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That's after the shit hit the fan & the fumbleball spin machine has time to go into DAMAGE CONTROL.
& with a very compliant media things are smoothed over quickly..
JUST LIKE EDDIE..
NO its not racist,Its not so bad .Move along ,nothing to see here

AFLcrap1 wrote:

That's after the shit hit the fan & the fumbleball spin machine has time to go into DAMAGE CONTROL.
& with a very compliant media things are smoothed over quickly..
JUST LIKE EDDIE..
NO its not racist,Its not so bad .Move along ,nothing to see here

What are you basing this on? One year where instead of players picked up in the national draft they were taken in the where Mifsud showed:

Only four indigenous players were taken in last Thursday night's national draft. However,
Mifsud said the 2012 indigenous intake would likely exceed the yearly average when the pre-selected indigenous players, such as Port Adelaide's Jake Neade and Demon Dom Barry, and the top pick in the mini-draft, Jack Martin, were included in the tally.

So what are you basing this "one white parent" theory on? The drafting doesn't show it. Neither do Rendell's comments given his explanation and the role of the person he was talking to.

Youve got nothing.

Xman wrote:

AFLcrap1 wrote:

That's after the shit hit the fan & the fumbleball spin machine has time to go into DAMAGE CONTROL.
& with a very compliant media things are smoothed over quickly..
JUST LIKE EDDIE..
NO its not racist,Its not so bad .Move along ,nothing to see here

What are you basing this on? One year where instead of players picked up in the national draft they were taken in the where Mifsud showed:

Only four indigenous players were taken in last Thursday night's national draft. However,
Mifsud said the 2012 indigenous intake would likely exceed the yearly average when the pre-selected indigenous players, such as Port Adelaide's Jake Neade and Demon Dom Barry, and the top pick in the mini-draft, Jack Martin, were included in the tally.

So what are you basing this "one white parent" theory on? The drafting doesn't show it. Neither do Rendell's comments given his explanation and the role of the person he was talking to.

Youve got nothing.

Yes I do ..this.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/AFL/a ... 6301482027


ADELAIDE'S national recruiting manager Matt Rendell has quit after he was identified to the AFL as the recruiting chief who claimed he would not draft an Aboriginal player unless he had one white parent.
That does me for proof.
Not the AFL spin story after a few days of DAMAGE CONTROL.

Vlad must love dumb fans ..& there are plenty
So fucking gullible .
Tell them any story & you all nod & say ahhhh that's the REAL story,

Say What you want about RL ,but our Dirty laundry gets aired & we cop it sweet.
No spin ,no compliant media.

Man, you are so hung up about the AFL. Get over it for goodness sake. Does this occupy your whole day. Get some counseling ... Seriously, it is as if you take all this personally. This hatred you have is rating you. No one gives a crap really. We come on here for a boy of a laugh and banter which sometimes gets a little personal but generally most of us should be able to catch up and have a beer and a laugh. If someone is annoying you so much that it is making your experience less enjoyable , block them. I am nearly at the point of leaving this forum as others have recently as it's not fun anymore to be honest.

AFLcrap1 wrote:

Xman wrote:

AFLcrap1 wrote:

That's after the shit hit the fan & the fumbleball spin machine has time to go into DAMAGE CONTROL.
& with a very compliant media things are smoothed over quickly..
JUST LIKE EDDIE..
NO its not racist,Its not so bad .Move along ,nothing to see here

What are you basing this on? One year where instead of players picked up in the national draft they were taken in the where Mifsud showed:

Only four indigenous players were taken in last Thursday night's national draft. However,
Mifsud said the 2012 indigenous intake would likely exceed the yearly average when the pre-selected indigenous players, such as Port Adelaide's Jake Neade and Demon Dom Barry, and the top pick in the mini-draft, Jack Martin, were included in the tally.

So what are you basing this "one white parent" theory on? The drafting doesn't show it. Neither do Rendell's comments given his explanation and the role of the person he was talking to.

