I played against Paris in the Netherlands I was up against this bloke from perth. Chased him down and smashed him a few times. I think he probably thought, he's speedy and where'd he learn to hit so hard. I woulda answered, RL my friend, RL. :D

Lemme remind you we're on a website here swines. People like yourself have stuipidly suggested I tell them who I am to "prove it". I could give you the name of USYD's best first div player and pretend that's me. But I wouldn't bother lying on here, there's no point. You can take it or leave it chump, I don't give two shits either way really. Look I know im a touch brash but the fact is I made the transition very easily and very quickly got to a standard where other players were amazed id only been playing a short period of time. I put it down to RL and RU, as well as my bball skills. I think if I had of started in marngrook and tried the other way round I would've failed abysmally.

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:00 pm
by King-Eliagh
Cracker wrote:
I already told you that comparing the pace of the two games is impossible. Individual speedsters are therefore irrelevant. Anyway, I wasn't putting AFL ahead of NRL on that. I put them as even in general. Maybe an NRL player might cover 100 metres faster than any AFL player. So what? It doesn't prove anything about the general pace of the game.
I'm talking more about the athletes involved, as per the title of this thread. NRL produces faster and stronger athletes.

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:04 pm
by Cracker
Stronger, yes, Faster, debatable in terms of the entire playing lists of both codes.

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:07 pm
by Xman
Cracker wrote:
Stronger, yes, Faster, debatable in terms of the entire playing lists of both codes.
Agree. In fact on average I'd say the AFL given some of the NRL forwards would be luck to get up a decent running pace at all.

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:07 pm
by King-Eliagh
Well lets not get all technical here, otherwise you'll contradict yourself again by starting to compare apples with oranges. RL forwards are not always built for speed. Though I reckon in his early 20s Nathan hindmarsh would of outsprinted most AFL players.

No lets keep this to the point. One code produces the fastest athletes. That code is RL.

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:10 pm
by Xman
King-Eliagh wrote:
Well lets not get all technical here, otherwise you'll contradict yourself again by starting to compare apples with oranges. RL forwards are not always built for speed. Though I reckon in his early 20s Nathan hindmarsh would of outsprinted most AFL players.

No lets keep this to the point. One code produces the fastest athletes. That code is RL.
That's the point. A fair proportion of an NRL team is not there for their speed, where as speed is useful in every AFL position

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:20 pm
by King-Eliagh
A fair proportion? Ambiguous as ever Xman, be concise for once in your life dammit! And don't suggest speed is not useful in every RL position aswell [-X As deceitful as ever there Xman. [-X

Re: The Reality of Fumble Athletes.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:23 pm
by Xman
King-Eliagh wrote:
A fair proportion? Ambiguous as ever Xman, be concise for once in your life dammit! And don't suggest speed is not useful in every RL position aswell [-X As deceitful as ever there Xman. [-X
Generally speaking im right and if you knew anything about AR's youd know agree