Youve got nothing.

Yes I do ..this.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/AFL/a ... 6301482027


ADELAIDE'S national recruiting manager Matt Rendell has quit after he was identified to the AFL as the recruiting chief who claimed he would not draft an Aboriginal player unless he had one white parent.
That does me for proof.
Not the AFL spin story after a few days of DAMAGE CONTROL.

Vlad must love dumb fans ..& there are plenty
So fucking gullible .
Tell them any story & you all nod & say ahhhh that's the REAL story,

Say What you want about RL ,but our Dirty laundry gets aired & we cop it sweet.
No spin ,no compliant media.

Except this claim is rubbish! Rendell never said he operated this way. He never did operate this way. Rendell worked at Adelaide where some of the countries best indigenous players were playing when Rendell was recruiter. No AFL recruiters operate this way. The proof is there in the way they recruit, which compared to 20 years ago is far more inclusive of indigenous Australians.

Your evidence is a misunderstood quote Rendell said to an indigenous AFL official.

You're just too biased to see how stupid your baseless claim is.

Jesus.
Yes misunderstood.
Why then did he lose his job?

AFLcrap1 wrote:

Jesus.
Yes misunderstood.
Why then did he lose his job?

Well for starters he resigned. His comment, even though it was made in a conversation to an AFL official about concerns he had FOR indigenous players, caused a huge controversy and damage to his clubs brand.

You still haven't answered this question. Why would he make this comment to an indigenous AFL official whose job it is to promote and protect indigenous players?

King-Eliagh wrote:

Spent lotsa time in Alice. Awesome place. I learnt much of my marngrook skills off the local youngsters, even though I was their coach. The little fellas also taught me new bball skills even though I'd been playing bball for 10 years.

First part is BS and I refuse to believe it because you don't know how TOUGH AFL is. And you don't even know the meaning of the word. The second part about "bball" (I assume basketball) is a little more feasible and believable, but I doubt you got it from the local Aboriginal kids because they play AFL first up there!

Played it cwapper. Played it for numerous seasons. It's not as tough as league. Hits are less and the bodies just aren't as strong im afraid. It's just a clear area in which the two sports are different.

As for the rest yes I really enjoyed playing and coaching in Mparntwe/Alice Springs, 'twas awesome playing while seeing eagles and kites soaring in the backdrop of the Macdonnell ranges which form the Yeperenye stories of the local Arrernte mob. Just awesome. And the kids taught me heaps of 'tricks' on the field which I used when getting best on ground or in the top three performers on the field.

The kids loved bball too. They used to watch American streetball dvds and copy the moves of those dudes and use them on the court at traeger park. Was way cool. And could those lil fellas dance! Seriously, Michael jacksonesque some of em!!

Thanks for your interest cwapper.

Xman I'll say it again there's literally hundreds of folk living in the more remote communities who could easily make the AFL. Unfortunately AFLcrap is correct, there's an unwritten rule in the AFL and society at large regarding employment of Aboriginal folk from these communities. It's based on a mainstream culture bias and inflexibility to accommodate those from a vastly different culture. I'm not saying its easy but racist ''us/them'' attitudes such as those expressed in comments like

declared indigenous players generally came from more laidback families and were ''not prepared for AFL life as others

Not prepared he said...before going on to suggest there might be a need for a one white parent policy... how disgusting!

I'd suggest its the AFL who are not prepared. With employees (and fans, Xman I know you agree with that comment) make these massive negative assumptions based on race like that how could it be? The one white parent rule unfortunately imo is an unwritten rule in the AFL. Marngrook has a massive following from those in remote communities across Australia, yet the AFL as an organisation has yet to find a way to tap into this awesome market. Again not easy, but the AFL could definitely be doing more.

Phelpsy wrote:

Man, you are so hung up about the AFL. Get over it for goodness sake. Does this occupy your whole day. Get some counseling ... Seriously, it is as if you take all this personally. This hatred you have is rating you. No one gives a crap really. We come on here for a boy of a laugh and banter which sometimes gets a little personal but generally most of us should be able to catch up and have a beer and a laugh. If someone is annoying you so much that it is making your experience less enjoyable , block them. I am nearly at the point of leaving this forum as others have recently as it's not fun anymore to be honest.

Awww phelpsy, need a tissue? When you it makes me feel like



If anyone's making your experience in here less enjoyable you tell me and I'll get stuck into em for ya ok!?

King-Eliagh wrote:

Xman I'll say it again there's literally hundreds of folk living in the more remote communities who could easily make the AFL. Unfortunately AFLcrap is correct, there's an unwritten rule in the AFL and society at large regarding employment of Aboriginal folk from these communities. It's based on a mainstream culture bias and inflexibility to accommodate those from a vastly different culture. I'm not saying its easy but racist ''us/them'' attitudes such as those expressed in comments like

declared indigenous players generally came from more laidback families and were ''not prepared for AFL life as others

Not prepared he said...before going on to suggest there might be a need for a one white parent policy... how disgusting!

I'd suggest its the AFL who are not prepared. With employees (and fans, Xman I know you agree with that comment) make these massive negative assumptions based on race like that how could it be? The one white parent rule unfortunately imo is an unwritten rule in the AFL. Marngrook has a massive following from those in remote communities across Australia, yet the AFL as an organisation has yet to find a way to tap into this awesome market. Again not easy, but the AFL could definitely be doing more.

the proportion of AFL and NRL indigenous players are about the same. If your claim is true then AFL must be FAR FAR more popular amongst indigenous Australians.

Rendell's comments, to an AFL indigenous official, were out of concern that the AFL needed to do more to support the indigenous recruits regarding changes expected of them. This is the complete OPPOSITE of racism.

Rendells comments labelled all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders as ''laid back and unprepared''. This form of stereotype, often used in line with comments like ''they're lazy, don't work hard'' etc etc etc, have been common and extremely damaging during the ongoing racist process of colonisation in Australia and other countries. It's comments like these which promote the exclusion, rather than inclusion of Aboriginal people Xman ya git. Comments and beliefs such as these also provided the so called 'reason' behind policies which led to the stolen generations.

you still think these sorts of comments are ok Xman?

King-Eliagh wrote:

Rendells comments labelled all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders as ''laid back and unprepared''. This form of stereotype, often used in line with comments like ''they're lazy, don't work hard'' etc etc etc, have been common and extremely damaging during the ongoing racist process of colonisation in Australia and other countries. It's comments like these which promote the exclusion, rather than inclusion of Aboriginal people Xman ya git. Comments and beliefs such as these also provided the so called 'reason' behind policies which led to the stolen generations.

you still think these sorts of comments are ok Xman?

Sorry, you can't compare "they live a relaxed and laid back lifestyle" to "they're lazy and don't work hard".

The former is obviously a generalisation but on average is a fair evaluation of life in most remote communities compared to a bustling city where they are the centre of the medias attention. dean Rioli struggled to acclimatise when he came to essendon and he needed periodic leave to get back to his prior lifestyle to find himself again.

Rendells comments were merely his attempt to explain a problem he identified which needed addressing. He therefore confided in the AFLs multicultural officer whose role was to address such problems.

Ahhh > where did I compare the two comments in your first sentence Xman ya dumb git???? I said ''often used in line with''

Read the post and make a decent contribution for a change modbitch

The reason racism rears its ugly head time and time again is because dumb people focus on a race as having certain ''problems'' i.e. ''they're laidback and unprepared for AFL life''. This generalisation is a very damaging one xman, if you cant see this then you're a lost cause. But I think you do because I notice you seem to be learning and that you've now used the term remote communities compared with cities in terms of lifestyle rather than race. 10 points to you xman.